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    ASUS G53JW-3DE or G73JW-A1 Is 3d worth it?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by quaddragon, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. quaddragon

    quaddragon Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well what do you guys think, I know if yall are nerds like me you already know the specs. 3d or no?
     
  2. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    If its the same notebook specs, i guess the 3D screen and glasses would carry a price premium.
    Both notebooks can do 3D over HDMI 1.4 to a compatible 3D ready HDTV.

    I personally would take a non 3D screen, since i already use glasses. xD
     
  3. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Nope not worth it.
    Extended playing time will cause extreme eyestrain and FPS are cut in half to produce the 3D image.
    Now you tell me if it's worth it?
     
  4. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    I think the answer to this question will be largely dependent on the quality of the 120hz screens...... and secondly on one's budget. High expectations of true 3D performance, are probably too optimistic considering the 460M..... so I think the screen will be the deal-maker/breaker for these models. If the screen is stellar, the question here will be, are we willing to pay $200 extra for this? Otherwise, Asus will need to somehow sweeten the specs of their 3D offerings considerably, or reduce the introductory prices.

    :)
     
  5. Voli

    Voli Notebook Enthusiast

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    3d technology is no where near the level where it would be comfortable to look at for extended periods. Maybe in a few years.
     
  6. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    I saw 3d tvs and 3d games... i feel its very much worth it.
     
  7. Voli

    Voli Notebook Enthusiast

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    I didn't question whether it was worth it or not. I'm stating current 3d technology is not mature enough
     
  8. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    If you didn't have to wear a pair of glasses it wouldn't be that bad.
    Last time I checked the 3D G53 was $300 more with a lower res a screen - 1366x768, and that doesn't help.
     
  9. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree, the low res screen sucks. I already have the same screen (60hz though) and I'm fine with it.

    In gaming i don't use more than 720p, and when working on Word, Autocad, or anything... I have a secondary screen to split up the work. So in my situation I feel comfortable with the screen.

    But remember the 300$ also gets you a bluray reader (100$), glasses (100$), and a built in ir emitter (100$) so really you are not paying anything for the screen.
     
  10. quaddragon

    quaddragon Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for all the great points. I guess 3d technology at this point is a bit immature. I think im going to wait it out.
     
  11. raydabruce

    raydabruce Notebook Carnivore

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    I agree with IKAS V and voli on this issue.

    When they can project a 3D hologram into the middle of the room, well... then maybe I'll spring for it. ;-)
     
  12. whipser

    whipser Newbie

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    I have the Asus G53JX-3DE and well worth the price. The technology has changed enough to make it seem flawless as long as you check your refresh rates for the environment you are in and test that you are capable of seeing
    3D. Each environment may require a different refresh rate or you may get an irritating flicker. Depending on settings you may want to jump back as things fly out at you or grab that mic and sing. Wave that smoke away etc...
     
  13. sisqo_uk

    sisqo_uk Notebook Deity

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    That explains why you cannot get in any higher then HD resolution
     
  14. ConceptRage

    ConceptRage Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am just wondering where you saw your 3D videos or Gaming? I have been to microcenter and bestbuy at both i tried 3D with them glasses. Crisis 3D on desktop looked like .. And Tvs i saw at bestbuy i couldn't tell i was watching 3D..

    :eek: Me personally forget 3D for a few years.
     
  15. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    I wasn't talking to you... I'm answering the question stated in the headline.

    I saw almost everything at best buy, but then my buddy has a 3d set up (Samsung 46inch) with ps3... and it is fantastic, just fell in love with motor storm 3d...

    I have a desktop with nvidia gtx 465 and tried out the nvidia 3d... unfortunately that desktop is not in US, I built it for the company... but it was a stellar experience.

    If you couldn't tell you were watching 3D, that's because the 3D that was displayed was "Simulated" so the effect is barely there... I bet you were watching avatar in 3d in bestbuy... the Tvs simulate that 3d effect because Avatar in 3D isn't even out yet.

    Watch Monsters Vs Aliens 3D version at best buy(its bundled with Samsung TVs)... absolutely wonderful 3d movie that doesn't try to push 3d in your face, but rather it's there for a bigger (or deeper) experience.

    What I'm afraid of is the small 15.6 inch screen... will the 3D experience on a small screen continue to wow me, or will I always be wishing for more... something I'll find out soon enough.

    3D TVs are a redic ripoff because buying 2 extra glasses alone will set you back almost 300$... so if you have a family of 4 You need to pay 450 JUST FOR GLASSES (1 comes free) That's more than a quarter of the cost of a 3d tv (around 1800 for Samsung)

    But for a gaming laptop, I'm going to get another pair and that's about it. I'm using it for my personal usage and not a tv... that's why I went for it.

