should i get a new MBP?

Hi,

I've been very impressed with the design of the new MB and MBP. I am really tempted to splash out on one now but i would like some of your thoughts.

I am a PC user and have been all my life and I mainly use my laptop for gaming and work. I currently have a 3 year old Asus T2300, 1GB DDR2, go7300. Pretty basic yes but im a student who needed to surf the web/write documents and play some games.

I will be starting a new job next year and I thought I would build a desktop for gaming seeing as how my go7300 is pretty wimpy. I was going to build a decent rig for around £1000. (Q6800, 4GB DDR2 + 2 x9800GT)

Now the new MBP has come out and i am in love with the design. I really want a mac and essentially all i use my laptop for now is internet and word. A new MBP after student discount is £1189 and gives me a high res screen + good GPU. Since i can get boot camp i can always play games in windows when i want to.

However is this a good trade off? I feel the PC is obviously much better for games but the mac should be able to stand its ground right? I know the mac cannot compare to 2 desktop 9800GT's BUT can i play crysis on it?

I was thinking of getting the MB (£816) and then building a desktop after 2-3 years but is that wasting money? I never travel with my laptop anyway!

After this year when i graduate I imagine the main use will be internet and gaming. I just dont know what I should do so any thoughts?

 

if you don'y need portability,then I think you should go with desktop-i like this new mbp,and the price is not bad,and you can play crysis on med/high stings.also,you can buy an iMac.

 

No.

Go with a PC desktop if you want to game and are not really interested in portability.

 

I agree with Thund3rball.

I build a desktop gaming machine... Quad core (q6600), 4 gigs of ram, new HDD, new dvd burner, higher end Asus mobo (don't remember the model), and an 8800gts...

I was playing Crysis at 1280x1024 completely maxed out, while patching WoW, installing the new Unreal Tournament and downloading CoD 4 demo... Crysis never stuttered... And all that for under $800. Way better for gaming than a $2000+ laptop.

 

To be totally honest and helpful to you from a perfectly good neighborhood stranger that's from out of town who used to live near you a long time ago, I wouldnt bother because as soon as you walked out from teh store you'd instantly know Apple just got you with a big one.

Yes a big one a big whopping huge king size burger ripped me off profit that just came right out of your hard earnt pocket money. They'd not only sucked you in but you'd also know this - you just walked out with a 2 year old technology that you have paid for 3 x the price of a very good branded PC notebook which could not only just do all that and a lot more, but also the pc Laptop will also be a lot better well equipped than a Mac will fanboys will ever dream about in their entire life time.

No my friend no i wouldnt bother.

 

Be careful Tyronne, your comments are highly inaccurate and the mod team hasn't forgot your past history on the forums.

In terms of value for money, you would obviously be much better off with a desktop PC. If you are really that interested in the design of the MBP and OS X, I would recommend you visit the Apple store, where you will be able to test out the GPU of Apple products and make your decision based on that.

 

If i have to be careful on my truthful honest opinion then its not worth my time nor anyone else's time to bother reading your forum.

After all an opinon is an opinion and my opinion is my opinion which are based on the products i have bought not so long ago. I own an iMac 2008 and also a MBP 2008. My opinions are based from my very own experience. Futhermore I also own 3 ALienware (2 Desktops and 1 m15x Laptop). As you can see my opinion is important to people who are into gaming and professional productivities.

In conclusions they will always be 3 sides to an opinion yours, mine and others who want to know the truth. It is up to you to do what you want with someone's opinion - use it to your own advantage.

i am sorry if i am very truthful and honest and of course i am speaking from my own experience with the Apple products.

 

I can provide proof in numerous forms that your statement:

Is highly inaccurate in every way.

Please be very careful regarding what you post.

 

Why do i have to be careful about that? That new MBP is based on old technology !!

What so in accurate about that? Did u know i am from Australia and we pay 2 x as much more than where u live? And the Apple products cost 3 x as much as a pc with equal components.

Why do you like to threathen people?

Anyway I am sorry i am not a FANBOY. i might have been if they put bluray in them?

 

Yeah... because DDR3 and 1066mhz FSB's have been in laptops for such a long time. lolz.

What they're getting at, is... point out what is old hardware.

 

If apple was to put everything in that is totally old it would never sell obviously they have to add some new bits

Could you imagine if MBP has BLURAY? awwww the possibilties are endless maybe it would make the purchasing decision a lot easier for the consumers and Apple would have many totally happy customers.

 

How exactly is that old? Isn't the logic board going to just be announced today by Nvidia? the 9600M GT, though not a high spec card, was released rather recently, less than a year old. They updated the touch pad with now four swipe, etc. Now, arguing about pricing of it compared to PC's is a different topic.

