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    iPod Touch jailbroken, now time for some apps :)

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Harper2.0, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. Harper2.0

    Harper2.0 Back from the dead?

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    so I jailbroke my iPod touch using the ziphone software last night :). Now I'm looking for some cool apps to install. Anyone have any suggestions?
     
  2. circa86

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    what exactly is the point of doing this with an iPod touch? so you can run other applications, that for some reason won't be submitted to the App store?
     
  3. Underpantman

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    I can understand the jailbraking a few months ago, but doing it yesterday when the app store is now online seems strange... in that it will be a few more weeks or longer before the v2.0 firmware is hacked, thus your going to miss-out on any of the cool legal apps on offer.
    Thus my suggestion is to have a look at the official apps store and compare whats on offer to the install.app . If there is a must have program on either one then you will have your answer.
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  4. Seshan

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    Not every app will be in the app store, you have to get accepted by apple to get apps in there. So there will still be lot's of apps not in there.
     
  5. newfiejudd

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    Exactly, I bet there will be a crap load of unofficial app sites starting up..
     
  6. Sam

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    The 500 applications in the App Store is good news...and 25% free is even better news :D. Although still, I'll have to pay $10 for the iPod Touch Software Upgrade, plus another $20 from the January one that I have yet to get in defiance :p.
     
  7. Redline

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    Haha, iPod Touch users, you guys got repeatedly ripped off by Apple. $20 an update, except they reduced it to $10 this time.

    iPhone users get for freeeeee :p
     
  8. Sam

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    Because they pay $30+ a month in carrier fees :D.
     
  9. Redline

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    Unlock it :D Carrier fees go down the drain. Of course, you don't get unlimited data, or any data at all, but still.
     
  10. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    Get the touchpad one. its really fun.
     
  11. Redline

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    Actually, the remote control app by Apple seems pretty cool, if a bit useless.
     
  12. Seshan

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    Yeah get the touchpad pro, you can control your comp with it anywhere with a wireless connection. I want a ipod touch just so I could use that.
     
  13. Underpantman

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    Time for me to eat my words. v2 software has been hacked... offical pwnage tool will be released soon.
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    Now how cool is that lol.. YOU SUCK ROGERSSSSSSSSS
     
  15. Harper2.0

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    So far I've gotten
    agile messenger, IM app.
    iPhysics, cool game.
    iCopter, another cool game.
    Air Hockey, another cool game.
    Summerboard, the theme manager. I also installed the NOS slider and battery charger.
    Domino, another cool game.
    Labyrinth, another cool game.
    Pool, :cool:
    and I installed an app that "unlocks" advanced settings.(ie % charge left on ipod, uptime, and a couple other neat features).

    And all the apps were free, even though a couple of them are only trials.
    Jailbroken iPod FTW!
     
  16. Redline

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    w00t, makes my life easier when I want to unlock my iPhone (next week).
     
  17. Sam

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    Agreed! Well, like I said before though, its not YOU SUCK ROGERS more than its YOU SUCK CANADIAN TELECOM INDUSTRY :p, because really, Canada needs more competition in the telecom industry. Since Rogers has a GSM monopoly, they charge more, knowing you have to pay or you don't have any access (and businesses need it). Any corporation with a monopoly would like to profit from it. So I don't blame Rogers in particular, since anyone in their position would do it. What we need is more companies to rise and challenge Rogers!
     
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    Actually the january update has been confirmed to be included with the 2.0 update. I guess today's your lucky day...
     
  19. Sam

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    WHAT?! Seriously?!

    Yes! That's exactly what I was expecting for when I deliberately delayed not buying iPhone January Software Upgrade :D. I was expecting for Apple to pull something like "Get your iPod Touch Up To Date for only $20" or something :p.
     
  20. Redline

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    Haha, not just Canadian telecoms. The whole North American telecom industry is ****, US is nearly as bad as Canada, except not quiiiiiiite as monopolistic as Rogers. Why can't they be even half as good as European/Asian telecom industry? Ugh.
     
  21. Sam

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    Yeah, North America in general is pretty behind in a lot of technology sectors. The Sony Ericsson W910i I have right now, I bought half a year ago in Hong Kong (awesome city) and still hasn't even been announced for North America yet. Not that its going to be an important announcement anymore, because its part of "older generation" of cell phones, now, the ones with physical keypads and small screens :D.
     
