2560x1440 and Asus G73

Hello,

I am currently looking for a cheap IPS monitor (for photo editing/movies/a bit of gaming/general stuff) to buy, and I had my eyes almost set on Dell 2412M. But then I saw Korean monitors (IPS 1440p). They look amazing on paper, and reviews are good too. So im really into getting one of those. But before i commit to buy it, i wanted to ask you couple of questions (I was thinking of getting CATLEAP Q270, with Dual DVI or HDMI if needed)

a) I have Asus G73 laptop (ATI Mobility 5870), and only HDMI. Would I be able to:
i) Get the cheapest version of q270 and use Dual Dvi converter to HDMI? Is it possible and would i get 1440p?
or
ii) Do i need to get multi input version with HDMI? Would I get full 1440p using HDMI?

b) Outscalling:
i) Would it upscale every movie to 1440p (full screen, not windowed), and would it upscale gaming in less than 1440p to full screen aswell?
ii) if i ever decide to connect anything else than a computer to this monitor, would it upscale it to 1440p or show it in windowed mode? (like console, camera, tv box if possible?)

c) Someone mentioned, that input lag is noticable when upscalling, is it true?


So overall, I would like to know if i would always get 1440p with my mobility 5870 using HDMI, and if there would be any problems at all.

Thank you for all the answers!
phemark

 

Yes you would be able to run that resolution using the 5870M on that external screen at 1440P but not using the HDMI port as that is limited to 1080P. You would need to use the VGA port.

In reference to upscaling whatever resolution a movie is encoded to will be the resolution that it will run at it does not matter what resolution you have your screen set to or the size of the screen you are running it on all it will do is stretch it to fill the screen.

In essence a lower resolution movie on a larger/higher resolution screen will appear lower quality the idea is to have as many pixels as possible for the quality to be greater which is why more pixels on a smaller screen appears better quality.

 

VGA goes up to 1440p?

sidenote it has to be HDMI 1.4 i believe to go above 1080p

 

VGA goes only to 2000x1500 +-

How do i know what version is my HDMI?

 

HDMI Max resolution: 1920x1200
Integrated VGA output Max resolution: 2048x1536

You cannot do 2560 on the height but you can go up to 1440 on the width.

 

HDMI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1.3
2560×1600p75
1.4
4096×2160p24

he actually might be able to since its a newer laptop...might have 1.3

 

That is the maximum a HDMI port can output the 5870M card itself cannot output higher than 1920x1200 I am afraid.

 

yea thats what i thought at first but i dont know...someone told me before that a laptop card is only limited by the adapter but i dont know. err actually they can atleast max VGA. I know the 260m can max vga...according to NVIDAs site

 

Is it by the way possible to use an internal screen with a higher resolution than 1920x1080?

 

Different cards different resolutions, I notice my 540M GT can go higher than this 5870M on the VGA side. But as above:

HDMI Max resolution: 1920x1200
VGA output Max resolution: 2048x1536

Yes the RGB 16:10 M17x R2 17.1 inch screen which runs at 1920x1200. However it will not fit in the G73.

It was one of the last of its kind because companies decided 16:9 was cheaper to make and it was a difficult size, if you want one the R2 I believe was the last version to have it and normally came with Xfire 5870M's.

 

In AMD page about Mobility 5870 I find this:

Integrated dual-link DVI output with HDCP
Max resolution: 2560x1600
Integrated DisplayPort output
Max resolution: 2560x1600
Integrated HDMI 1.3 output with Deep Color, xvYCC wide gamut support, and high bit-rate audio
Max resolution: 1920x1200
Integrated VGA output
Max resolution: 2048x1536

If it says, that there is dual-link DVI output, does it mean that i can use dual-link to HDMI converter to get it, or does it mean that Asus had to put Dual-DVI in the laptop, in order to use it? (As now there is only HDMI and VGA in G73....)

 

Does the G73JH not have a displayport? cannot believe I do not remember sad times.

Without trying it myself I cannot confirm it would work hopefully someone else can confirm but you can pick up a connector for next to nothing anyway if all else fails you should be able to get a good VGA resolution.

 

I'll wait for someone, who has tried doing this, and if it doesnt work, I'll probably go with Dell 2412M, for 1200p, because i cant see myself buying (even cheap), 2560x1440 and using only 2048x1440 .... black bars... urgh.....

Hopefully someone tried this, and will let me know

 

There is no displayport on the A1 (or any other G73)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/5803090-post4355.html (From a premier etailer).

 

Really? golly I even have one on my M11x.

