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    ASUS G73jh BestBuy Model Vent Mod!!!

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by forgottensoul82, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. forgottensoul82

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    Here I have pics to show what I have done to my laptop.

    The work done isn't the greatest but I like to be optimistic, in a way it does kinda look like my laptop got handled by a bear.
    At least my laptop runs 20degrees cooler running Mafia II with everything turned up "but" PhysX.

    Also, I noticed that there are instability problems on some games I've heard about and one of them that I play is GTA 4 and Mafia II (same graphics engine).
    The game will run just as good under-clocking the GPU to 650Mhz as opposed to the factory 700Mhz (which causes instability issues and lock-ups).
    AMD GPU tool for the Asus G73 is available online, search Google.

    The CPU & GPU fans are directly located beneath the grill mesh where you will find the 3 aux buttons on the left and power on right.
    The CPU fan takes in air flow from the top BUT, there is not enough clearance to even allow airflow from factory vents or openings (very little and I might add a POOR under paid Engineer should be smacked!).
    Adding vents above the CPU greatly increases it's ability to cool!.

    Unfortunately the GPU's fan draws air from the bottom. That problem is solved by adding vents on the back cover. The guy I had doing this used a heated torch rod used to melt. You don't wanna use a cutter of any kind to do this unless you want to break this thin cover in half.
    I figured if one side should have a vent, why not both?? It would look corny to just have it on one side (even though as I've stated already it looks cheaply done yes but, it solved the problem).

    Lastly, the bottom panel to access the HD, Mem..etc.
    That I had more vents added using a compressed sand blade.

    You will need a sanding tool or sharpener of some type to clean off the access mess and I'd suggest polishing off the vents on top above the fans so you don't cut yourself!
     

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    I've been underclocking my JH just to see what happens, and yeah - we can go down to 500mhz (instead of 700) and only lose a few frames per second.

    When you say it's a 20 degree drop - what are your temps at load? I get 77 core, 89 MemIO in starcraft 2 on high or ultra.
     
  3. forgottensoul82

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    here is a log from the AMD GPU TOOL from the last time I played Mafia II which was last night.

    00:12:55, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 82.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:12:56, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:12:57, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 82.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:12:58, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 82.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:12:59, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 76.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:00, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:01, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:02, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:03, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:04, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:05, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:06, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 82.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:07, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 82.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:08, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:09, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 82.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:10, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 82.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:11, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.000, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:12, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 75.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 83.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:13, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 76.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 84.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:14, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 76.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 84.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:15, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 76.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 84.500, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
    00:13:16, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 0 [0] (C) = 76.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 1 [0] (C) = 84.000, ASIC Temperature via internal TSS 2 [0] (C) = 77.500, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 1000.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 649.89
     
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    o.o
    What have you done to that poor laptop?!
     
  5. forgottensoul82

    forgottensoul82 Notebook Enthusiast

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    (Turned it into a rebel) >:^)

    that's a question I will have to answer for it after I parish... until then, I'm happy it's not striking a fever anymore :)
     
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    This. O_O Poor G73. D:
     
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    Tisk Tisk, it's something Asus should have thought of before I did.

    If I had things my way and I was CEO of Asus Inc., I would have fired the engineers who developed this laptop.

    yes, it does look sad but, on the bright side.... wounds heal and what doesn't kill you ..... ?

    ....makes you stronger :)
     
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    That is amazing, but i would never do that to this baby
     
  9. forgottensoul82

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    Yes I would agree but, if Asus didn't do it - I had to! Shun Asus! Shun!!!!
     
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    Wouldnt drilling holes have looked better, more symmetric and cleaner? lol interesting though...I wonder how you'd design a laptop from scratch o_O
     
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    ...hey, it's not about the body... it's what's under the hood ;)

    Also, I need an app that can record video footage of the screen while I'm playing Mafia II.

    I'd like to post a link to YouTube to show the game settings and running the computer as it is now.

    It would be nice. I'm just camera shy and cannot stand my voice. Bleh!
     
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    @forgottensoul82:

    1) I hope you never have to RMA your machine, or at least get an extra-special tech.

