Why is it that most mac owners seem like this guy...

This is from Yahoo! answers:

Question: Hi, as you know the holiday season is just around the corner! For christmas I want a laptop- a good laptop. My parents think its a good idea... but I have NO CLUE what the best choice is... do I want a sleek awesome MacBookPro... or the new awesome features on the Dell Inspiron?

Answer: This isn't even a competition, MacBook Pro wins all the way!!
The Dell can't even touch the MacBook Pro! It is far more superior to the Inspiron 1520! If you have the money, get the MacBook Pro! It is very thin, light, fast, and a good gaming Mac notebook. Go get the MacBook Pro!

Could this explanation be anymore... biased?! It's uninformed, uneducated, and completely ignorant to the fact that anything but Macs even exist! He doesn't mention the DDR3 to DDR2 difference, the exact specifications of the size and shape, nor does he even mention what the HELL "fast" means! And NO, macs are not good gaming laptops, god dang it! Half the games out there don't even run on mac OS. I hate people!
(I'm not saying the mac book pro isn't better or is worse, I'm just pointing out this guy's ignorance)

/end rant

Disclaimer: I know a lot of mac owners are NOT like this guy, but I feel like people who own macs are generally less technically inclined.

 

Hmm...I generally disagree with you. That is a very Mac fanboy comment, I absolutely agree, but its not true that most Mac users are like that. Its an unfortunate stereotype, but really, most Mac users are not Mac fanboys and they listen and post logically, but are ridiculed and scorned because these select few that happen to be very vocal are the ones that people see and read about.

However, I do want to note that the MacBook Pro has a NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with DDR3, whereas the Inspiron 1520 has DDR2, so in fact, the MBP is better than the Inspiron 1520 in graphics power.

And I also do want to note that most people in the world are not technically inclined . RAM, hard drive, processor? What are those?

 

I posted that answer on Yahoo!!! I find your comments "uninformed, uneducated, and completely ignorant".

j/k

 

When people base their opinions on theses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuqZ8AqmLPY&feature=related
commercials then i would believe that a macbook pro is the best thing since *** was invented also...
macbook pro good for gaming?? haha i cant even run RCT3 on my macbook pro(using tiger)

 

i would have to agree with him. and i dont blame him for the wording he used. as sam said, had he gone into a whole thing about the in-depth specs, the poor kid that asked the question would have been confused and felt stupid.

 

I know what you mean, but it's more of a fanboy comment than anything. People generally notice the bad more than the good; everyone's going to see those kinds of annoying, ignorant posts, and ignore the more informative ones. Because of that, everyone sees "Mac Users" in that way, and it's just really too bad.

Your comment about gaming; sure, most games do not run on OS X, however, there are ways to boot up games in Windows with a Mac - Bootcamp. I'm not saying that "Macs are the best gaming systems", and if you're looking for a laptop or a desktop for purely gaming, it makes a lot of sense to just buy a Windows computer, but that does not mean that "Macs are not good gaming laptops".

 

sam i have to disagree, most mac fanboys are not very technologically inclined.

half the trainees here at work have ipods/macbooks. and when i asked them why, they said that it looks cool (or something to that effect). i just have to laugh at their stupidity.

there are some very technologically minded fanboys though. my cousin for one (who's name is sam) but on a whole, most of them are bandwagon jumping.

 

Well, yeah, most Windows users aren't either . If anything doesn't work, press the Power button. If that doesn't fix it, they panic .

Anyway, Mac fanboys, yes, but many Mac users know their stuff as well. I agree that many iPods are being bought just for the sake of looking cool in the white earbuds, but I hope that doesn't generalize the entire Apple user base.

 

Bwahahahahahahahaha. Xander I think you just got b slapped!

 

LOL!

For the record, I did not really write that on Yahoo.

 

Yeh Jeff it sucks that many people get mac products to look "cool" or fit in with the crowd. But many switch for functionality, like me. I had a dell jukebox until it bugged up after just 1.5 years of use so I turned to the iPod because I heard very good things about it and I knew there was a ton of support for it so I switched.

Unfortunately those who switch to look and be "cool" vastly outnumber those who switch for legitimate reasons.

 

Umm... yeah.

 

Exactly. Mine reason was legitmate - I wanted a pink mp3 with a scroll wheel. But really, I bought one of the early iPods - an iPod mini! I was one of the first people in my entire school to get one, and they weren't popular yet.

 

are MOST PC users not even more "computer-stupid?"

Ive seen my share, and since 90% of the world uses PCs, lets run some numbers, then talk

 

There are more windows users than there are mac users. And most people in the world are not technologically inclined as Sam stated before, so that directly implies that there are less technologically inclined people that use windows then use mac based off of proportions. Am I right?

