3D Mark 11

So I ran 3d Mark 11 and got a score of P1951, my brother also ran it and got P2228 he has a G73JH, I have 16gb or ram he has 6gb, I have the GTX 460m 1.5gb, he has the ATI Radeon HD 5870 1gb. Why is my score so low? Just out of curiosity.

 

because 5870M's are AWESOME!

Real world gaming, they're about the same.

 

that doesn't help Chasity lol

 

In 3dmark11 The hd5870m has the edge due to Amd different dx11 features and tessellation engine management, but as Chast said, in real world performance specially when both overclocked things are quite on par.
In some Amd games the Amd cards still have the edge, the same happens with nvidia games.
Althought lately nvidia drivers shortened the gap in those Amd gaming evolved titles such Dirt 3 and F1 giving practically the same performance when overclocked.

By a pure benchmark view, you can compare AMD cards with Nvidia only with 3dmarkVantage and 3dmark06.

3dmark11 can be used up this point to compare only Amd cards with Amd cards. That's because Amd offers a different way to manage dx11 tessellation with a software slider found in CC which increases or decreases the tessellation multiplier.
The default tessellation value found in CC is weaker compared to Nvidia counterpart that uses it's own completely managed by the driver, but with a fixed value instead.

When Amd implemented such feature it created quite a stir in the community: it's so easy to cheat in dx11 benchmarks by simply lowering the tessellation factor thus having higher scores.

In the current state since Amd drivers act directly on the stream processors with that tessellation factor, dx11 benchmarks are still limited brand by brand.

Also that gap isn't hugely wide: i don't know if you or your brother are running the gpus overclocked, put keep in mind that the hd5870m was in the same league of a gtx470m.
Just lately with driver optimizations and overclock the 460m/560m can keep on par with it when overclocked (800/1000 in most of cases) with a small, if non existent, fps difference in games.

Gtx460m runs by default at 675-1350-1250 while hd5870 runs at 700. That's also a big difference, 100mhz on gpu core counts alot in syntethic benchmarks, that's why having both oced shortens the gap.

In short words I don't see a winner here, there are things where Amd performs better and same applies to nvidia, but so far the difference is not substantial enough.

 

Well, I got 2050P pn my g53sw-a1 after updating the drivers. you won't feel so diffrent between 2050P~2228P so much...if it was like 2050P~2500P, I can say you will see the differents. I just think that,as long as Nvidia makes new drivers, be sure that they will improve the performance. (with 275 I had 18XXP, and with 285.37, 2050!)

 

Those scores are very low even with those cards I was getting around 2400 with my 720QM with my 5870M running at 800/1000.

I would check and re run again making sure everything is set to high performance. The 460M GTX should easily get above 2000 marks.

But as Chastity did say the 5870M is awesome My score in my sig is with Tessellation fully on no fiddling in CCC.

If not this will make you feel better about your score.

 

The two GPU's are virtually equal. Don't worry about the 3dmark11 score.

Ignore the score.

 

Synthetic benchmarks are the bane of the review world.

When we can have some game developer boot-licking certain GPU makers, synthetics make matters worse.

They are only good for using as reference markers for the same machine when testing overclocking, stability etc.

 

Well that makes me feel a little bit better. I did do a 3dmark 06 benchmark and got a score a little over 13000, i don't remember the exact number now but it was in the average range comparable to other similar laptops. Thanks for insight.