    2) I run cooler temps with an 825/1070 overclock playing Mafia II and no added vents.
     
  14. forgottensoul82

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    RMA, not worried about it.... if I want to buy another laptop better than this one i can walk into a Fry's Electronics when I'm near one and walk out tomorrow if I were in the location of one.

    825/1070??? , honestly I'd rather not try thanks. That is your machine, not mine.

    Mafia II runs much more stable with a simple under-clock.

    I tried overclocking to 725 and started getting black shapes and weird glitches. That was before I even posted this Thread.

    Thanks but, I'm down with my own settings TUVM.
     
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    Oops, meant 815/1075, but that's OK. :)

    Max temps:

    TSS0: 73.5C
    TSS1: 74.5C
    TSS2: 73.5C

    You should have considered a proper repaste job than a ventilation mod. The G73 cooling system works off of temperature convection from the front/top to rear. :)
     
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    I have respect for your bravery for doing that mod...but honestly, that thing just looks nasty.
     
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    just fyi, That maybe true but, not every G73 was manufactured properly. There might have been 2 identical G73's lined up with mine, those two out of the 3 were made fine and mine just doesn't cool enough. The vents have helped and I did the 825/1075 and the FPS is incredibly outstanding :D
    I will try 815/1075.

    Thx for the advice.

    2 Questions?

    1) How do I keep the settings for the Overclock permanent unless I want to change it manually?
    2) Do you know what app i can use to video record "in-game" play?

    Ha Ha Ha! Right it does but! I love it! It's like adopting an abused pit bull from an animal shelter.

    It may look scary but inside it's dying for some F.P.S. (Like Counterstrike Source).

    "Boom Headshot!"
     
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    You don't mind not being covered by warranty if your machine conks out for some random reason?

    Brave man.
     
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    Nope and ty
     
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    I use a modded vBIOS with Overdrive enabled. (Available in my sig) This unlocks a tab in CCC for overclocking.

    You can use an app like FRAPS to record video play. Here's an example of a vid I made playing Darksiders on my desktop @ 5870 x 1080, using FRAPS to record, then I encoded the vid to XVID to compress the filesize.
     
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    I read Gary's tiring blog on modding the BIOS.

    is there an easier way to flash like from Windows 7 with your mod?

    Holy crap! That sword is wicked! It like, sucks in the souls of your victims. hm, interesting.
     
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    It's actually really easy, there is a kit (by mike, I think) that will do the entire flash drive setup for you.

    What ever happened to the Forge Mod eXtreme? Trading up for a holey one?
     
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    I downloaded your vBIOS mod and extracted all files to a MicroSD card & external USB WD HD.
    Do I need a specific usb flash drive?

    I don't own one, I was trying to boot from my HTC Glacier, boot menu recognized my phone but the files I extracted weren't bootable.

    I tried using my External WD HD and that flunked.

    I'm tired.

    UPDATE: okay, so I missed the part where you need to use the provided HP tool to make a bootable USB drive.... Let me try that with my HTC Glacier off.

    LAST UPDATE: okay, so I guess I will have to go buy a USB jump drive then?

    I need to know, is there a specific brand/model that will only work for this boot deal?
    The rest is self-explanatory and I can figure out myself.
    The micro SD crap I tried and the external WD HD didn't work.
     
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    Sold to a guy. I think it's now Hye Mod Extreme.

    And it's not Forge Mod Extreme quite yet. I only switched out my hard drives and drilled it. I need a new CPU and probably more RAM. but I don't need it, so I guess there will be no FMX.
     
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    I honestly don't remember seeing anything so ridiculous in such a long time. Poor laptop, it deserved better.. :(
     
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    When I saw this, I just said.. "Oh my God 0_o This is pure brute force :), it looks like it was beaten hard by a tiger or cheetah"

    Anyway I'm amazed with your bravery. I just want to hug my G73JH and tell her that I'm so happy that didn't happened to her :)
     
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    Although the idea is a decent one, the follow through looks horrific. I wish whoever did that would have taken some extra time, a marker, and a ruler to make it appear factory or at least symmetrical. I used a soldering iron to cut some plastic on my truck bed liner and it came out pretty good (just an idea if someone wants to duplicate this MOD).