  22. Sam

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    Yeah, I just looked at some Apple official documents, and they're included! Awesomeness! :)
     
  23. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    Eh. I got the January update. It was worth it.
     
  24. circa86

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    yeah I think it is really going to be Japan that is the true test of the iPhone, there are such a large amount of feature filled phones there, but there really isn't anything at all like an iPhone. but this is the first iPhone for Japan, and 3G and GPS really don't mean much to most users there, as it has all been available for such a long time. It will really come down to the overall functionality and experience the phone offers.

    and as far as jailbreaking goes, again I will never understand, like everyone has mentioned, why do you want to go to so much effort and lose awesome functionality, just to bend over for another Telecom company?

    and when it comes to the iPod touch I really don't understand it, well now I can run all of these awesome free apps, yeah, there are so many available for that unlocked device huh? if those free apps are at all worth while, there is no reason Apple would restrict them from being in the app store.
     
  25. Redline

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    One, its not that much effort, if you know what you are doing. Two, uhh, bending over to another telecom company (in my case T Mob) means I save $30 a month (since I don't need a data plan) over a two year period, which is what, 24x30 = $720. Significant. Also, AT&T family plans are significantly more expensive than the TMobile one we have from Costco, so tack another $20 on there a month. 24 months x $50 additional a month and we have.....$1200 dollars saved over two years. Excellent.

    As for losing functionality, uhh, Firmware 2.0 has been royally pwnt, so theres not really any functionality lost.

    So essentially, its an hour or less worth of work for $1200. Worth it? In my case, at least, I think so.
     
  26. sulkorp

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    Not every phone that gets released, ends up coming to NA, a lot of them don't. But yea, there are a fair amount of "big" phones that don't end up coming here, or take a while to come here.

    And Circa, while Japan does have a lot of features on their phones, you gotta admit that most of them look like crap. A lot of them are pretty much generic/they all look alike. Now they do have a lot of people, and a lot of people who just buy a phone for being a phone, so I guess thats why they sell. And if everyone phone on the block has email, web browsing, barcode scanning, 1seg, etc, then I guess a generic phone will do. And the japanese Joe Schmo doesn't have to be a tech person to use all these features.

    But I'd hope that the iphone will do well there, its a big market, and as much as the japanese like gadgets, theres also a lotta people who buy domestic devices. And with a few hundred million, that adds up to a lotta domestic sales.

    But back on track with the ipod touch ^^;;, personally atm I wouldn't get one. Working on sets, and on location, you don't always have access to wireless, so I wouldn't be able to get email and stuff when it comes. With the iphone, you can get it wherever, whenever. Though once school rolls around again, wireless is everywhere, but i already have my laptop.
     
  27. Harper2.0

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    circa - jailbreaking does not make the phone lose functionality, but adds flexibility. you can add a lot of software that people have created and released for free. I'm not sure if you can buy a data plan with t-mobile of not, but if you can then you can save a bit on your monthly bill.
     
  28. newfiejudd

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    How terrible is that. You have to pay to upgrade your firmware to BUY more apps. I must admit that is a bit much. Thank god it's unlocked and should be able to be downloaded soon enough.

    Better yet check out this site.

    http://pownce.com/neasteflorin/notes/2737229/

    Read closer to the bottom of the page.
     
  29. Sam

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    I'll just clarify though, the application pricing is not Apple's decision, but each third party developer decides what it wants to charge for it. Many decided to make their application available free :).
     
  30. fsucesar

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    but apple charged them for the kit to use to make the applications...so they are going to want to make their money back by charging the 6.99 or whatnot for their apps...let me know if im wrong...
     
  31. Sam

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    That is the same for any platform...SDKs cost money, yes. Some distribute it for free because it brings them more popularity for other products (for example, if Mozilla released Firefox for free but charged for Thunderbird, the people who downloaded Firefox may consider paying for Thunderbird (just clarifying though, Thunderbird is also free).
     
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    so will you be upgrading to 2.0 sam?
     
  33. Sam

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    Absolutely! I liked January Software Upgrade, I just refused to purchase because Apple was being ridiculous with $20. I predicted that Apple would throw in some sort of "Get your iPod Touch up to date" sort of promotion when 2.0 came around, and I was right! $10 for the January plus access to App store (I'm probably only getting free apps though), yes I'm getting it!
     
  34. Redline

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    Apple activation servers == FAIIIIIL hahaha.

