9800m GS overclock numbers??

would someone please go ahead and post highest stable overclocks
(core/mem/shader) for the 9800m GS please? (preferable on a G50vt).
3dmark06 score'd be nice too.

 

I dont think we can OC more then what direct console will let us do. You can read my thread and i posted some 3d marks score with all OC options availabe.

 

I am pretty sure thatr direct console is only overclocking the CPU and not the GPU. I haven't tried to overclock yet and I may not try because I don't have a lot of experience and it is running great. I do think it has a little headroom to be overclocked as the temperatures only hit 80 C max. That is without a cooler.

 

im also interested in o'clocking results...i dont have any experience with it so i dont want to even try it lol..

but if one of you more savy dudes out there wants to give it a try and post some stable clocks then i'd be willing to try..

 

What software do you use to oc the video card?

 

just download the nvidia ntune 6.03

accept the eula and start pushing the sliders...

 

yes ntune 6.03. Also, use nvidia system monitor. Keep it up in its little
window to be sure your temps are ok and your OC is in affect

 

I set it to GTS speeds, (its only 12%) and it seemed to work fine in games but it was well over 80C, so I didn't feel comfortable with an extended overclock period.
It most definitely does overclock, but it runs a bit warm doing so.

Maybe with a cooler...

 

can you post the numbers please?

 

Thanks. (I assume you mean 600/800/1500 wow if that's trend, its disappointing. 75c is safe upper limit IMO. I assume you had good flow under lappy. I thought it would do that more easily. But if it will stay there and no downclock itself (my 7811 does that) it might be okay. 1500 is kinda a decent OC on the shader.. i guess the 7811fx bios does the temp downclock? FPS drops way down, (or like 10% of time it hangs) I dont like it. Im from old school, I watch my own temps and look for artifacts/hangs

 

The "safe" temperatur of the card depends heavily on the maker but they are usually made to withstand 100c or something like that.

My card on standard clocks after several hours of gaming it reaches 85C and it never downlocks so far, I hope it never does because that is a problem I had with my 9500M GS card.

85C is the max temp I have ever reached, and I think only with crysis. I haven't tried overclocking mainly because I don't need to, I am able to play everything with satisfactory results on stock clocks. Maybe I will bumb the shaders and core to their respectful GTS speeds but that might be next year

 

105C is the the critical temp for all or most nvidia GPUs. Usually, there is a lower temp threshold (in the 90s) where the GPU will start to downclock to prevent overheating. Once it hits 105C, your system will automatically shutdown.

 

As far as 105 goes, my HP dv9000 with the hunk of junk 8600m GS runs at around 100*C WITHOUT overclocking and I have had it hit 110*C many times. My gut feeling tells me that the temperature gauge that computer was trash, but it might have been true. The thing got hot as hell!

The gaming would slow down in the high 80s, but since regular running temps were mid 90s to mid 100s I always played in a bit of a sluggish environment. I played COD4 @1024x7 and everything on max, no AA, no specular maps, an it ran about 40fps and in the low 30s during action... BUT would hickup for a split second every two minutes.

I don't know if it was the temperatures or not...

 

ok I overclocked my g50-vtx1 (BB model) to 600/800/1500 first and on the second test of 3dmark06 my display driver gave an error...

i went back to 600/800/1450 and it worked, btw im using 179.14 driver found on the asus support site

3dmark06 @ 1280 x 720:

Stock: 9181
oc'ed: 9570

im gonna run some games and check temps now and see how it works.. what do you guys think?


*** EDIT: well, that didnt work too good, ran cod4 for less than 5 minutes and the display driver error came up again lol, this is my first time oc'ing so i think im just gonna let someone else try it lol...

hope you guys figure something out =)

 

make sure to monitor temps at all time when running an oc notebook.
just have the hwmonitor tab always in the background so you can check the max temps after gaming. the oc seems good but do post temps.

mind you the 3dmark score is a little "bloated" as to the low res...
you can have a rough estimate by calculating the pixels 1280x720=921600
while the default is 1280x1024=1310720 so basically you are pushing only 70.3125% of the pixels. so your score is more like 6729ish...

sorry for being overly technical this morning...

i reckon this asus is the best bang for buck in the sub 17" division.