    To each their own though. If you are happy then I am happy for you!
     
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    That is why you aren't an engineer and your comment for them to be fired is ridiculous.

    They placed the vents to create a static flow which you actually screwed up. The way the fans are placed and designed draw the air correctly through the entire laptop. So now other parts of the laptop just have air not being moved correctly. The GPU and CPU detect the chips themselves and not the supporting parts so the sensors won't let you know. The engineers knew what they were doing and had to design it to make all of the laptop work correctly.

    A repaste or even blowing out the vents for dust could have gotten you a 1-2C improvement. You should have looked into getting more powerful fans even if they are louder.
     
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    LOL Well yeah, airflow is important. Likely he just had bad contact between the fans and the heatsink, so having free flowing air is actually MORE effective in his situation.

    And kudos to him for fixing it on his own!
     
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    When I saw the first photo I said 'well its a work in progress it may get better at the end, but come on, in the last photos it apears a bear, a lion, a tiger, and a sea lion had an all-nighter over this laptop.

    Don't get me wrong, I admire your determination and courage, but was it really necesary? Is the gain that much for you?

    Maybe i'm a freak when it relates to the condition of my g73, but men, it really hurts to see.
     
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    Do you know where the fans and heatsinks are located? They use heatsinks with heat pipes leading to the fan. The two fans in the rear are responsible for the airflow. He should have gotten more powerful fans instead of hacking up his laptop. He just dove in and didn't research. The static flow that the ASUS engineers created is very important and affects all the components on the motherboard.

    I'm a little skeptical on his results of 3-4C. That difference can be attributed to lower ambient temperatures in the room. That is why destroying his laptop was unnecessary because the vents aren't the problem. The fans are a bit underpowered and changing those out could see some really good results.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Well I guess with all the crap this guy is getting from everyone I doubt if he does do anything else he will post about it. I wonder how many more people are going to chastise him before the thread is closed.
     
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    To each his own i guess. If he's happy with his work then im happy for him. I personally would not of went about it the same way. Also, if you wanted to replace all those parts its possible. maybe a few hundred dollars.
     
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    shoe3k: he's claiming a 20C drop in temps, not 3-4C
     
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    Wow... that's what I call hardcore! XD
     
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    yes, that is correct. no heart ache by all the torturous condescending comments left here by others who don't own my laptop. Why do they care anyway? Though every laptop with the same model number and name aren't always assembled perfectly, mine just ended up having a heat problem and I fixed it.

    -Chastity-

    I finally got the BIOS update you made installed using a PNY jump drive. I'm discouraged though that overclocking with the settings you gave me causes brief 5-10 second lag in certain parts of Mafia II. Did you have this problem? Other than that, the game runs a lot smoother and better and the GPU Core runs a little cooler as well.

    Is there a way to fix that lag problem?
     
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    Check your temps, it might be too high causing the GPU to throttle the clocks so it can cool down.
     
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    The hottest it is reaching is 84.5C and thats in a heated room of around 80deg f.

    I wanna say it almost looks like a glitch because it only happens at certain times like when im robbing a clothing store or at intersections driving moderately.

    Doesnt happen really anywhere else other then intersections (while driving) and in confined areas like indoors.
     
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    Well, I will have to say that the case mods are definitely GHETTO, and if you really want to fix your heating issues, you will still need to repaste.
     
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    :laugh: Freakin hilarious, since the mod supposedly fixed "a heat problem".

    Definitely an ambitious mod just to get average temps :)
     
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    I can't fathom why people feel they can insult other people handling their own property as they please...

    Thanks for posting the pics forgottensoul82, very entertaining.
     
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    I've never seen G73 replacement fans.... Not any high speed ones anyway, only OEM ones. Care to share?
     
