ASUS g51vx cpu upgrade, finally

okay, I have made up my mind and have saved enough money to finally decided to upgrade my g51vx crappy cpu to t9600 (I know it's still not THAT good, but i plan on hanging on to my laptop for a while so might as well make it run a little better).

And I would be SO grateful if anyone of you good expert fellas out there can provide me some information / tutorial on how to upgrade laptop cpu without messing it up, as I said I plan on hanging on to this laptop for a while so I hope I don't mess things up.



thank you SOOOO much my asus brothers.

this is my first time






UPDATE:


3.22 is a yes prime stable for t9600!!!!! i know some get up to 3.4 but this is good nuff for me! ran for 13 hours and is running fine, im gonna let it run for another 4 hours or so just to make sure, but yea, this should be the stablest max clockspeed for me. yes!

 

Its really easy to upgrade. I had the g60 before and they are the same, just bigger screen. Just take the bottom panel off. First disconnect the battery. Then the fan. Unscrew 6 screws and 3 (if I remember correctly) screws for the fan. Take the fan off first, then the heat sink. Your cpu should be visible now. There a lock on it. Just use a flat head screw driver to unlock. If you look closely, you can see where it says unlock. Remove the old cpu and in with the new. Make sure it is seated right before you lock it in. Then clean and apply thermal paste. reverse the step and your done. The whole process should only take you 15 mins. But since it your first, take it slow.

 

wow that actually sound easy, and wut about the repasting, how much thermal paste did you repaste your cpu when u upgrade it? also do i have to manually upgrade any software or will my BIOS recognize a new cpu?

 

Bios side you'll be fine,don't worry about it.
About the thermal paste, be sure to clean accurately both CPU and heatsink with rubbing alcohol and don't use nail solvent or something like it.
Take your time
You may want to repaste gpu as well since you're there.
About the amount, put a pea sized blob in the center of the CPU/gpu core and screw firmly the heatsink back without making too much movements.
Pointless to say that you need a good TP like ICD Diamond or the awesome AC MX-4. Both are non conductive and they don't need cure/break in periods.
Good luck

 

So turns out i forget to order me some rubbing alcohol, are there any alternatives?

 

Get some isopropyl alcohol and a coffee filter or a microfiber cloth to remove existing thermal grease or the remnants of a thermal pad. You can go down to the pharmacy to get that alcohol, there's no need to order it.

 

what are the alternatives for coffe filter or microfiber(I don't have neither).

 

When you go to the store to get isopropyl alcohol get coffee filters

There isn't any good alternative I can think of. Tissues leave dust, any other kind of fabric will leave lint strands behind, and paper towels are way too rough.

You can get away with a cotton ball or a q-tip, but that is only if you are willing to be somewhat sloppy since it will leave behind some stuff.

 

alrite....coffee filter it is then....I just didn't want to spend too much money on something im just gonna use once, but i guess is fine, thanks for the heads up, so i will be able to see the old thermal paste on the socket right? same with my GPU? how much thermal paste should i apply on cpu and gpu?

 

It depends on what type of paste or thermal interface material you use, just read the documentation for the correct application method.

Yes you will definitely see the old thermal paste, it might be a little hard to get off too. You will want to remove it over a trash can.

For the GPU you will want to use a thick application, since there is a large thermal pad in there that you are replacing with paste. The CPU should be a normal application.

 

ty for the help...but do you think u can send me the link to that? I can't find the guide on google, also, my thermal paste is weird my friend told me is arctic silver 5 but on it it says pure silver conductive epoxy, is it a common paste?

 

Er what? I don't know what you are talking about with Pure Silver Conductive Epoxy, that sounds... bad. Where did you get it? The only thing I can find about that is this: Silver Conductive Epoxy

If you use that, you're gonna have a really bad time...

So let's make sure you actually have thermal paste in your possession...

Arctic silver 5 looks like this Arctic Silver Incorporated - Céramique 2

There is a cheaper version called Arctic Alumina which looks like this: Arctic Alumina

Each of those has an application guide link, which will bring you here: Arctic Silver, Inc. - Intel® Application Methods

Yours is obviously core 2 mobile.

 

Okay....just maybe I DON'T have a good thermal paste, yea im asking other friends now and see if i can get some arctic silver, thanks for the help, good thing i ask you pros first before doing anything stupid to me baby


Hey another friend of mine have some Zalman "super thermal grease-zm something".

he said he uses that for his cpu, what do you think?

 

Good 'nuff. It's probably not going to get you the world record but it'll definitely do.

 

wait...just so you know I DO overclock my cpu....and it kinda sound like your thinking there might be some cons with zalman compare to ac5.....?

 

Just try it out, it should work fine. If the temps aren't to your liking, go buy some different stuff and repaste later on. Replacing the CPU in that laptop is very easy, I changed it out twice when I had that laptop. I had a T9900 in it, and that baby was great. Didn't get too hot, and I was able to OC it to 3.4/3.5 with SetFSB. That definitely helped a lot with BC2 until they fixed it for dual cores.

