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    ASUS G752

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by W4rrioR, Aug 27, 2015.

  1. W4rrioR

    W4rrioR Notebook Enthusiast

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    Update 1:
    So ASUS G752 was officially announced at IFA 2015.
    Available models: G752VY, G752VT, G752VL

    Specs of G752VY (the most poweful one) :

    Processor: Intel Core i7-6700HQ/i7-6820HK Quad-Core (TBD)
    OS: Windows 10
    Memory: Up to 64 GB DDR4 2133 MHz
    Display: Anti-glare 17.3" FHD/UHD IPS with G-SYNC
    (1920x1080 / 3840x2160)
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 4/8 GB

    Other specs:

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    Links:
    ASUS Press Release
    Anandtech (specs)
    Notebookcheck.com (DE; specs)
    Digitaltrends.com (hands-on video, photos)
    pcper.com (specs)


    Original post:
    OK, people. Let's talk G752.
    There have already been a few leaks so let's put the info together.

    The new models are called G752VY and G752VT
    (equipped with GTX 980m and GTX 970m, respectively).
    They can also be found as GFX72VY and GFX72VT.

    Some leaked specs:

    Processor: Intel Core i7-6820HK/6700HQ (Skylake)
    OS: Windows 10
    Memory: DDR4 RAM, up to 32 GB
    Display: 17.3" Full HD IPS WV anti-glare
    GPU: GTX 980M 4GB GDDR5/ GTX 970M 3 GB GDDR5

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    I am a bit disappointed by these specs so far. I expected G752VY to have the much speculated :) GTX 990m or at least GTX 980m with 8GB/6GB VRAM.

    I haven't found it mentioned anywhere, but I hope that G752 will have official G-SYNC support.

    Looks like the only changes from G751 are Windows 10 out of the box, DDR4 RAM and Skylake processors. I am no expert, but from what I read the DDR4 RAM in these laptops won't make any real difference in gaming and the Skylake processors are not much more powerful than previous generation of Intel processors.

    And of course the new design. On the renders it looks great (imo), on the photos not so much. But I think that the photos don't do it justice and it would look better on photos taken with a better camera and in better lighting. And maybe people at ASUS managed to improve the cooling.
     
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    The chassis looks to be about the same dimensions, so the motherboard is probably pretty similar which explains the lack of 6/8GB on the cards. To be honest I think those VRAM amounts are completely unnecessary though.

    The design is pretty slick. It looks like they've gone with brushed metal instead of the soft rubber? Hard to tell.
     
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    If that's the same keyboard as the G751, I'll be really disappointed. It loos like they removed/changed some of the stupid key layout, but kept the same colour/backlight colour. The keyboard is hard to make out, even with the backlight at max brightness in a dark room.
     
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    G752 is pretty much a refresh for G751. The 990M apparently has a newly design chassis, not sure how it looks like.


    Boring boring Chelsea
     
  6. W4rrioR

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    Looks like G752 is going to be officially announced pretty soon.
    [​IMG]


    I hope you are right, but there have already been a few games with crazy ( >4GB ) VRAM requirements and I have a bad feeling that in the near future it will only be getting worse. Reasons being PS4+Xbox One with that shared memory pool of theirs and lazy PC ports of games developed primarily for these consoles.

    If they don't have anything up their sleeve for the official announcement, then yep... pretty much a refresh of G751. :(
     
  7. JehutyZeroshift

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    Too bad, battery seems to be not user replaceable. I'm itching to replace my G73JH already, though I'll let the money sit on stocks for now :p
     
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    Based on their press release it has a dust-release cooling system, and overclocked cpu n gpu right out the box.
     
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    I think its a well redesigned sequel/refresh of the g751. I think their engineers actually listened to the complaints they had on the g751. The record key is moved a few inches to the center so it won't be accidentally pressed when u use esc button. People would say it takes a lot to disassemble and clean the fans, hence they have a new dust removal cooling system. Most people would say it is inferior to build quality to alien's so they used an aluminum chassis and a touch of led lights. The only similar to it with the g751 is the graphics card 980m, but it would already be a overclocked gpu right from the box. Still we never know, they might actually use the new 990m gpu, its scheduled to come out in the nex few days/weeks/months.
    A boring refresh for me is the AW17r3
     
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    You can't really release a product when a GPU is not out yet of course ;)
     
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    Yep thats y they never said anythin wat gpu will be used with the gx700. Well obviously after the Hasee's CEO slip of the tongue, we now know a 990m is gearing for a launch :)
     
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    Oh I think any GPUs that may or may not be released soon would be quite fun ;)
     
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    Click the fastforward remote please! Hehe :)
     
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    @Snakedoc21
    You summed the advantages of the new design up very well. :) Yes, after the IFA presentation I agree with you about the new design - one can see that it's a step in the right direction from G751. The dust-release cooling system sounds great. I hope it works well.