    So how many of you lot bricked your iPhones trying to get 2.0 from iTunes?
     
  35. Sam

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    I can't even update my iPod Touch yet :p. Apple fiasco!
     
  36. Patrick

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    Downloading the new iTunes, but for some reason apple software updater's in spanish...
     
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    As anyone who has jailbroken either a Touch or iPhone will be able to tell you we have had an appstore from the moment the jailbreak was complete. Its called Installer and I didn't need Apples permission to use it. I also don't like the idea that Apple, as with any corporate has a certain interest in not allowing certain types of software onto their Appstore. This may include software which happens to incorporate ideas that Apple would want to sell in later products, or if your Touch user would incorporate into later firmware to rip you off even more. Therefore certain apps won't show up on the Appstore for Jailed devices simply because it conflicts with Apples plans and profits.

    Circa as for your comment on losing 'awesome functionality' you should try out both a Jailed and Jailbroken iPhone before commenting on the functionality aspect of the devices. There is simply no comparison, the 'awesome functionality' only arrives when you jailbreak it. I simply can't fathom someone making such a comment without owning the devices themselves. It takes 5 minutes and can be undone in the same time with virtually no risks of bricking the devices. Do you work for Apple by any chance?. If so you should get them to give you a free iPhone 3G :)
     
  39. plasma.

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    woah, i just found this thread lol. haha noones can beat me in jailbreaking ipod touches, i have (counts) 89 apps, almost 1000 things to download left in installer/cydia, applied theappletrees badgeblueglassrim theme which took about an hour..... (stupid ssh) and the most awesomemost other.artwork ever.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    at circa86,

    pfft, jailbreaking is absolutely awesome and you lose no functionality at all! infact, now i cant live without playing grand theft auto 2 on the bus, chatting on msn, controlling my pc with touchpad pro, calling with VOip, banging on the drums sometimes, and even going on the internets on the one device
     
  41. Lysander

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    Might I ask why threads detailing unlocking the iPhone/iPod Touch (breaking Apples EULA and possibly the DMCA) are allowed, whilst threads detailing running OS X on non-Apple hardware (breaking the EULA) are not?
     
  42. plasma.

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    psst, copy down that 2.0 firmware link, its illegal
     
  43. Sam

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    May I ask you to bring that to Chaz instead of complaining here. I've said it before, its not my decision and nor will this be seen by Chaz unless you bring it up directly to him.
     
  44. Redline

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    I was actually wondering about that too, not that it bothers me (I am planning on jailbreaking my iPhone), but just the almost arbitrary nature of upholding the rule is somewhat interesting.

    Somehow, it seems worse to post about OS x86 than it is to post about jailbreaking iPods though, so I'm not sure.
     
  45. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Yeah, I'm still just angry that I got banned for linking to an OSX86 website, when this is obviously just as "illegal", and is allowed unchecked.
     
  46. zambie

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    so what would u rather have lysander..? ... just because of a past incident (as unfair as it may seem), you want every one elses toys taken away.. that's very kiddish and somewhat of vengeful isn't it? ...

    can someone also throw light upon whether jailbreaking the ipod touch (not the iphone) is illegal? ... as far as my reasoning goes .. it's not.. the iphone i can understand... but the ipod touch? ...
     
  47. plasma.

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    omg.......

    jailbreaking an ipod touch is NOT ILLEGAL!

    at best, it voids the warranty. that is, if your stupid enough to send a jailbroken ipod with all ur apps in to apple. you can delete all traces of jailbrake on your touch BY RESTORING. you cannot brick ur touch, unless you UNPLUG you ipod during the pwnage/ziphone process and then pour coffee all over it, and then throw it onto very hard concrete. it isnt illegal. stop jabbering about it. it doesnt even say anything about it in the customer terms and conditions either.
     
  48. Lysander

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    Although it hasn't been tested in court (like the EULA) some say that jailbreaking does infact violate the US' DMCA. Because you're allowing unauthorised software to run on it.

    No no no, I don't want to spoil anybodies fun. I just want to know exactly which "illegal" activities are and are not allowed to be discussed.
     
  49. Harper2.0

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    Many people release their own software for installer, just as they do in the app store. The only "illegal" part is obtaining software for free that you would otherwise have to pay for, and discussion of that is not allowed.
     
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    ^Indeed. Pwning your iPhone/iPod Touch is not illegal.
     
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