 

I don't see a problem at all with this guy's response. Yahoo answers isn't purporting or trying to be Wikipedia. If you asked me the same question, I would probably answer with the same response. (And out of the Macs, the Macbook Pro is "good" for gaming, certainly better than my X3100 Macbook!) Are you actually going to argue with the 1" thickness, superior screen, and dimensions (lack of space wasted to borders etc)? Well you'd probably lose. No one said the Macbook Pro was a budget notebook, nor even the best bang for the buck. If you wanted a Toyota Camry, that's great. But I'd shoot myself in the foot before I buy something so hideous, and would much rather spend 50-100% more on a nice Audi or Mercedes Benz. Same idea. Don't hate people! Hate is bad...

 

My first response to this thread is that the original post is no less biased or uninformed than the answer being assaulted. It's just being a troll IMO.

Having said that, I agree that the answer was pretty fanboyish. But the fact of the matter is that everything the person said was true. So if you look at things at face value, it's wasn't like he was spreading fanboy FUD.

 

Uh, The inspiron specifically is really no comparison to a MBP, since the MBP is technically better, using DDR3 8600m GT and a more powerful processor, and better screen. I guess you can say he was sticking to the question, but it's doubtful, lol. Should he have mentioned other Dell laptops? Yeah, but he's probably not very bright in the specs area.

As for Macs not being good for gaming....... *goes and plays CoD4 on his MBP*

I think it's an uninformed stereotype that Macs suck at gaming, especially when they run windows as well as any normal PC.

 

Ugh, you mean 80% of every windows user out there. I hate it when people come on here and say Windows is better because it's used in every computer besides Macs (or people who like Linux). It's like just because more people use Windows it automatically makes it a gift descended from heaven to Bill Gates to spread to the people of the world in order to give them eternal life. While the only reason Windows is everywhere is because Microsoft licenses their OS while Apple does not. No other reason. It's seriously as simple as that

 

Thats true Arquis.

 

well i assume that you mean there are MORE less techie windows users. It also would imply that there are MORE very technology inclined windows users. This assuming that there are roughly the same amount of windows and mac users who are intelligent and we are talking purely in numbers.

 

I didn't mean to be a troll. I didn't mean to start a flame war (hence me posting in a Mac dominated part of the board). What I will say is that I find more macs users saying things like "my mac is faster and better than your pc" without knowing anything about why.

The guy who made the answer could have quite easily not known anything about either pc or mac (which I assume, because even I would have posted atleast some tech specs because they are ALWAYS good for reference). He was probably just some bandwagon Mac guy who thinks mac rules the technological age.

Again, I know not all mac users are like this. I just find that while even 75% of mac users know what they are talking about, those 25% that know nothing are much worse than pc users who know nothing.

And no, my original post was not ignorant. It was an angry rant. If you want to listen to an unbiased robot, call dell tech support . Otherwise, listen to what I have to say and respond.

 

It's actually quite unfortunate that the people who are, I guess, the elitist fanboys who stick to something for the brand name and not functionality are the ones that always stand out more, and are referenced more. Not only Mac users, but Windows users as well

 

I agree. With that this thread can die out... reps though, truly inspiring...

 

I'm very new to the mac platform so I hardly call myself a mac user, let alone a fanboy, but what's with the sweeping generalising statements? These, to me, sound very much like fan-boy talk themselves.

Most mac users I've dealt with are pretty technically inclined, some way more than me and I consider myself very technically inclined although not on the mac platform.

 

it wasn't Xander it was me! i take full responsibility.

 

Will you guys stop trying to take my credit?

That's me in my alter ego, when I'm a Mac fanboy...oh wait, shouldn't I be a Windows lover in my alter ego?!

 

No silly, a Windows fanboy.

 

How dare you, for real dude, talk about ignorance. That is so insulting. FYI I have been using Macs for over 10 years, started out on a PC and I have a degree in electronics and computer science.

You're attitude is extremely ignorant to say Mac users are not technically inclined. Usually I am pretty middle of the road here but this is one of the first times I have ever taken something so personally. You have no just cause.
What are you, some Windows user who thinks he's smarter than anyone who owns a Mac? Again, you have no just cause.

BTW most Mac users are more technically inclined that any other computer user because we have used Windows as well as the Macintosh. Most PC users have never used a Mac.

 

Have no idea if that's so, but would be inclined to think so. OTOH, nearly all Mac users I know also are quite adept at using, not to mention most own, at least one PC.

 

I pretty much agree with what little was said in this answer, even though this person doesn't mention of the good reasons why MBP is a great laptop.

Now, if only they'd compared the MBP to the XPS M1530....

 

I don't think you quite understand my post... I was saying that this guy wasn't very informative, and that most mac owners SEEM like that guy. Not that they are, but that they SEEM like him. I say most mac owners because it seems that the only ones who care to really express how great their macs are happen to be the ones who don't know crap about computers.

Don't flame for no reason, think about it before you post. Thanks.

 

Sorry about double post, but yes, at the time the inspiron and mac book pro were the "top" dell/mac laptops, but now the XPS would most likely win out just due to being more affordable, I think.