So your options are HDMI and VGA. The problem you will face with going VGA is that you will need to wire off the audio if you intend to have that separate as well otherwise HDMI will do the job of audo and video nicely.

You may not notice a major difference by going from 1080p to 1200p you would be better off forking out for the nice V5 1080p Matte built in screen instead for your G73.

 

Well I need/want an external IPS monitor, 24"+, and Dell 2412M was in my price range. But then I found cheap Korean brands, which make very cheap, 27" 1440p monitors (same panel as Apple cinema displays, just worse build quality, no perks etc.). So i was really hoping that i can connect it to my G73... but oh well, Dell 2412M (probably), will be good enough with its 1200p..


(But im still waiting for someone to come here and say that there is a way to get 1440p! )

 

Just to be sure here we are talking about resolutions chap it will connect you just may not be able to max out its capable resolution.

If its the screen you want go for it 1080p is more than enough anyway anything more is a bonus.

 

Hi again,

Another question:

If i get Dell 2412M, can i Use DVI to HDMI converter and get 1200p?

 

I see no reason why that shouldn't work, the supported resolutions should be the same as the HDMI ones.

Anyone got out by the way if its possible to replace the internal screen with one which has a higher resolution than 1080/1200p?

 

As mentioned before 1200p will not fit in the G73 as that is 16:10 ratio and the G73 is 16:9. They stopped making the 16:10 a while ago the M17x R2 was the last model to have one.

 

I'm going to pop-in out of no where here and make a small suggestion.

Just putting this out there

Heard of the Achieva Shimian QH270 and Catleap Q270?

They both share the same panel as the Apple Cinema Display and are 27" WQHD S-IPS Displays, the kicker? $350-$450.

Yeah, that's half the price of almost anything else out there.

The displays aren't, "amazing" but their price certainly is.

AnAndTech Review

Huge thread @ overlock.net (Awesome review as well)

Model and Technical Information


Downside?

• It's from Korea, which means 0 technical support. (Unless you want to ship it back to Korea)
• This might also require you to go out and purchase your own power brick.
• The case which encompass the display is mediocre at best.
• Only a single Dual Link DVI input.
• Depending on who/where you buy it, be prepare for dead pixels. Some of these (most are) sold as reject panels.
• Shipping is 20% of the price. (Hence $350 to $450, the latter includes shipping.

On that note, I'm going to disappear and I may not show up for a few days.

 

Yes I have considered this is as well but as you say the downside is there but for the price it is a great deal. Most do come with dead pixels however so if you have OCD like me you may not be so pleased but then again with such a high resolution reviews have said that you can barely see the dead pixels or bright pixels anyway.

Do remember also that trying to game at such a high resolution on a mobile card is going to be very difficult especially if you are using a mid range GPU it will struggle to keep up.

Such a shame they no longer make 16:10 screens.

 

So my 2412 has just arrived, connected via VGA, waiting for hdmi>dvi cable, will let you know once it arrives.

Regarding screen - I thought that my G73 screen is good (which it is, compared to other laptops). But compared to this one, its just amazing...... G73 screen looks dim and bluish in comparison

Does anyone know how can i calibrate/adjust G73 screen? Any profiles that i can apply to get the best out of it, so it wouldnt look so dim and blueish in comparison?

Edit: Found white balance adjustment in CCC, and lowering it from 6500k to 5800k removed the bluish tint - I only needed to compare the screen with a proper screen to see it

P.S. but still, please share any profiles for G73 or dell 2412

 

Confirming, HDMI>DVI works fine with 1200p

now if only it did with anything higher.....

 

Through HDMI that is as high as it goes the 5870M cannot do more than 1200P.

You need DVI or Displayport output to go higher. Unless you go with analog but the quality will suffer.

 

I'm talking about a 16:9 screen, just with a higher resolution like the mentioned "2560 x 1440". I mean its just a matter of time till such screens are available/payable.

 

It wont happen because it is all about cheaper screens hence why screens have not improved in the last few years and some suppliers are even using worse screens because they are cheaper. The higher the resolution the bigger the screen you need to display it and 2560 x 1440 is only in IPS screens or Apple's 27 inch screens as it makes text very small and would not be usable in a 17 inch screen. 16:9 ratio will not being able to fit 1200p the screen sizes are different I miss the 1200p screens

16:9 are 640x360, 854x480, 960x540, 1024×576, 1280×720, 1366×768, 1600×900, 1920×1080, 2048x1152, 2560×1440, 3840×2160 and 4096x2304

16:10 are 1280×800, 1440×900, 1680×1050, 1920×1200, 2560×1600