 

Hmm so the 9800GS overclocks without a hitch?

Nobody with the G50V has managed to overclock the 9700GT yet that I know of, so I am giving this a shot now and seeing if it works.

If you can overclock the VT and not the V thats really going to upset some people.

 

no, read my edit..it didnt work just yet..

5 minutes into cod4 i got the driver error...
So i went back to stock clocks.. my temps while gaming at stock are max
84C as far as i have seen, but im using everest and it doesnt show me like max/min or anything like that...its pretty much in real time so i have to minimize the game and just check the temp real quick

What software do you guys use for temp monitoring?

anyways, i hope someone else gives this a shot because i dont have the experience or the patience to oc little by little and tewak it right =(

 

Nmonitor is great for temps logs infact its my favorite program. Because you can have it save to a text log at a custom time and with any information you want so if you crash your system upon reboot you can open the log and see the information all the way up until you crashed.

Program did not work for me, set custom clocks and hit "apply" and it goes right back to stock. It could be the driver version I am using but I doubt it.

 

or you can use cpuid hwmonitor

 

RivaTuner really is the be all and end all to over clocking utilities. It has everything you need and WAY more. I am a very experienced over clocker on the desktop side and will try at some point to OC my 9800GS, but for now its just not needed.

 

I got some numbers, but still haven't find a driver to overclock the GPU and run stable:

 

Thanks for the benchmarks Ken.


Is 85c an in the ballpark estimate for GPU temps at high loads?

 

im running 175.80 and have successfully up clocked my shader clock by quite a bit stable around 1850 artifacts start appearing the other clocks are funny and like to clock back down but i got them at 625 core and 800 memory i brought the shader back to 1750 to avoid damage.

I verified the speeds and 3dmarked .......its true they are over clocked i gained a whole 500 3dmark points with a 9700 in the g50v-a2

 

The temperature shows 79c right after I exit 3Dmark.

I use 177.92 and 180.44 both not running stable, the core speed can't go higher than 600, memory 800 and shadder 1500.

I'll try 175.80 later.

 

Somethings limiting me and i cant figure it out yet i have yet to crash the computer but occasionally it says Can not apply set value its out of boundries

This is even if i try to set the clocks back to normal and i cant do anything till i restart......it happens without fail if i push the clock pass 625 or the memory passed 800

To gentech.....what are you using to overclock im only using nvidia system tools 6.03 nothing else works.

 

so at 600/800/1800 (shader OC'd) do you have 3dmark06 number ?(1280x1024 is good standard). how about 600/800/1500? I wonder about the core and mem OC prob you are having... I hope its not a firmware thing, that would suk-but it would explain it. Hope its not bios either. I know asus has more feature-rich bios than gateway. the 9800m BTS in this 7811fx overclocks freely and will usually just downclock in the game or benchmark if it gets too hot (but sometimes it hangs). I hope with you its driver thing, so please try others, good luck. I would like to see that thing go almost as high as GTS. that high shader number you gave around 1850 is already close enough. I run my GTS at 720/985/1872. in V64 at 1280x1024 that gives 9551. I dont think it will do much more for long. I think the new bios (9c.12.00) actually helped it a little. I dont expect the GS to do every bit as well, I just want to know if its locked or something...beside the cpu extreme turbo helps. looking at my normal mode xp and vista numbers on GTS compared to gentech's it looks like GS is about 500 behind in score (mine were 8997 xp, 8740 v64 (both at 1280x1040). but if you jack the GS to 600/800/1500 can you match those? (turbo off). in theory it should beat them a little if you run p8600 since this is a p8400.

 

I am using the same program nVidia System Tools 6.03, very unstable.