 

I honestly don't know... There is a roundup here with some zalman stuff: Benchmark Reviews: Performance Computer Hardware Tests

The application is going to matter more than the paste.

 

o yea that's part of the reason why im doing this is just that i want to be able to run bf3 on at least low settings.

so do you think my t9600 can do 3.4-3.5? or should i aim lower? also, from what your telling me it seems bf2's issue was not only the cpu bottle neck with my g51vx - rx05 but also the game itself! dang!

ok, thanks for you enormous help, you guys don't even know how much help you have been to my whole cpu upgrading dilemma. i love it here!

 

I doubt you'll see those OCs with a T9600, but it is possible, all chips are different. I'd think you could get it up to 3.2 stable, but you might be able to push past that. And with BC2, that game just loves quads, it was the first game that said no to my G51, and thats why I decided to upgrade to the i series. I can't speak for BF3 though since I'm running it on my current system, and have no idea how an older dual core and gfx card would handle it.

Also there is a guide on how to OC that laptop CPU somewhere on here, not sure if you've found it yet. It gives you the PLL for SetFSB. After you have that you can test it out and see what you can get. Also keep an eye on the temps though, I do remember that laptops GPU getting nice and warm.

 

I see, ima look up the PLL for setFSB, thanks a lot for your info man!!!

 

Here ya go. Np.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/401345-optimization-guide-asus-g51.html

 

you sir , are simply amazing.

 

So! It turns out my friend's thermal paste is crap, and Im certainly not gonna waste this good weekend on waiting for a tp, so I bought an arctic silver from radio shack for 11 bucks(the silver kind), and I just want to ask one last question before I begins, except for the GPU, where exactly should I be removing paste, remember i am inserting a new cpu into my socket, am i gonna see any thermal paste on my socket?

 

Wait why are you repasting the GPU? Is that giving you bad temps? If you are only upgrading the cpu, if I remember correctly you only need to remove the heatsink from the CPU.

Here this video is sort of lame, but it should help you out. You can see you only have to repaste the CPU and chipset to the right of the CPU. If there is a thermal pad on the chipset, don't remove that -- it will probably look pupleish. Just leave the thermal pad on there, and only apply thermal paste to the new CPU after you put it in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0bkmoan45Y

 

okay what i am doing it just upgrading cpu, but i think in page 1(or could be in other threads) one of the guys told me that if im going to upgrade the cpu might as well repaste the gpu.


no it's not giving my bad temp, but is it a problem if i do?

 

No it won't be a problem if you do, just I remember when I upgraded my CPU, I also decided to repaste that as well, and it turned out to give me nothing but trouble. I ended up with very high GPU temps, and had a very difficult time getting it back under control. I wish I had never messed with it. If I was you, I would leave that alone. The gaping is weird between the GPU die and the heatsink. Finding the correct amount of paste/type of paste was tricky.

 

i see, ya i will just leave it alone, so all i need to do is remove old cpu, insert new, and paste the new one?" do i have to remove paste from anywhere?(just for cpu)

 

Yes, you need to remove the paste from the bottom of the heatsink, the copper part that covers the CPU die (the shiny chrome part on the CPU).

 

o! i see, thanks!

on my t9600 , the backside(or front..?) the black chip thingy is covered by a thin jelly, is THAT a thermal paste? or not?

also .... what color is the used thermal paste? white?

 

LOL man I hope you are just joking about the clear "jelly" stuff.. Just remove the white/gray material on the GPU die, but there shouldn't be any on the T9600 unless you bought it used and it wasn't removed by the reseller.

 

change of title :.....


success!
the cpu works fine, but i let the laptop ran for about 10 minutes and realize i forgot to plug in the fan, so i shut down the comp and plugged it in and let it cool down and run again.


would it cause any problem? I just let it ran for 10-15 minutes, no major issue seen so far.

another problem, when i paste my cpu t9600 i only applied thermal paste where the cpu (black area) and the sink has contact, is that correct? I also only put really tiny pit on the black area just nuff to spread it around, is it okay to assume that the TP will spread more after the heat sink is put back on it? im getting a very tiny bit of hiccup from gaming so im just wondering.

nah im talking about the thin layer on transparent substance on the black dot on my cpu, i looked it up and they all have it , so i think im fine, and yea i upgraded it , it works fine now

OKAY....I almost killed myself, my cpu is 2.8 Ghz right and I use setfsb to overlock all the way up to 3.07(the max), and then my computer just crashed on me and this terrible noise came thru my speakers, so what happened????what did i do? is the cpu no good for overclocking? should I return it?

now i have always have this problem and it appears to still exist, is that every time there's big explosion or something like that it would make me laptop hiccup, after i upgraded my cpu it runs alot smoother but those hiccups still exist(especially in black ops), could it be something to do with the overclocking crashing incident? or could it be software issue?