    But their built-in components aren't so much different, imo. Both have G-sync monitors and as far as I know DDR4 memory doesn't make much difference for gaming. Skylake processor is just a minor upgrade too.
    The overclocking potential of CPU and GPU is nice, but you will have to point me at the part where they say that CPU+GPU are going to be overclocked out of the box.

    However I will probably buy a G752VY as a replacement for my G73SW. I am looking for a replacement for quite some time now and I would most likely already own a G751JY, if the G-sync version was being sold in my country. (Since the announcement of G-sync for laptops I don't want a machine without it :) ) I was also partly holding off because of 4GB VRAM (reasons are mentioned above).

    I hope that they will sell a G752VY model with 8 GB GTX 980M and i7-6820HK, but without the 4K screen (hardware today still isn't ready for 4K gaming). The lack of a Blu-ray drive (DVD drive is enough for me in a notebook), lack of a built-in SSD and 16 GB (or maybe 8 GB) RAM would also be nice to keep the final price lower.
    The best would be to let everyone to choose their desired components, but that's not going to happen... unfortunately. The deal breaker for me is the 4K screen. If they won't offer a G752VY with FullHD screen in my region, I will have to pass.

    I doubt that G752 will include GTX 990M. I think it will be only in GX700.
     
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    @W4rrioR
    Yep same here im replacing my g750jw with this beast, good thing this came out cz i was goin to buy the g751jy gsync this month. :) Ur right the 980m will be for g752 nd 990m will be for gx700 (thats y they left out the gpu spec partfor gx770 in their pressrelease)

    The overclocking part was mentioned in the asus press release video the part where grubby was interviewed by one of their execs. ;)

    All we can do now is wait painstakingly for the coming out of this badboys. Still, we never know also what MSI nd alienware are cooking right now for the holiday season. :)
     
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    @Snakedoc21

    Thanks! Found the mention about G752 being overclocked out of the box.
    Must have missed it in the live stream, because it was buffering all the time and skipping parts of video.
    That's great news. Maybe G752 will be at least a bit noticeable performance bump compared to G751 after all. I hope that the new cooling system is also improved and can keep the higher temps down.

    Yep, right - painstakingly. :D Also Acer has introduced new Predator gaming laptops. There may be a lot to choose from. :)
     
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    I admit I have never been an Asus laptop fan but when I read about this machine earlier in the week I was pleased with excitement as they are trying to deliver some things that consumers are asking for which will keep the competitors in check. Can't wait to see some performance with the HK and any of the GPU variants offered.
     
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    I think Asus already perfected their cooling system, with my g750 runs pretty cool and the new g751 reviews were awesome. No doubt they improve it further in this next gen.
    Ur ryt with ur previous post, i hope the VY wont go past the $2000 mark. I also rather get the FHD coz in one video they said the 4k it can run 40-50 fps ( note: not mentioning any games).

    What im excited now is how the other g752 will look like coz it says there are 3 color variants in them.

    Here's one in a wallpaper of a youtube video, i think this will be the lava red
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    The cooling system is usually pretty solid in the G75x series, though I personally think the G750 system was stronger than the G751.
     
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    @Snakedoc21
    Yeah, I am curious about the color variants too.
    Agreed, I also think this could be the Lava Red one:
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    I hope one one of them looks exactly like the one in this pic:
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    No red illuminated logo on the back (I like this silver-colored one better). Also the black exhaust without the red light inside and the orange vertical lines on the sides of the ROG logo not illuminated. This would be my color scheme of choice.

    But the ones shown at IFA:
    [​IMG]
    had a red ROG logo (not illuminated?), illuminated vertical orange lines and a red light between the rear fans.

    Those are three variations so far, but the differences between them are subtle.
    I am not sure if those first two pics (in this post) aren't just work-in-progress drafts.

    We will have to wait and see.
     
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    Stock photos like that may be of prototypes or touched up for marketing of course so are not always the most reliable. See the titan-x that showed a green glow around the fan.
     