 

Yep i went from 5400 3dmark06 to 6200 3dmark06, this is with the system normally loaded not optimized for best results.... i can get about 6000 when optimized so i am wondering what 3dmark will spit out with it

So far here is the results
Shader Clock:1550 score 5445
Shader Clock:1750 score 6159
Shader Clock:1800 score 6225


Temp running at 81c at 1800mhz shader clock

and its 625/800/1800

 

royk50 posting "technical" prediction of scores based on mathematical assumptions for pixels displayed...

Although there is logic behind your calculations, you are making one big mistake: you are assuming that performance is linear with respect the number of each indivitual pixel on screen. Since each GPU has different specs, specially the bus of the card, the peformance per resolution increase is vastly different. Some GPUs have an exponential decrease at higher res etc some maintain a pseudo-linear performance.

To actually find a linear performance expectation, you need at least two scores on different resolutions, to find a possible slope between them and get an idea of the linearity of performance the card can match at certain resolutions. Sometimes a card can still maintain great performance with much more pixels on screen that what a mathematical assumption might get ya.

and as a general rule, expect a 256-bit card to have slight decrease in score as resolution goes up. As you can see from other sources, the score at higher resolutions are way beyond your prediction.

 

I like the temp and OC clocks, but what' sup with those scores? what resolution where you using? must been really high. what lappy do u have anyway? we are talking about a 9800m GS and a p8600 right? (those look instead like really good scores for a 9650m) do you have 1280x1024 scores? Thanks

 

el_touristo_duo, his scores are of a nVidia 9700 GT 512MB GDDR3 video card.

 

i stand corrected.
as to the 9800gts in 7811fx :

posted by fiziks

 

Very good point, and should be heard by more people because most people assume a linear relationship between bus width and performance (in this case, 3DM6 score).

 

Just the basic version what ever test it lets you do free

Edit and like i said when im purely pushing for 3dmark i can get 6200 no overclock those were taken with 70 processes running......5400 is what i get base with a normal boot up

 

Just some prelim numbers... (Only had time for two runs and haven't run optimizations at all or updated drivers)

Run1
Stock Drivers (176.23), Stock GPU settings, Normal CPU speed (2.26GHz), Vista64 Ultimate
7729 3Dmark06
SM2.0 = 3566
SM3.0 = 3248
CPU = 2028
CPU 46C ending 58C max
GPU 70C ending 83C max

Run2 **FAILED**
Stock Drivers (176.23), OC GPU settings= 600core/800mem/1500shader, Normal CPU speed (2.26GHz), Vista64 Ultimate
0000 3Dmark06 (crashed on pixie test)
SM2.0 = 0000
SM3.0 = 0000
CPU = 0000
CPU 46C ending 57C max
GPU 72C ending 80C max

Note the crash second time (OC'd) was a DRIVER failure. (Vista recovered)
Also note that the successful test actually got hotter, so it likely wasn't the heat.

Odder still, the games I have on here right now (Lineage2, AoC) work fine at 600core/800mem/1500shader, but they (especially AoC) heat up to the 85C zone.

 

I get 85C on my GPU when playing for a while, its pretty normal and I haven't seen it get beyond that point, nor have I experienced downclocking like my previous Nvidia cards.

Hell, my 9500M GS ran hotter overall than the 9800GS! I say this machine has a very nice cooling system.

 

Did Anyone advance further in some overclock numbers?

 

i got my 9700gt running 625/800/1820 stable

 

bump * anyone had any luck oc'ing the 9800m GS?

If so please post driver version, clocks, temperature and 3dmark06 score

comeon guys...i know someone knows how to oc this card lol

 

trying to see, for comparison, what 3dmark06 - at 1280x1024 setting (the setting in the free package) on a g50vt-x2 or similarly equipped p8600 (normal and turbo extreme) with 9800m GS-- OC's to 625/800/1600 or higher.
Thanks to anyone who can help

 

Well, I want to try out what performance I can squeeze out of this card... I started to OC very lightly today.

