ASUS Rog GL502VS model numbers

Long story - short... I have decided to buy GL502VS from other Europe country, because where I live (Latvia) this laptop costs around 2000 Euro. So I have been searching some German pages, but there are a lot of versions like GL502VS-* GZ287* and many more..
Here's the link: https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?fs=ASUS+ROG+Strix+GL502VS&in=
So far the GZ287 is the cheapest one i have found. It has HQ7700 cpu and 120hz screen, these things are the ones that i'm looking for.. Everything great, right? Not really. This version have QWERTZ keyboard as far as I know. So just to be sure I asked one seller (company) and they approved. Okey so this model is not for me, because I'm looking for QWERTY keyboard layout and everything I mentioned above.

The question is, how can I know which models have QWERTY keyboard layout and 120hz display, even if it's not written in description, because it also can be a typo mistake. Maybe there are some informative pages where you can search model number and it shows what specific model has.

BTW, sorry for my English. I tried best I can

 

I don't think there's a way to tell. Those model numbers may very well be random for all I know.

 

You probably need to contact Asus support for a list of the models in your area(s) that have the QWERTY keyboard you want.

Or, keep doing what you are doing and keep asking. Build up a table of names / extensions, and see if there is a naming pattern.

It's not something we deal with in the US very often as QWERTY is standard.

You only have 1 sample name for the QWERT"Z" keyboard, but the extension / dash name GZ287 does have a "Z" in it.

Go from there

 

Thanks for suggestions hmscott!
I just emailed Asus support. Will keep this thread updated.

Have no idea how I didn't think about that Z letter in dash name. Long time ago, when I was searching for new TV there were the same thing. Ok, I will continue to search. Thank you once again

 

Best way to know, ask the seller everytime. Afaik Germany uses QWERTZ layout only, so you should probably purchase it from a different country. Asus support don't even know their own laptops.

 

You're right. I guess I'll just leave it where it is, because asus support just replyed that they don't have any information abut part numbers in EU country's. I have been looking now on MSI GS73VR 7RF with GTX 1060 and 120hz panel. Any thoughts how they work together? how's that MSI panel? I'm little uncertain that GTX 1060 couldn't run some games on 120hz. Sure that you can lower some settings, but overall maybe it isn't worth to pay extra just for 120hz panel if it's running 1060?

 

Good, now you can continue doing the research yourself, and verifying with the dealers directly

It's best to be sure by asking them to have the laptop box in their hands when reading the inventory sticker on the side of the box of the one they want to sell / ship you - even better, have them send you a photo of that sticker so you know what you are getting.

In the US we only get the GS73 4k 1060, no 120hz screen, that's saved for the GS73 Max-Q 1070... it maybe a better choice for you in your situation, it's at least a little faster than the 1060 - unless it costs too much more.

I wouldn't get a 4k screen, some like it scaled down to 1080p for gaming, some don't, but it's a lot more expensive. Some report battery life is less with a 4k screen too. Some report a yellow tint as well.

It's best if you can see the screen you are going to get before buying, if you can't see the display before buying, go for the one with more favorable reports.

Good luck

Here's the NBR GS73VR Owners group:

The Official MSI GS73VR Owners' Lounge
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-official-msi-gs73vr-owners-lounge.795277/

 

Are you sure the GS73VR 7RF comes with a 1080p screen and 120hz? 'Cause I can only find a 4K 60hz version of it.
I think the GS73VR 6RF is the only one with a 1080p 120hz screen.
Both come with the GTX 1060.

The screen on the 6RF is really good, 74.3% AdobeRGB and 100% sRGB, so it's nearly perfect.
The screen (4K) on the 7RF is less good (except for the resolution) and it creates weird artifacts when playing or just watching videos at 1080p.

GTX 1060 is not comfortable for 4K (but you can expect some games to run 30fps medium-low settings and indie ones at 60)
GTX 1060 is not enough for 120hz. Mostly of the time you can expect 50 to 85fps on current AAA titles at very high/max settings. There are some exceptions, such as Rainbow Six Siege at very high can even run 110fps so you should probably manage to get 120hz on that one. Maybe you can tweak something and get that on DOOM too, which is well optimized, but again, these are exceptions. Then you can probably run indie games like Rocket League at 120hz with no problem.

My suggestion:

- go for the 1080p, 120hz and gtx 1070
or
- go with the 4K, 60hz and gtx 1070
or
- just go for the 1080p, 60hz (or more) and gtx 1060

Other combinations are not worth imo.

 

Yup, both, the GS73VR 7RF and GS63VR 7RF have 120hz ( http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/comput...rf-17-3-gaming-laptop-black-10158969-pdt.html and http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/comput...laptop-black-10158971-pdt.html#rr_placement_1) Well it could also be a typo again, but i don't think so.

4K of course is great, but I don't want to pay that much. I'm not a big gamer, i just want to buy future proof laptop that can provide best experience with cheapest price. GTA V, Rust, CS Go, Dirt rally, some indie games would be my most played games, maybe some other.. Now I have 3 year old laptop with i3 4010U CPU and Nvidia GT720m Funny, that I can buy Asus GL502vs with 120hz from amazon.com for around 1800 Euros even with taxes, but in my country it costs 2100 Euros. The only thing that scares me is warranty.

There is petty much 4 choices for me now..

- Asus - GTX1070, 120hz, GSync - without taxes 1488 euros and 1800 euros with taxes from amazon.com. Those taxes are the biggest turn off and I can't bypass them.

- Both MSI's (above mentioned) - GTX1060, 120hz - around 1500 - 1600 euros with problematic shipping to Latvia because they don't deliver outside UK. I have to contact my friends cousins, and ask them to send it to me. I also have to call up them whisky or something like that for help.

