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    9800m GS overclock numbers??

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by el_touristo_duo, Nov 16, 2008.

  1. betc

    betc Notebook Consultant

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    Hey Guys,

    good fun this oc'ing stuff. here are my numbers
    all results are 1280x1024 in 3DMark06

    Vista 64bit
    8999 3dmarks
    GTS speeds (600/800/1500), CPU oc'ed to 3.08Ghz
    older drivers

    XP 32bit
    9704 3dmarks
    GTS speeds (600/800/1500), 2.8Ghz
    older drivers

    9917 3DMarks
    GTS speeds (600/800/1500), 3.1Ghz
    newer 182.5 nvidia drivers

    10240 3dmarks
    SM 2.0 Score 4473
    Sm 3.0 4349
    Cpu score 2915
    9800m GTS oc'ed (600, 1550, 850). T9600 @ 3.1ghz
    newer 182.5 nvidia drivers


    Crysis
    1.2.1, high, xp32bit, 1024x768 gpu_benchmark, noaa. GTS speed, 3.1Ghz t9600
    40.26fps

    havent tried the docx drivers yet, i should do that tonight...
     
  2. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    lol 10k points with that settings? how the did u do that?
     
  3. RayanMX

    RayanMX Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm sure betc can explain this better and in more detail but...

    He's using:

    9800m GTS oc'ed ( 600, 1550, 850). T9600 @ 3.1ghz
    newer 182.5 nvidia drivers

    As you can see he flashed an nVidia 9800M GTS BIOS onto the 9800M GS card.

    Cheers!
    RayanMX
     
  4. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    u wrote:

    well i got the same driver + turbo mode + 570/800/1465 and only 9k ?! oO
     
  5. CA36GTP

    CA36GTP Notebook Evangelist

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    betc, can you do me a favor if you've got a free couple minutes and run 3dmark in Vista at 1366x768, preferably with DOX 182.05 drivers? I'm trying to get a direct comparison, and for some reason I lose performance when I output to an external monitor.

    I'm concerned that I have some mild GPU instability that is draining power but not crashing anything.
     
  6. RayanMX

    RayanMX Notebook Evangelist

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    Ah ok, I thought you where asking betc... :)

    Well, that test run I did when I achieved 10K was mistakenly done in 1280x768 instead of the default 1280x1024.

    What resolution did you use?

    Here's a video I made of my laptop running 3DMark06

    Cheers!
    RayanMX
     
  7. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    1280x1024

    hmm too bad :;( thought already you found a super trick :p

    btw do u think that dox driver rly gives any performance boost?
     
  8. RayanMX

    RayanMX Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, it's not that bad... After all I got better results than ryzeki according to the results he got on this post I quote below:

    And yes, I found DOX drivers more capable of higher clock rates than the 178 I was using before. Also I think they run a bit cooler too.
     
  9. TheJoka

    TheJoka Newbie

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    Default settings (1280x1024) 3DM06 with G50VT-B1 (T9550 @ 2660Mhz CPU), Nvidia Driver 186.81

    No OC -> 8860

    Clock GPU (Geometric) 530
    Clock GPU (shader) 1300
    Clock Memory 800
    Clock CPU 2660

    OC 13% GeForce, 0% CPU -> 9692 (Average 4,4 more FPS)
    Clock GPU (Geometric) 600
    Clock GPU (shader) 1500
    Clock Memory 907
    Clock CPU 2660

    OC 25% GeForce, 0% CPU -> 10254 (Average 7,6 more FPS)
    Clock GPU (Geometric) 657
    Clock GPU (shader) 1650
    Clock Memory 999
    Clock CPU 2660

    OC 25% GeForce, 13% CPU -> 10754 (Average 8,5 more FPS)
    Clock GPU (Geometric) 657
    Clock GPU (shader) 1650
    Clock Memory 999
    Clock CPU 3006

    Temp was around 87-88°C, max 89 [by EVEREST]
     
  10. Coulsty

    Coulsty Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was wondering If anyone could help me with OC'ing this card. I have the ASUS G50vt-x5 and I've formatted to Windows 7.

    This screen shot will show what drivers I am running plus the small OC I am performing.

    http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3479/65843096.jpg

    You can see the overclock is showing up in the System Info - but when I initially hit apply to overclock it says: "The changes made were invalid and will not be applied"

    Does it get changed or is system properties lying to me!
     
  11. TheJoka

    TheJoka Newbie

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    you should check with GPUz or Everest
     
  12. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    640/894 is the best I can do with stock volts.
     
  13. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ok, I think I win:

    Undervolted to 0.95V gives me better overclocking results:
    700mhz core / 894mhz mem

    I suggest undervolting and keep the temps down if you want a huge overclock like mine :p
     
  14. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    Wow moral hazard, that's impressive. I think I'll try undervolting and overclocking a bit.

    As a sidenote, how many times can EEPROM be flashed? I think i'm approaching 2 dozen times now total. I've also noted it takes longer to flash now than it did originally, but I've been flashing when gpu temps approach 70C.
     
  15. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That's interesting (the EEPROM flashing thing).

    Maybe you are onto something there, at least you have a removable GPU so that in the worst case you can still have a working notebook.
     