For reference: All my scores, 3dmark06 etc will be subject to 1280x768 res, as that is the free version allows me to use.

3dmark06 (CPU in turbo mode @ 2.5ghz, GPU at stock 530/799/1325)
-8736
Max temperature in use 85C after several hours of gaming. No laptop cooler used.

3dmark06 (CPU in turbo mode @ 2.5ghz, GPU at stock 560/800/1400)
-9124
Temperature reached after playing crysis a little hwile (15 mins) 80C. No cooler used (but raised 1 inch from behind)

Next test comming...
3dmark06 (CPU in turbo mode @ 2.5ghz, GPU at stock 580/800/1500)

 

sweet! What are you using to OC?

 

looking good.

 

Well, I don't have much time so I ran the test a couple of times. I am using Nvidia System Tool 6.03 to O/C and riva tuner to monitor clocks and temp (to check if there are downclocks too)

3dmark06 (CPU in turbo mode @ 2.5ghz, GPU at 580/800/1500)
-9142
Max temperature during test 81C. The PC was not in a fresh reboot, and I had some programs in the background thus less CPU score meaning less overall 3dmark score: usual CPU score 2220+, but during this test I has 2146.

3dmark06 (CPU in turbo mode @ 2.5ghz, GPU at 600/800/1600)
-0000 Crashed: Driver error during shader test, thus drivers have problems with 1600mhz speeds.

3dmark06 (CPU in turbo mode @ 2.5ghz, GPU at 600/800/1550)
-9409 (after fresh reboot too)
Temperatures reached 84C during test near the end. My usual temps when gaming or testing are 81C or so, and 85C is the top I have seen after several hours of gaming. These clocks might be too hot in the long run.

Latest test individual results:
SM 2.0 Score 4409
SM 3.0 Score 4155
CPU Score 2232

I am going to change drivers for the next tests. Going to use Dox modified 180.70 which I heard very good things about. I will post impressions on that later.

I played crysis to check out any improvements and overall I saw a 10-15% increase in performance (about 3-4 fps increase, and overall a tad bit higher average fps). I also noticed that during crysis, my memory clocks dropped to 300mhz and that temps never reached over 78C. Interesting behavior... any idea why this happened? on 3Dmark06 clocks always remain on their set 800mhz. Maybe Crysis at medium is not stressing the card enough? Note: Only memory clocks dropped, Core and shaders remained at 600mhz and 1550mhz respectively

 

Or it could be Crysis stresses the GPU even more so than 3DM6, so the card auto downclocked.

a.k.a. The m15x syndrome

 

Well I was considering that, but the clocks didn't drop during game and I didn't notice any performance drop, performance was always the same, and seeing the log it seems the card automatically was performing at 300mhz.

Weird stuff. Maybe this is one of the tricks of the video card to run cooler? Only woring in 3dmark to give big scores, but performing slower during games! O will check with other games have this behavior.

 

After playing for a while, it seems the card went back to 800mhz and stayed there. It only began as 300mhz when crysis started but after a few minutes it went back up.

Weird, but there is no downclocking it seems so it's all good.

For now, I am not that interested in pushing my card. Maybe when my warranty dies in a year, I will mod the machine to heavily O/C it and perform better. Meanwhile even in crysis it fares okay with 20-30fps at most high settings, native res.

 

that 9800 is a powerful card for a laptop

 

Wow thanks ryzeki, I followed your tests and I managed to break the 10K points under 3DMark06 free version with almost exact same setup as yours (CPU in turbo mode @ 2.9ghz, GPU with DOX 182.05 OP and 560/800/1400)



Cheers!
RayanMX

 

At 1366x768 (full version):

P8400 @ 2.64GHz
9800M GS 512MB GDDR3 @ 600/800/1500
DOX 182.05 drivers

9,516 3DMarks

Setting it to 1280x768 yields a modest improvement to 9,712 3DMarks.