 

I actually understood your concern for the article you were talking about. Now to be fair the response most likely was not too far off base. It was an Inspiron Notebook compared to a Macbook Pro. Even PC users are not going to go far in explaining features, they would just say the Macbook Pro was better because the Inspiron is Dell's bottom of the line and the MBP is Apple's top of the line.

Now to my response to you. This is what YOU wrote,
"Disclaimer: I know a lot of mac owners are NOT like this guy, but I feel like people who own macs are generally less technically inclined."
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That's an offensive post because you were trying to get this forum to understand that the article showed ignorance from the Mac user when in fact your disclaimer shows the same ignorance and frankly it was insulting.

You are blind to the effect on what on you wrote because YOU wrote it.

 

i must say i by far prefer my MBP to anything pc out there on the market. but that said pcs have a use in this world for different uses and i accept that.


must admit im a bit of a fan boy lol

 

Well, look at the Mac commercials... they put things in a very similar way, always talking about how great and advanced Mac is comparing to PC but never give any technical infos to back up, and therefore mislead the audiences. I think those PC vs Mac commercials are very unprofessional if you ask me...

http://www.revrob.com/content/view/44/52/

 

but the ads do put across some major pluses of the mac system, i found them more inviting, when i bought my mac i viewed a lot of the ads i found them funny and actually they do give a big insight into what mac is about. as for the specs who needs 500gb hard drives anyway? my MBP suits my needs fine and i didnt alter that with bigger hard drives either

 

To the original poster. I will pray tonight that you get a life soon brother. There has to be more constructive things to do with your life then come into the Mac section and make ignorant comments that are just to start a flame war.....like clipping your toe nails.

To the moderators I like this site, I come here to get help with questions I have with Macs. I dont visit the Windows section or the Dell section and share my great dissatisfaction with both of those inferior products. I dont start flame wars. Is there a paid version of these forums so I dont have to read comments from mental giants like the OP?

 

I don't generally take articles seriously when there's typos .

Well, there are no paid versions of NotebookReview, but what I can suggest for you is to put members you have trouble with onto your Ignore List. We moderators handle each case separately, and for now, it hasn't broken into flame wars yet.

The only comment I will make is that yes, the Mac users have generally kept to their own here on NotebookReview.

 

Hehe. Honestly a lot of mac users are like this. I know that when I walk into the apple store, I usually ask the sales guys about the GPU speeds and whatnot. Man they suck.

I remember I asked him about the whole underclocking issue on the X1600 and the guy had no idea what I was talking about. Way to go guys. The genius I talked to didn't even know about it. They all told me the MBP was better than other 15"s out there lol.

I still want the NEW MBP though.

 

That is not a surprise. That is absolutely not limited to Apple either. Almost all brick-and-mortar electronics stores have employees like these, its not surprising.

 

And when I walk into the Sony store they tell me the PS3 is the best console ever made, and their TVs are the best too. lol. Every place is like that. No one is going to say "no we're not the best, you're looking for that store across the street."

 

Unfortunately there's never been a "professional" advertisement if you think about it. As a company promoting itself it's suppose to make itself look good while cutting the competition to shreds. As a company you are not suppose to play Mr. Nice guy and say great things about the competition while being careful not to say too much great about your own.
You need a class on advertising 101. Coke and Pepsi do it every day. I can BARELY remember any of the Budweiser commercials at the Superbowl because they just talk about how great it is to drink a beer. But if they were to pit themselves against Heinekin those ads would be memorable.

Good advertising is to get people to talk about them. Nice guys finish last that's why Microsoft try's to shaft the Mac community as much as possible.

 

Dude, if you ask me, the mac commercials for macs are one of the best suited commercials I have seen. The commercials couldn't be any more simpler. Short, clear and to the point, with some humor and appeal. What would you rather watch? A commercial with a fast talking salesperson talking about processor speeds and graphics card specs, or a simple commercial that takes it slow and easy and promotes the products key features in a way that everybody can understand it well.

That is what advertising is dude, and I am pretty sure that you are against this commercial because you are on the opposing side. Believe me, if they had this exact commercial for Windows you would be rooting for it. It has very good appeal to the masses and because it works you get mad... I don't blame ya, I would dislike it too.

 

It's called availability heuristics. All the humble Mac users refrain from making comments like that while the ones who do embarrass us hence why it seems like "why is it that most mac users [insert whatever here]".

 

I agree with you, Stunner. The people who take offense to these commercials or feel that they're unprofessional, are taking them too seriously, IMO. Of course they're biased ads and are meant to make Apple/Mac/OSX look superior to a PC. The goal is to sell more Macs!

BTW, for you folks who don't like the Mac/PC commercials, would you feel as strongly against them if instead of Windows the PC were using Linux? I'm beginning to like Linux a lot, and so also am enjoying my PC "experience" much more lately - probably because the wifi and sound are finally working (well, the sound is . . . audible, at least LOL).