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    The orange Version with the silver logo looks sweet.
    Im glad ASUS didnt create such a slim notebook like Gigabyte, MSI, AW and co. As a gaming Laptop its fine for me to have a thicker and heavier laptop!
    Temperatures and noise will be pretty awesome again on the G752 (just like its predecessors).
    Also the changes made seem to be pretty wise: They didnt change that much overall (Design, G-Sync always on board, Win10, Skylake) and the new dust release system (whatever this will be).
     
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    From my assessment the new Acer predator seems like a good competitor, they include officially stated "metal blades" for the fan system, as we all know a plastic fan is nothing compared to a metal one that's pointing at our face in the summer....that being said Asus have the most effective cooling system i have ever seen in a notebook to date so i think acer have not done proper research and learnt that vents underneath the notebook for air are not actually whats best....well have to wait and see actual usage numbers

    I think Acer will lack in System options where Asus will not, being the processor options and Ram , even the graphics as i have seen snippets of information pointing to a 990m on the gx700 series

    In terms of the Asus new G752 and GX700 design, i actually like the dark black/grey against red look they had on the G752 models, this color scheme is a good reserved yet feisty layout.....being all bright Armour and orange in your face is not actually giving it that "pro" look i feel, a bit childish ...if they do infact offer the Red and Armour in more sinister darker tone close to the previous models then booya! they have bought me.

    Another issue is the GX700 from the photos we can see the vents are allot smaller compared to the G752.....is the fan cooling going to be less of a performer here as this specific high end model rely's on a liquid cooling system to overclock the gpu (not sure about cpu coverage)?. As the GX700 series is boasting even higher specs...can we as actual users enjoy the high end specs and cool temperatures running demanding applications and day to day usage as we did in the g751 without the need to use the bulky water cooling system...besides "overclocking" heavy maxed out gaming.

    If anyone knows about the sager notebooks, they are desktop replacement laptops, and their cooling system is a shared copper pipe and fan based layout....the benefit of this, more assistance in dissipating the heat of the "overall" temps within the notebook. This is also good for outside of gaming when doing other things on the notebook that would ramp up the cpu demand/temps as it would be twice as effective in keeping the notebook cool....this is the only way sager is "currently" able to sustain using desktop processors, ie: Intels i7 4790k processor in their notebooks.


    My conclusion....1. A laptop with a cooling system like asus (no holes or vents underneath the notebook, relying on sucking the air in from the top of the notebook and through the edges, thus actually bringing in the coolest air. whilst brushing past all areas of the motherboard and not just the location of the fan to the cpu/gpu, cooling everything)

    2. A laptop with Sagers Joint copper pipe and fan system

    3. Laptops with maybe a bit more build customization like the xbox from example...order any colour clip on and off extra for the grill, outline etc etc

    4. A build in underneath stand to improve viewing degree and notebook stature... ( i actually like the angle of the asus g751 gives due the NECESSARY and COOL bulky backside")

    5. Motherboards that support desktop processors lol


    Cooling is going to be my decider, i am holding out to buy one of these new showcased models at the max spec....but if i see temps i dont like or any compensation for quality, il hold off untill next years second round of releases as they always do....

    I also forgot to mention, is it me or has asus made the distance of the screen higher with that larger empty panel consisting with the asus brand name on the bottom of the screen.....that was the first thing i noticed and found it reminding me of very very old win 95 laptops with these large cheap plastic frames around the tiny screen lol....they need to bridge that empty space, its a "Turn off"
     
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    I have so many design ideas for notebooks, its a shame i dont have my own factory lol

    Theres a reason the original xbox took off so well....
    Theres a reason the first iphones took off so well
    there is a reason even the early asus rog's took off very well compared to the current market
    There.s a reason things sell, and why companies constantly let that reason go is beyond me.....you know when a products consumer friendliness changes, is when that company changes the thinktank for the next line of products ....its evident whoever had the say on these original releases were replaced or over-ruled...proof is in the product

    When you know what the buyer really wants....the relationship is unbreakable...people will even buy from you out of loyalty even if you already have them based on your awesome products.

    Products need to reflect the people...all people....and what really is worth every penny...or cent! for you guys across the waters lol

    i am at a stage of "slight" disappointment when seeing these new laptops being showcased....it is So easy what these guys need to change and add and also minus....how can they not see it!!!