 

Those hiccups are IO related, not CPU. In other words your hard disk or SSD.

P.S. please don't post twice in a row, use the edit button until someone replies.

 

I see, but why are you so sure? is this what common hiccup problems are?(by hiccup i mean: when things explode / smoke, it froze for a like a 0.1 sec)


so now when i check with my cpuz the clockspeed is oscilating between 1599 ad 2799, is there anyway i can get it back to it's original clockspeed(i assume i mess it up when i crash it with setfsb)

 

You can set it back to default with SetFSB, also I think a restart will remove any changes done by SetFSB as well. The reason it made a loud noise/buzzing noise I assume is because it is not stable at those speeds. Some CPUs just don't OC well and you might have gotten one of those. I'd just be happy with the 200mhz OC you are getting. What are you temps while gaming? Did you get these freezes or hiccups before on your old CPU?

 

Alrite, this sounds really stupid but : what happened is that i thought the default stock 200value is the value of the cpu clockspeed(becuz my old one is 2.00 ghz...). so i ended up moving the slider all the way to 307 because i thoguht that's gonna get me "3ghz" on my t9600, well, naturally, it crashed. i just moved it a little bit to 240 and it is getting 3.5 ghz and it ran fine, so that's what my problem was, is that im noob.


anyway, i crashed my laptop twice before my realization when i set the fsb slide bar to 270, and 300, i immediately shut down my computer when they froze, is it possible for me to have damaged my t9600 cpu? (right now it runs fine and OC just fine)






and regarding the cpu itself, i bought it off from a regular use laptop(not gaming), but should that make a difference?



and yes i have been getting hiccups before, the temps are fine it's like 62 max after 20 minutes of cod gameplay, the TP i applied is really thin so maybe that is the cause? I can OC jsut fine now but the hiccups still happening, even more serious when i use fraps

http://imageshack.us/f/543/tempjl.jpg/

here's my temp after 20 minutes of BF2 on high settings

 

I know it is probably I/O related from experience debugging it on the G51J with FPS games. Look at your HDD indicator when you get a hiccup.

This assumes you aren't overclocking the crap of the CPU, because at that point the pcie bus will start to have lots of errors. It gets messy to track down if you are unsure of the cause, because it shows up in weird places.

There is a chance that you have something in the background killing your DPC latency, so try looking into that. If there is something eating your interrupts, your I/O latency will suffer. The usual suspects are security/AV software, scheduled tasks, or anything else running in the background.

Some people have also reported that taking the battery out can significantly lower DPC latency in some models.

 

okay...I see, So kind of follow up my last post, record I did somethign stupid with setfsb and overclocked all the way to 270 and 300 fsb, could this have damage my cpu and make it hiccup?(or make it more serious?)


and btw...what is an I/O???

 

It shouldn't permanently damage your CPU, but if you are worried, try prime95 in the background and see if you BSOD.

I/O is input/output: Input/output - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In this context this basically relates to dynamically loading objects in games.

 

will a blend test do the trick?

As for the Hiccups, what can i do if clearing sofrwares in the background(anti virus) are not helping?

 

Yes a blend test will do the trick for testing the CPU.

For starters try some maintenance on your disk - run a chkdsk /f c: (and d: if you use it) and defrag a few times.

 

gotcha! for the torture test: is 12 hours good enough? or is it gonna stop on it's own?

also, I am OCing it to 3.25 ghz to do the torture test and so far i have reached 84 degree Celsius , is that acceptable or not?

 

It won't stop, a normal burn-in test by a retailer or PC manufacturer is 24-48 hours, so 12 hours will give you a very good indication of stability.

 

i see, what should my temperature range during this test? I am turning the clock speed down back to 2.8 and im getting max 79 C temp, i don't feel safe leaving it like this overnight

 

79C is plenty safe as long as it isn't climbing to above 100C.

 

wow reeally???? so when i OC it and it runs to 84 it is still fine?


but yea! thanks for the info man! you are awesome!

 

Yeah Tjmax (thermal junction max temperature, Intel's hardware design) is 105C on a T9600 as far as I know.

Use a good temp monitor like Real Temp. There are a number you can try listed here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...ul-threads-read-before-posting.html#temputils

 

gotcha! thanks!

ok im defraging the harddrives now , wut i don't understand is, whenever there's smoke or explosion it will freeze my computer up for a little bit and then nothing, but my fps is high when it is not hiccuping, how is that related to HDD?

 

Then you need to turn smoke effects off or down...

 

ya...i guess, i mean is doesn't make much difference anyway

 

Alrite, just a little status report,3.5 is a nono, crashed immediately without prime95, 3.4 crash as soon as it runs, 3.27 ran for 2 hours and something then receive the hardware failure message and prime95 stopped, now running at 3.23 ghz, has been 4 hours so far hopefully it can last til today 5pm(12 hours)