rMBP 2014 any news?

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Any news of upgraded hardware? Maybe a maxwell GPU?

 

The news will happen when Apple announces it. Anything you read now is pure speculation, typically wrong, and not worth discussing. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but this is the way Apple has operated for years.

 

Yeah, but there have been a update cyclus every 3/4 year. Mid 2012, Early 2013, Late 2013, so that would make the next mid 2014 (and the WWDC2014 appears to be in June)

 

At this point the only thing to upgrade would be the graphics card to an Nvidia 800 series. The next generation intel processors have been delayed into next year, so short of making them a couple hundred megahertz faster, there won't be much of a change.

 

It doesn't matter. As previously stated, anything you read now would be speculation. Nothing is official until Apple announces it. Apple also doesn't have to stick to a 3/4 year upgrade cycle. They haven't done that for all of their MacBook revisions and they certainly didn't stick to their last update cycles for the iPhone, iPad, and iPod lines.

 

Will the Nvidia 800 series be a significant improvement over the GT 750? Wondering if I should wait or just grab one right now.

 

You can always check out benchmarks of Windows notebooks to see how they compare. Regardless, if it's for gaming, a MacBook is not what you want.


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Bull. A MBP can compete with any mainstream PC of it's current vintage in games as long as it has a dedicated GPU, especially if you install Windows. It isn't a 9lb SLI monster with a desktop CPU, but if you are considering something like a Razer Blade, there's no reason a Macbook can't fill in.

Most of the benefits are seen in battery life, sort of like the jump from Ivy Bridge to Haswell in CPUs. Imagine a 15" Macbook Pro with 12 hours of battery life.

 

I'm pretty sure they're referring to the costs of buying a MBP (a Windows gaming notebook can be purchased for the same price with much superior hardware) and the fact that OS X doesn't have near the game selection of Windows. Even if a game comes out on both, the OS X version tends to be a sloppy port. If you are looking at a notebook for gaming and will be running Windows the majority of the time, there is no need to buy a MBP when less expensive (or same priced but better hardware) systems running Windows are available. It would be an excessive use of ones funds and negates the purpose of owning a Mac entirely (which is to run OS X, it's Apple's hardware and their software).

 

There are several big reasons: heat, battery life, lack of switchable graphics in Windows, the extra expense of needing a Windows license on top of the price premium you're paying for Apple's hardware, inferior trackpad behavior, improper display scaling even with Windows 8.1, and an inferior GPU when compared to the new Razer Blade.

 

All of the reasons you mentioned apply to Windows laptops, especially heat and battery life. Gaming notebooks are notoriously bad for that. Switchable graphics are irrelevant on a gaming notebook. I grant you the cost of a Windows license, but the $90 it costs to get Windows wouldn't dissuade me. Virtually every Windows notebook has trackpad issues, none of the new high res displays scale properly in Windows 8, and the GPU is inferior, but still extremely capable. So if you are going to deal with most of these issues anyway and you want to use OS X or you like the design, a Macbook Pro can aptly fill the role.

 

Depends on what they put into it, but if they put a GTX850/860M GDDR5 inside, you should def wait. We are talking about 50% increase in performance
People will tell you that you can wait forever, BUT broadwell wont bring any significant performance improvements, and the 20nm MAXWELL part wont be 50% faster again.
It will just run a bit cooler, just as broadwell.
I hope they quit with the Iris pro model... A downgrade compared to the 2012 model with the GT650M...

 

The reasons I mentioned are more exaggerated on a Mac because they are not designed to be used as Windows systems. A thin and light gaming notebook is a niche of a niche, and one that is better filled by one more designed for the purpose at a cost of potentially hundreds less.

 

Exactly. Even gaming notebooks taken as-is have a better hardware to cost ratio compared to a MBPr system. The baseline Razer Blade costs $100 more than a baseline 15" MBPr but it comes with a much better GPU, an Alienware 14 at $1950 features all better hardware across the board compared to the baseline 15" MBPr (except the display), and it's similar for models from Clevo. That's all comparing to the 15" MBPr that only features an Intel IGP and not a dedicated GPU. The point is that more powerful notebooks built for gaming can be purchased either at about the same price as the baseline 15" MBPr. That's almost always been the case when comparing gaming systems with MBP's. If someone is looking to buy a notebook for gaming (hence they will spend the majority of their time in Windows), they would be better off buying a notebook built for that rather than spending more money to get a 15" MBPr with a dedicated GPU only to have it provide a subpar experience.