    Keep any eye out people, do post updates if you hear any further news on things
     
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    I don't think the consumer friendliness of the asus ROG line has really changed much.
     
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    Pretty much the only reason I'm hesitant to by an Asus laptop. Scared it's gonna have problems like the previous models which have had alot of and I won't be able to get it fixed.
     
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    Then don't rush in and wait for reviews, then the product will speak for itself :)
     
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    I don't know if that will change. They've always had quality control problems. The left USB ports have been problematic on many models in the past. ASUS is a lottery - if you get a machine without problems you're set. Otherwise return it asap, because you don't want to have to deal with ASUS support.
     
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    I don't know. Kind of concerned it'll take off when the fans rev up.

    ..maybe I can use it to dry clothes with if I bolt it down.
     
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    Asus have always gone for decent sized fans so they don't have to work so hard ;)
     
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    yeah but i think the 2nd pic actually looks like the 3rd pic only the lights are not on. i don't think the first pic (which i like) will not come out. I think it won't be practical for them to release 3 different colors. But it would be nice though if all three in the pic will come out. I just realized it said it starts at 1499… meaning if the VL version will start at 1499, how much will the VY reach? T_T i think alienware is much cheaper than Asus ROG and MSI dominator because u can haggle for the price. U just buy a base alienware 17 r3 980m and haggle the price, and install the SSD and RAM by yourself, it'll be hundreds cheaper than ROG premium build VY 980m's. Not to mention you'll also get a 5% rewards back in dell for your purchase. If Asus will break the $2k barrier when it comes out, i might go for the alienware instead =(
     
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    wish the stock photo will come out. but yeah ur right, it will cost their company lots of money if they release different variant in colors with these machines.
     
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    I could see one or two colours being ok, just not designs.
     
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    I read somewhere release date is gonna be on sept 27, but we'll see. Not getting my hopes up though.
     
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    Soon (TM) is the official date ;)
     
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    Any reason why the g752VY is 9.6 lbs and the lower VT/VL are 8.9lbs? Is it the new all metal skin?
    Isn't the G751 8.4lbs? The g752 looks amazing, but close to 10lbs minus the psu is pretty heavy.
     
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    C'mon dude just a lil hint on specific release date or pricing wud be great. I know u got some infos cz ur a comp rep hehe :)
     
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    Well we can save on gym membership f we carry it around hehe
     
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    Based on the observation by @danijelzi and post by @Meaker (thank you both) and after reading the press release again I am starting to doubt that there are going to be any color variations other than the one shown at IFA. ASUS is probably using the words Plasma Copper, Armor Titanium, and Lava Red to describe their new color and design direction. Guess I got it wrong. :( G752 is going to be all-glowy and screaming "I AM A GAMING LAPTOP!!!" all around... (a drawback for me, but I can live with it if they offer the right configuration for the right price /<2000/ ;) )

    Nice observations @Bruce Wayne. I agree with you, cooling is very important. No one wants a powerful desktop replacement laptop that throttles all the time because of high temps.

    Some time ago I had a look at these custom gaming notebooks like Sager, Clevo and others, but I can't buy them directly in my country (in Central Europe) so I would have a problem with enforcing the standard 2-year warranty if anything went wrong. And they are also pretty expensive.

    @Snakedoc21 As a matter of fact ASUS offered the best lower-priced gaming laptop configurations so far where I live. While Alienware and MSI also had their cheaper models, only ASUS made cuts at the right places. E.g. they didn't change CPU or GPU for a slower one, but offered models with less RAM, DVD-only drive and no SSD. As you said, more RAM and an SSD can be additionally bought for cheaper if needed. I am aware that these cheaper configurations are not sold all over the world and are region-specific, but these are the models I choose from. All over the world everyone has different models to choose from. And I really hope ASUS is going to offer a G752VY configuration where they keep the 6820HK and 8GB GTX 980M, but only offer a 1080p screen, a DVD-drive, 8/16 GB of RAM and also exclude the new expensive NVME SSDs.

    And @Snakedoc21 I didn't realize it too that the 1499 starting price is meant for the VL version. :( That doesn't sound good. The $2k (or 2k €) barrier is the point where I start to think it's too much for a laptop...


    I hope the Sept 27 release date is right, because I can't wait for new info and for actually getting a new laptop.

    Let's hope for the best (... and soonest :D ).
     