 

Well for the price they are charging it would be nice to see SLi grfx cards and built in TV Tuner with BLURAY 8 Gig of RAM and 5 Megapixel web cam.

That's what i want to see for the price.

This would take Apple to new heights. Why follow PC laptops in the marketing?

 

Well, I find the MBP priced really well for what you get, the MacBook on the other hand is great but is grossly overpriced, the hardware in it is great but I think Apple kind of forgot that its supposed to be a consumer product and therefor it should be priced as one.

Every time I configure the MBP I end up getting the highend 15" one with 128gig ssd. Either I'm getting the highend macbook or the highend mbp, have to make up my mind.

 

So basically... you have nothing to backup your claim that apple is using 2 year old hardware. Good one.

I'm sure they will support BRD when Sony released a FINAL SPEC!
Sony has already said that the PS3 is the only BRD player that will be able to support final spec (as of CES last year). Can you imagine how happy Apple users would be if they found out they couldn't use the special features of new BRD movies in their MBP?

And honestly, the upgrade cost of BRD is still too high.

 

Check the web cam out horrible megapixel also it still doesnt hve blue ray - to me that's old technology. It doesnt even have built in TV tuner.

new technology should at least incluce blu ray.

Value for money.


I want blu ray is that ok with you sir?

 

So if a laptop doesn't have a feature that you want it's "old techonology." Very logical reasoning I'd have to say.

 

Yes my friend -- New technology should include the basics especially the price the Australian consumers have to pay. I would shut my mouth if they shut down Australian Apple Stores and its distribution so we could buy direct from USA or where ever it came from.


I am tired of getting ripped off by our very own Australian people just because we live in Australia.

 

It has a 1.2 MP iSight webcam if I remember correctly. It's equal or better than most other laptop webcams. And better than some with higher resolution.

You still have provided an terribly weak argument to say that apple is using old technology. I'm not saying I would mind seeing a BRD player as an optional upgrade, but I'm betting Apple is waiting for final spec.

 

Theyhave technology that could do at least 5 megapixels why dont they put it in? why worry so much about their profit margin? Why not lead the market by offering more and better equipment?
I had a 1.3 meg webcam on my Asus Laptop 2 years ago .....

 

so if your laptop doesn't have a tv tuner and blu-ray,it is outdated...nice.

you know that your AW is very outdated?you want blu-ray?get external player!

 

they dont support blu ray we cant find programs to even make external ones work with our imac or mbp

 

Toast 9.....

 

No.. Actually that is wrong. There are no webcams that are over 2mp.

In fact, the isight may only record at 640x480 (.4mp). From what I remember, the camera got the upgrade in the later MB/MBP, but I'm not sure.
I think the still image was 1.2mp, but I'm not sure.

And really... its a freaking web cam...

 

^I was going to say that

also-

5mb webcam-pointless,since most of programs(AKA skype,msn) use < 0.3mpix.

now,do you know that your AW uses santa rosa platform,DDR2 memory?

EDIT- hollownail 1:0 Xirurg

EDIT2: and yes,isight is one of best built-in webcams

 

Let's think hard about this one... maybe because Apple is in business to make money? could that be it? could it be that maybe if Apple didn't make any profit they would go under faster than the Hindenburg?

 

can we get back on topic plz?

 

it's a nice refresh, buy maybe i was just expecting more.

 

Agreed. It looks nice, and OS X is cool and all, but nothing about the new MBP is screaming must have to me. And that hybrid SLI, ya it doesn't work on OS X. :\

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/new-macbook-pro-running-hybridsli/

 

The new MBP is nice, It has a fast CPU and DDR3 RAM, new hybrid graphics cards, and a slick design. However, it still has a lot of let downs, no Blu-ray drive, no HDMI port, no micro SD card reader, and a screen resolution of 1440x900 (too low in my opinion for any real HD content, doesn't even support 1080p, the Blu-ray res). If you really like the design of the MBP, and are content with Itunes movies (HD movies are fairly slow to download, even if you have a fast connection) and regular DVDs, don't mind only having an Express Card slot, and don't mind having the 1440x900 screen (don't get me wrong, despite the low resolution it is still a beautiful display, and LED backlit), then go for the MBP. But if you want Blu-ray, more ports, more features, and a better screen, I would look elsewhere. My first recommendation for you, if you decide against the MBP, would be the Sony Vaio FW290, which I think you will really like, ( http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...d=8198552921644564390&parentCategoryId=16154). Also, you might like the HP HDX16, given, it is a little thicker and heavier than the other two, but is has some nice features ( http://www.shopping.hp.com/series/c..._R602_b1l1/hp.com/psg/ec/pavilionhdx20081012).

But, that's just my take.

 

^^ I was going to recommend the same Sony. Looks a lot like a MBP doesn't it? Hmmm lol

 

Your posts make me lol.