I also wouldn't say that switchable graphics are irrelevant in a gaming notebook. People use those outside of gaming too and that's where the Intel IGP comes in handy. That allows their behemoth gaming notebook to actually get some battery life. It's not much (4-5 hours for my friend's Alienware 14) but it beats the 1.5-2 hours of use when the GPU is kicked on. It's also better than relying solely on an Intel IGP for gaming, as would be the case for the 13" MBPr along with the baseline 15" MBPr.

 

To be honest, I would be probably running windows 8.1 on it all the time.
The differences are minimal between the 2 OSes, the one is better in this part, the other in that part.
But Windows is still the king to me due to a lot software that still only runs on Windows, and some nice features like splitscreen and the insanely handy taskbar to manage a lot of open apps.

I would buy a macbook for its build quality, screen and hardware (IF they include a dedicated GPU) rather then for MAC OS

 

Then what you want is a Dell Precision M3800. Similar hardware and feel along with availability of a much better warranty.

Buying a Mac to run Windows exclusively is a waste.


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The dell XPS15/M3800 is indeed the best alternative, but I'm planning to buy a rMBP 2014 with maxwell,
Dell will only update in October/November

Few points I dislike on the XPS 15:
- heat (!) (go to notebookcheck review and watch the 55-60C case temp @ full load)
- no PCIe SSD (will be working with large PSD files(A1 format))
- 16:9 instead 16:10 (not a dealbreaker, but just an advantage for the rMPB)
- overall Design is quite good but although the dell XPS inside is nicer compared to the rMBP, all the other sides are worse, but then again inside is the most important one I dislike the font on the keyboard)
- no thunderbolt

EDIT: Damn that XPS15 is a machine, Doubting again now

 

Will there be a refresh on their 13'' MBPr line? Or only speculation?

 

I'm hoping for a Retina MacBook Air. The MBPs have way more CPU power than I need these days. A lot of RAM would be nice. Touch ID would be nice. WiDi would be nice.

As others have said, we'll know when Apple announces it. Most have been around long enough to know that.

 

There is nothing to update since it has no dedicated GPU and broadwell is not coming any soon

 

I would expect Apple's WWDC event to mainly focus on iOS and OS X updates since it is a developer focused conference. As of this point, any hardware updates will be incremental as the next iteration of Intel hardware has not been released. The only line that can really see any upgrade is the MBA and that is with the inclusion of a retina display. That's all just a rumor at this point, one that isn't grounded in any hardware information "leaking." We will have to wait and see but I'm guessing this year's WWDC will be similar to last year's and focus on the software side of Apple.

 

Any news about new display for refreshed rMBP? There were rumours about UltraHD IGZO display.

I‘d even buy late 2013 rMBP but I‘m afraid of image retention or yellow tint issues. What if image retention will occur after expiration of warranty...

 

Please see the very first response in this thread:

 

Wouldnt that make the rMBP13 completely useless? Thicker, heavier with no more performance

 

Well, if you read my post, I said it was just a rumor and it wasn't grounded in anything other than speculation. So take it for what it is: rumor.

 

Anyhow,they will need to upgrade sooner than later, since 1440x900 is an extremely lowres and most windows based ultrabooks are now offering 1920x1080 as default option (some already 1440p or even 1800p)

 

1440x900 is a scaled resolution. You can run the rMBP at 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 with minimal to no quality loss.

 

Better filled doesn't mean that the Macbook can't fill the need at all. It may not be the 100% solution, but it's not far off these days. If you are a Mac user that enjoys games or you prefer Apple hardware for some reason it isn't a bad choice.

 

Was talking about the Air13

 

Keep moving those goalposts.


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As posted by a user in a windows gaming laptop thread (I don't remember the thread and I don't remember the specific user because in these days I'm reading so many different threads, but I copied the message in my smartphone because I agree completely with him and feel free to share his argument)

"Well, in june macbooks probably refresh and almost for sure they will put in a GTX850M or GTX860M.
I am really considering a macbook pro retina 15 now, but will only be running windows on. They always say they are expensive,
and they are, but nobody can offer a decent alternative, it always lack in one department, design or batterylife or display quality...
there are no alternatives... Dell XPS15 runs hot but refresh will only come in october/november, lenovo Y50 is just ugly, Razer blade not available in Europe.."

Well I think this is such a true story

edit: probably, now that I think about it, the user could be the same user that began this thread lol

Inviato dal mio SM-N9005

 

Some people use a shipping proxy to order things like the blade to Europe. I forget the name of it but I think if you dig around you can find it.

 

The problem is getting support in Europe, it is easy to get it shipped via shipping proxy services, but what good is the laptop without a proper support. Will you risk getting a gaming machine with probably unknown reliability (you dont know the Razer service statistics)? Will you ship the big package back to US when servicing needed? Those are timely and monetary costs which you have to calculate with and for many a deal breaker.

 

That would be me, indeed