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    I think it is legit, there is hundreds of sites on google selling them, saying they are incoming and should be here before october 4th, and you can even pre-order on websites. The ONE big disappointment to me, is if this is real, those prices are outrageous. There would no reason to order nearly the same hardware for 3000 dollars vs the old model of 2100 dollars.
     
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    Yeah i know its too overpriced. Much more there is already a gtx 980 mobile version for notebooks. http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/09/22/notebooks/
     
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    I have found a few region-specific G752VY configurations from various e-shops. I copied their specs and prices so we can compare them in one place. The prices can change or can be simply incorrect (some of these specs/prices were online before the G752 was even officially announced) so take them with a grain of salt. New configurations are probably going to pop up in the upcoming days/weeks, this is just an overview of the current offers:

    G752VY-T7049T
    specs:
    i7-6820HQ 32GB RAM 512GB SSD 1TB HDD GTX980 4GB Blu-Ray
    prices:
    3051,63 € - 3108,58 €
    £2040.85 - £2347.14

    G752VY-DH72
    specs:
    i7-6700HQ 32GB RAM 128GB SSD 1TB 7200RPM GTX980M 4GB Blu-Ray
    prices:
    ~$3000.00
    $3598.99 - $2.982 CAD

    G752VY-DH78K
    specs:
    i7-6820HK 64GB RAM 512GB SSD 1TB 7200RPM GTX980M 8GB Blu-Ray
    prices:
    $3095.52 USD
    $3849.00 - $4877.95 CAD

    G752VY-GC067T-BE
    specs:
    i7-6700HQ 16GB RAM 128GB/256GB SSD 1TB 7200RPM GTX980M 8GB SM-DVD
    prices:
    2279,65 € - 2391,57 €

    G752VY-GC081T (only one web)
    specs:
    i7-6700HQ 16GB RAM 256GB SSD 1TB 7200RPM
    prices:
    16.649,00 DKK

    G752VY-GC159T (only one web)
    specs:
    i7-6820HK 32GB RAM 128GB SSD 2TB 5400RPM GTX980М 4GB

    G752VY-GC161T (only one web)
    specs:
    i7-6700HQ 24GB RAM 128GB SSD 2TB 5400RPM GTX980М 4GB

    G752VY-GC162T (only one web)
    specs:
    i7-6700HQ 16GB RAM 256GB SSD 1TB 7200RPM GTX980М 4GB


    Those 2K+ and especially 3K+ or 4K+ prices are ridiculous... What are we paying extra for (compared to lower-priced G751JY)? Metal body, NVME M.2 SSDs, DDR4 RAM ? I bet some of us would happily miss out on some of these new expensive gimmicks (that make no real difference in gaming right now) to keep the price lower. Also no configurations so far without a built-in SSD. Or is ASUS charging new extra for these new ROG products (slowly becoming Apple with their uber premium prices)? I am not sure. :confused: And if G752 is so expensive how much will the GX700 cost?

    I also contacted one of my local e-shops and asked for some info about G752VY. I was told they should be available (at least for pre-ordering) in early October. And also that prices are going to be very high... So I guess no cheaper configurations with lower RAM, no SSD and no BluRay writer will appear...

    We will see in the upcoming weeks. But with the prices this high I will be forced to consider notebooks of other brands (not happy about that though, I am satisfied with ASUS products so far...). Or I might as well ditch the portability altogether and build a desktop. I am willing to pay extra for a high-end gaming laptop, but there is a limit...
     
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    Yeah it's too expensive. I might be replacing my g750 wid another brand if thats d case. They shud sell it competitively.
     
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    That's beyond crazy-sauce. I'd rather just buy a reduced price g751jy with similar performance.
     
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    I would wait until launch to be certain of any specs/prices.
     
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    Darn, this thing will be expensive!

    The cheapest model here will be the:
    G752VY-GC110D
    i7-6700HQ, FULLHD, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, GTX980 8GB, Freedos
    579.900 HUF (Subject to change) = ~2070 USD

    Thats ~320 USD higher than the current cheapest G751JY with G-Sync.
     
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    Like Meaker said, we can only wait and see. I'm hoping this new info is incorrect. That would stonewall a lot of potential new customers, for a product that doesn't offer a signifigsnt advantage over last year's model. You'll only get so far with a shiny new skin.
     
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    Yes until launch and all models revealed,you can't directly make a comparison. Also there may be SKUs that come later.
     
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