    3D is really "a few years" for everyone, statistics show 3d tvs have a tiny market share, meaning everyone is playing the "wait and see" game to see if 3d will take off or will die down.

    So to conclude

    - 3D is great
    - 3D is expensive
    - The joy of 3D on a small screen is yet to be discovered
     
  16. Ruckus

    Ruckus Notebook Deity

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    It's not even 3D. It's just two images, there isn't any actual depth or volume, especially from top and bottom. Not even sure why they call it 3D since it's not. Just 2 2D images on top of each other, that doesn't make it 3D at all, 3rd dimension doesn't exist here.

    Your eyes are telling you the truth. The eye strain, for some sense of nausea etc. Because it's not 3D... Compound that with less color, on average 30% less and less detail. Both movies and games, 2D is sharper, and more vivid. As others call this "3D" a gimmick, I would agree. Something that claims to be something it's not with less quality, I call that a gimmick.
     
  17. <MarkS>

    <MarkS> Notebook Village Idiot

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    How far is that from the way human eyes work?
     
  18. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    3rd dimension will never exist unless it's real life... Hologram is still a picture that is mirrored and focused onto a steam of smoke or a curved screen.

    I agree, there are some people that get eye fatigue when watching 3D, because it uses a process where your brain keeps interpreting the depth of field that not there.

    I have no idea how you wrote this statement... 3D actually has more detail... it brings a 3d dimension into play... 2D can never do that.

    The colors I agree with, I mean sure the current problem is that the stereoscopic glasses feel darker because of the shuttering lcd screen. But I actually only noticed this problem when I'm watching something with indoor lights blinding me and reflecting on my screen, so the glasses felt they darkened the screen quite abit.


    How do you want the 3d exactly? other than the fact that you can go to war then you'll really feel the "immersion" and bullets go waving... 3D will, for the next 10 years will still be out of a 2D surface.

    If you think 3D is a gimmick, then you can call cameras a gimmick, and computers a gimmick, because all these are suppose to recreate our brains and our eyes but they do it at a much less quality.
     
  19. Ruckus

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    I'll keep it short. 3D is still 2D. It's 2 images imposed on one another to create an "illusion" of 3D. This illusion is difficult for most people's vision to adjust to causing headache and nausea. This only tells you it's not 3D since you don't get nausea or headache at looking at 3D. The recommended screen size for 3D from 3D TV manufacturers is also 50" to fill your vision with best artificial effects. So I do not think 15" would be adequate anyways. Not only that, details and colors are washed out.

    Don't mind if you disagree with me. But I don't think 3D is worth the money right now and it's not worth the nausea and headache I get. I don't see any value in getting a massive headache.
     
  20. MKnight

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    Hey everyone,

    I just wanted to add a little bit to the discussion (based on my own experience).

    I recently bought an A51JX-3DE and I must tell you that 3d just adds a different dimension to games... the experience was/is like nothing I had experienced before. A lot depends on the actual software (on how well it supports the 3d effect). One of the best implementations that I've seen so far was in Batman Arkham Asylum.

    Before I bought my laptop I had been to Best Buy and had seen the Aliens and Monsters 3d demo, and I was not as impressed as I was when I got my 3d laptop. I think that one of the cool things about gaming on a 3d laptop is that you're a bit closer to the action and you actually feel like reaching out for things or dodging them... (as somebody else had already mentioned).

    Unfortunately I had to return my laptop cause it had a problem with the HDMI port (and like others I also wanted to get FULL HD when in 2d mode - this was to be accomplished using an HDMI enabled HDTV).

    I'm looking forward to get this new model though (G53JW-3DE), after experiencing 3d gaming there is no going back (for me).

    There are a lot more things to consider and discuss regarding 3d but I'm currently at work so I can't go that much into detail (for exm performance hit when enabling 3d, known 3d issues like ghosting etc. The nausea effect did affect me at the beginning but with time it disappears - Nvidia even has an option of how intense the effect should be, the default is 15% (recommended by Nvidia while u get used to it).

    Buttom line is that I'm all for 3d gaming and I'm so glad Sony is also moving in that direction (I also have a PS3). If the 3d concept is appealing to you then you should at least give it a try (go to a friends house or something) and then make your own decision whether its something you like or not.
     
  21. fares93

    fares93 Newbie

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    hey guys,
    i just have a quick question ... i bought the g53jw and i noticed there was a "3d demo that comes with it " on the desktop screen , i was wondering if any of you might have figured out how to turn this on , it shows 2 seperated parts of the screen on the demo so im guessing it's something like a comparison between the 2d and the 3d vision but i still havent figured out how i could turn my glasses /configure something in order to make it work , anyone could give me a hand please ?
     
  22. manu72

    manu72 Notebook Consultant

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    iirc you have to set the 3d mode in the player options. then the player will start in full screen 3d mode, ofc if you enabled the 3d mode on your laptop