  16. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    I sure wish I wasn't onto something... But yeah I suppose a dead GPU will give me an excuse to swap out for a GTX 260m or a GTS 360m when it comes out. Not that I can afford that right now.
     
  17. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    I undervolted to 1.0v at 570/1430/800. I tried GTS clocks at 1.0V but 3dMark won't even start. I guess my silicon isn't as good as everyone else's :(
    What's funny though is that I could run at GTS clocks+voltages when my screen res was 1366x768. Now that it's WSXGA+, my idling temp went up a few degrees and I had to reduce my overclock a bit, and GTS clocks became unstable.

    As a sidenote, I discovered my heatsink grille was clogging up with dust, so I cleared some of it just by blowing through the grille, and my maxtemps on 3DMark dropped from 103C to 89C. What a difference from dust, huh? I didn't get everything completely, either.
     
  18. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Your overclock is being held back by the temps.

    I never get over 82C with furmark.
    In most games it's only at 66C and idle at 42C.

    And it's summer here in australia.

    I suggest you change the thermal paste and really give the heatsink a good clean. (Unless this will void your warranty).

    Anyway, I'm sure after you cool it down it will overclock better.
     
  19. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    Hm, thermal paste might be a good idea too. When I had GTS clocks before, it would bug out at ~90C, sometimes 89C, and by reducing clocks the tiniest bit I extended stability by 10C, regardless of voltages. I don't think my card can handle full-usage GTS clocks. My theory is that I can max out every game comfortably at 1366x768, but now that I have 70% more pixels, it's stressing shaders and memory a lot more, causing things to heat up.

    I actually drilled a few small holes with a 1/16" bit in the back grille and saw temps drop by a few C, too. Now I'm thinking of upgrading my CPU to a hotter one, so I'm sure that would be a good time to paste up the heatsinks. I can't decide if $150 ($250-$100 if I sell my current CPU) is worth 30-40% cpu improvement...

    Not worried about warranty since I snagged the Best Buy model two Christmases ago--1 year limited FTL! :p
     
  20. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    O_O

    Oooooh.

    Is there any guide on how to replace the GPU somewhere? Like software/driverwise, what would I need to do?
     
  22. moral hazard

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    Aha, alrighty. I was just wondering if flashing/etc was required. Thanks for the link to the disassembly guide, I had lost that. That's been quite the handy resource with modding my computer :)
     
  24. Paulieb81

    Paulieb81 Newbie

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    Does anyone know why the cooling and voltages options would be disabled in Nvidia System Tools 6.05? I am running Windows 7 x64, and have a 9800 GS installed in an Asus G71G. I have searched for answers but turn up none.

    Otherwise any other ideas on how to change the voltage besides Nvidia system tools?
     
  25. Duct Tape Dude

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    NiBitor? 10char
     
  26. Runar

    Runar Newbie

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    Hi, I just clocked the 9800m GS to 9800m GTS settings (600/800/1500) and it actually runs cooler. Before it would lay at about 80C (87max) when gaming now it's in the low 70s with a max of 75. This is probably because the GPU dosen't have to work as hard to do the same as earlier.

    BTW, CPU is also running cooler. This because less effort is needed to cool the GPU.
     
  27. Tenspeed33

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    Dude, the whole point of an overclock is to make your GPU work harder, so your reason is ridiculous. Your GPU is running at new, higher clocks, meaning it is straining a lot more than previously, so how you have cooler temps I have no idea.
     
  28. Runar

    Runar Newbie

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    What I meant was not that it does less work, I just said that it doesn't have to work as hard to do the same. So even thought it does more, it doesn't have to work like a mother to do it. It's like when you work out in a gym for a year, same work less effort even thought more muscle fibers works to do the task.
    Thus less heat(or in the last example sweat)
     
  29. Tenspeed33

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    It doesn't work like that, because it isn't doing the same as before, it's doing a lot more, so therefore it's working a lot harder, and should be running hotter. ( like every other overclocker on this forum, you are an except for some reason or another.)
     
  30. moral hazard

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    It should be hotter unless you cap the frame rate.
     
  31. Ayle

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    Always pushing the envelope as I can see :cool:
     
  32. xgreyfox

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    what would be the safest overclock on the gpu memory we could do?
    i have succesfully flashed my gs to gts and stress tested in furmark and playing final fantasy 14 my max temps in furmark = 95c
    in final fantasy f14 ive gotten 85c ... gpu runs at 98% capacity
    final fantasy 11 runs at 74c

    i have since flashed back to stock gpu and ff11 runs at about 72-74c
    overclocked to 590/1475/799 which gpuz states is actually running 585/1500/799.2

    3dmark06 and ff11 run this clock fine
    3dmark score = 8658 @ 79C
    furmark crashes and any clock over that crashes or drops my volts down to .90
     
  33. desktopsheavyonlap

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    I think those are the safest and I'll be using them, so thanks.

    On my non-flashed, regular 9800m gs with the unmodified nvidia 267.76 driver, I tried the 600/1500/800 (the default gts clock numbers) and on one game (Rift, to be specific,) I would see harsh tearing, etc. and on others the games would crash and or gpu will downvolt. I've tried lower but stabler settings but nothing as high as the numbers you gave.
     
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