- Lenovo y720 - 1060, 60hz - 1350 euros, but at least it is in my country and there is no warranty problems.

Some years ago I wouldn't imagine that some day I could spend that much money on just a computer. That's why I want to buy something max future proof so I don't have to think about it for a few years. Actually I don't need that. I could easy live with sh*ty computer, but there's that, that now I have some extra money and if i will not buy a laptop now, I might not buy it at all

 

My vote goes towards the Y720 if you don't need the overkill screen. If you DO need a high end screen - GL502. Warranty with gaming laptops is by far the most important thing. They tend to have more failure points than other laptops due to heat and design so having the extra assurance that someone will fix any issues for 1-2 years is invaluable.

 

I'd go for the Asus.

The Lenovo history with "spying", pushing it and getting caught 4 times in a row over several years, along with US State Department and Pentagon warnings about Lenovo and Huawei, ZTE, along with others owned and controlled substantially or totally by the Chinese Communist Party and China State Owned Banks, tells me we should spend our dollars elsewhere.

Asus has been a trustworthy place, vis a vis National Security.

And, if you are in a different country, like IDK, India, China spying probably hit's closer to home, so to speak...

Fairly recent reports of Chinese owned / controlled companies based in the US breaking North Korea and Iran Sanctions by acting as intermediaries in smuggling US Technology to those sanctioned countries.

US Fines Chinese Tech Giant ZTE $1.2 Billion | China Uncensored


Lenovo has (I think) stayed out of that, but are still excluded by the Pentagon procurement list for secure sites, and after so many times being caught sending data out from BIOS / Windows embedded hacks, it's best to avoid them, there are plenty of other good choices.

 

If you want to be future proof enough get the GL502VS with the gtx 1070.
1060 could probably last 2 maybe 3 years before you have to turn settings down to keep 60fps. Ofc you could overclock it a bit depending on the temps. The 502VS has all the bonuses, better screen, 120hz, G-Sync (which is cool even if not yet perfect) and the GTX 1070. All that for just 450€ more than the Lenovo one. RAM can also be upgraded to 32gb on the Asus one, while I don't know anything about the Lenovo.

About warranty, Asus should have a Global Warranty and also some additional warranty services you can pay directly to them through their website/app.
I think that Amazon has a 30 days return policy too. If a laptop breaks in the first 2 years you would probably prefer send it back directly to the seller instead of the manufacturer (and trust me, Asus support is not that great). So my advice is: grab the GL502VS from Amazon, hope for the best, and check the laptop carefully in the first 30 days (so you can return it if you find anything strange).

 

Well that's the other question.. Do I even need that 120hz screen.. I want it, but if I need it, I have no idea I have never used one, so I can't compare or judge.

My current laptop is Lenovo. Can't say a bad word. Yes it hangs sometimes but it's normal for aged laptop. About spying I haven't heard anything, that's probably because I'm new in to all of this. Thank you for information anyway.

Another one questions is, how is the build quality of Asus? I know that Y720 and both MSI's have almost full aluminum body. And those MSI's are sexy as hell, because they are so thin.

Anyway, thank you guys for helping me. I didn't expect such feedback

 

Full Aluminium doesn't mean jack **** - the GS series have far more deck flex than the plastic GL series or even MSI's own GE series for that. There is a reason Lenovo don't use metal for the wrist-rest, because it heats up and becomes uncomfortable to use. It also heats up the battery and causes more degredation.

 

You are welcome, I'm sure you'll do the same for others, that's how it works here

The only problem with high frame rate screens is the load on the CPU and GPU to feed them.

60 FPS is "good enough", some say even 30 FPS is good enough, but there are visible niceties from running 70 FPS and higher, I like 100FPS as a compromise, but as performance of CPU's / GPU's increase so can the FPS.

@120 FPS you will have a much greater load, drawing more power and generating more heat than running at 60 FPS.

In a laptop, I don't see the advantage, especially since I prefer IPS screens and to get a fast response high FPS screen the only ones worth getting are still TN panels. They are very nice TN panels, and I guess I can't say the IPS is totally better, but I still like them, just a preference thing.

But, there are high FPS games that can benefit from running at 120 FPS and above, so if you are a competitive gamer in first person shooter games, 120 FPS might be a requirement.

Otherwise a nice 60 FPS IPS internal display, coupled with a much better 144hz external display might be a better way to configure

 

You play CSGO and Rust so yes, you will notice a huge benefit in competitive online games. I am not a FPS maniac, I used to play 30fps and saying "hey it looks smooth", now I play at 60fps and say "I was wrong, this is really smooth! can't play anything below 60 anymore", then 2 weeks ago I saw my friend's 120hz external monitor and thought "****, I was wrong again..." but I am cheap as **** so I had to stop at a 1300€ GL502VM.

Fact is: you will get used to every screen until you will see another one with higher refresh rate and immediately tell the difference.

As @hmscott said, higher fps need more power which also increases temperatures, but you can always play your games at 60fps if temps are an issue. G-Sync helps too so you don't really need to reach 120fps on every game just 'cause you have a 120hz screen. You can play for example at 100 or 90fps and be satisfied with that.

About Lenovo, I know that they probably have the best speakers with Dolby on a laptop. Asus GL502VS speakers really suck.
Build quality of the Asus is on average and I really like the Aluminum cover.

 

I support @Chewingum 's statement above. The GL502, while plastic, has minimal flex and it doesn't feel flimsy. It's a weighty chassis and the deck never gets hot under load. The only hotspot is above the heatsink/under the screen.