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    It might've helped with idle and moderate tasks, but you know a good repaste is needed to lower temps when the GPU is under 90-100% load. :)
     
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    j00zl33t Notebook Consultant

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    Wow forgottensoul82,

    Brave man...but in all honesty, it looks like it just had an encounter with the bay harbor butcher. Not an insult really, just speaking my mind. Also, the temps you've mentioned seemed like average temps to me. I play in a 78-81F room and accdng to GPU-Z, i max at 85c on 3hrs of GTA4 @ med-high settings. Played other games for longer periods as well and GPU-Z has never topped 85c which is surprising since my idle temps have been slightly increasing the past 45 days. From 53c now at 55/56c. Probably just some dust collecting. As far as repasting, i'll wait till I hit Chastity's warning temps.

    Speaking of repaste, I was wondering if you considered maybe the use of an air can or a repaste prior to executing this mod?

    All in all, you said yourself that there is in fact an improvement in temps, so in all technicality did mod does work, so more power to ya. Though I would never go to drastic measures with my g73.
     
  45. mindinversion

    mindinversion Notebook Evangelist

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    You know, with a little dark speaker grille cloth and a hot glue gun, you could cover the. . ahhh. . .non standard hole configuration, have your ventilation and keep the sleekness of the intended design.
     
  46. forgottensoul82

    forgottensoul82 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I understand Chastity, "it does" look 'GHETTO' but les not double cross shall we? I have already stated it looks like crap! Amazing how you suddenly went bi-polar on me and ignored any of my further quotes directed at you!

    As for the glitches in Mafia II, I believe sincerely it is a driver issue and I am currently looking online for a modded driver, possibly Catalyst 10.9a, not sure.

    Going by your suggested overclock settings only averages Mafia II about +5 more fps, (not that big of an improvement if I really wanted to see change).

    I appreciate your prior suggestions and advice before you decided to cave.

    I can only guess that it is in your own best interest to not put you at the feet of others here who have posted confusing and confrontational insults.
     
  47. xdrekx

    xdrekx Notebook Guru

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    Wow thats terrible, i think ill pass on destorying my $1300 laptop. Also i dont understand how you people are having heat issues, mine runs smooth and at low temps all the time. Try cleaning out your fan once in a while lol
     
  48. forgottensoul82

    forgottensoul82 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Surely, I will never buy an Asus laptop ever again with an ATI GPU unless it is running both AMD and ATI.

    I liked the deal at Best Buy, so I bought it. I researched the laptop and the GPU and etc... and I found it to be best bang for buck, so I could keep more money in the bank.

    I am considering buying a laptop, either an Asus with nVidia or something else within a decent price range, (best bang for buck).

    hm, lucky for you! You got a golden egg! Unfortunately, I didn't!

    Asus is aware of the manufacture defect, which is primarily the factory paste for the GPU/Heatsink.

    My laptop should run about the same temps as yours even though I do not know what yours are.
     
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    xfinrodx Notebook Enthusiast

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    I actually appreciated the pictures... Sparked my mind a little in ways it has only thought about desktop modifications. Looks like some of my earliest desktop case modifications too, but I'll bet that if you keep messing with laptop cases, finding better, cleaner methods of modifying the case... You could be onto something kind of neat.

    A cooling system does need to keep moisture, fingers & foreign objects out. If you shirk that concern, you can likely improve a design. I'm still waiting to see the fabled "high speed fans" alluded to a couple pages back...

    -On a personal note, I was really impressed with how you were totally keeping your cool while people were being tools. I was a little surprised and disappointed with your latest replies! Nothing infuriates a troll (or a pack of trolls) more than someone who just laughs at their idiocy, giving no regard or value to their thoughts and opinions in my experience. I hope you do more laptop case mods in the future, I hope you gain skill in it, and I hope you can laugh at the losers who would try to dissuade you from it in future attempts!
     
  50. forgottensoul82

    forgottensoul82 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Next, I want to look into flashing the GPU Bios. Reading from another site, someone suggests flashing the GPU Bios.

    I've done it before back when I had a GeForce 3 Ti200 on my desktop back in 2002.

    Haven't done it to any other since.

    That flashing the Bios will fix glitch problems
     
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