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    Ahhh Need Help

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Omniscient, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. Omniscient

    Omniscient Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys, I was going to overclock my gpu and when i installed amd overdrive and ran it, it bluescreend my g73jh. now every time i try to boot into windows as soon as i get my desktop (3-5 seconds) it bluescreens. I booted into safe mode and tried to uninstall it, but it wont let me.

    Anyone got any ideas.?
     
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    Press F8 while booting and start secure mode. Then install the programm again. And try to boot again.
     
  3. Omniscient

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    I literally said in there verbatim that I am in safe mode and it won't let me uninstall it. Thanks anyways.

    here is the error message when uninstalling.

    "The Windows Installer Service could not be accessed. This can occur if the Windows Installer is not correctly installed. Contact your support personnel for assistance."
     
  4. Yiddo

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    Do you have the latest Vbios? Overdrive will not work on Vbios previous to 0.93v.

    When you go in by safe mode can you get into windows? if so go into device manager and right click on the Display Driver and select uninstall to delete the driver and restart.
     
  5. Omniscient

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    Yes dallers I'm in safe mode in it right now. I will try that, I hope it helps.

    as far as i know I'm on 11.5a
     
  6. Yiddo

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    11.5a is the display driver you need to make sure your Vbios has been updated to: 012.020.000.032 which will show this in GPU-z before overclocking with Overdrive.
     
  7. Omniscient

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    Dallers, uninstaling the vdrivers didnt work.

    the bluescreen points to aoddisplay.sys or somethign to that effect
     
  8. nadcicle

    nadcicle Notebook Guru

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    Try F8 again and choose "Last known good configuration"

    Then try what Dallers said.
     
  9. Yiddo

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    I believe you have set overdrive to a clock that it cannot handle and so when you boot into windows and switches to the clocks you chose it BSOD.

    Can you get into CCC and overdrive in safe mode to reset the clocks? Or try last know configuration when accessing the boot screen.

    There is another way of resetting the clocks in the BIOS and Chastity posted it somewhere....CHASTITY! come comment here please I cant find it.
     
  10. Omniscient

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    Alright that worked. I'm in and in non safe mode finally. that was a huge pain in the ... That just took overclocking out of the picture.
     
  11. Yiddo

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    Ah good news. Could you post exactly what you did it helps if anyone googles.

    Ahhh Need Help. :D
     
  12. Omniscient

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    I just booted into safe mode. Went to my drivers and deleted the video drivers. From there I restarted and hit f8. I then selected last known good configuration and it loaded up, reinstalled the video drivers and boom.
     
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    Good news.

    Before just raising the clocks in Overdrive watch my video thoroughly :) I know I have a poor english accent but I cover three vital points in my movie:

    1. Overclock at your own risk. Its risky business if you dont know what your doing
    2. ONLY overclock in small increments stress test before increasing further so that if it does BSOD under full stress you can return into windows and switch it back without it automatically BSOD as soon as windows loads.
    3. Make sure you have the correct Vbios installed to use Overdrive.
     
  14. Omniscient

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    The sad part is i never changed a setting. I am going to update all my bois and everything
     
  15. Yiddo

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    Start from scratch mate sounds like a driver issue for you if you have got the latest Vbios. Could try an older driver if 11.5a doesn't like it :)
     
  16. nadcicle

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    Lol, I was just about ready to ask how far you took your overclock.

    I took mine to 875 1100 and ran the ati ccc stress and it passed, but I just don't trust keeping it that high at all times.
     
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    If you can stress it with Furmark and its stable you might be ok but every program is different some might stop the driver from responding and cause it to restart.

    Whatever your maximum is drop it down 25mhz maybe a bit more and you should be stable. Stress and trial and error. Im happy with 800/1100 nice little increase.
     
  18. Omniscient

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    So after deleting the drivers cleaning everything out, uninstalling and reinstalling overdrive, I still get bluescreened as soon as it loads. I have no idea what to do other than just let it be
     
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    For future reference:

    If you need to uninstall ATI drivers in Safe Mode, use Driver Sweeper 2.9 or ATI Crap Cleaner. It'll get the job done well enough to allow you to boot and reinstall with new drivers.

    Also, you should be using 11.5b (b = bugfix) :D
     
  20. Yiddo

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    You mentioned a way of resetting the GPU clocks during startup in the BIOS the other day not in Safe mode what was it because I cant find that link?
     
  21. Chastity

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    I think I was referring to Nvidia Inspector and creating a profile shortcut, and placing it in the startup folder. The CCC also supports profiles and assigning them to Hotkeys. I'm sure there are other apps you can use as well.
     
  22. jakeythesnake

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    Let me guess, you installed the AMD OverDrive tool that you find just by googling for it? That's not the one to use for GPU overclocking ;) that one appears in CCC after you flash Chastity's custom vBIOS. Same thing happened to me, though to stop it you just boot into safe mode, run msconfig and remove it from the startup applications. Then you can boot normally and uninstall it.

    I believe it's because it's for AMD CPU overclocking, it just has the same name which is NOT HELPFUL AMD.


    edit: people who frequent this forum take note of above issue, it seems to be more common than I thought. Might want to put something in the useful info section about not having to install anything bar CCC for OverDrive, definitely NOT the software from this link: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/amd-overdrive/Pages/overview.aspx
     
  23. Omniscient

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    OK,You are right, the overdrive tool I got was from the AMD site, so that may be part of my problem. I have Chastity's vBios installed and 11.5b hotfix now, but I still do not see the overdrive in my CCC. Maybe I'm just missing it, but I don't see it anywhere.
     
  24. JOSEA

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    Open CCC - advanced View from preferences - performance tab - if it installed correctly U should see AMD OVERdrive, Click the unlock icon to use the tool. If the install did not work correctly you will not see this tab.
     
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    Yup, It is not there.
     
  26. nadcicle

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    This is usually from the flash not taking. Try flashing the vbios once more.

    Not saying you done it wrong, but to make sure you are putting in the right command type dir right before the flash to make sure you type the .bat file name correctly.
     
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    Yeah that OverDrive tool is definitely not the one you want. InstaBSOD is annoying as hell.

    Even without that OverDrive uninstalled, as soon as I flashed my vBIOS and booted back into Windows the correct OD option was available in CCC.

    Chastity's vBIOS .rar package comes with two .bat's I believe - one is stock and the other is his modified, are you sure you flashed the right one? It should be updateod.bat. If so then try uninstalling drivers, purging with Driver Sweeper from Guru 3D, then reinstalling.
     
  28. Yiddo

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    Her ^^ and you want to use Chastity's version the difference between that and the other modded version is that it has different timings for longer battery life.

    When you flash it will reset your drivers to the one that came with that Vbios version so that is why your OD was showing up in CCC but you still need to then update your drivers to the latest 11.5 or the (latest).

    If you uninstall all CCC and ATI driver software and use drive sweeper to clean all of the ATI files and then reinstall the entire 11.5a package and update it with the 11.5b hotfix you should be able to access overdrive through CCC as you said you have the correct Vbios version. If this doesn't work then you will need to flash again.
     
  29. Omniscient

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    So I am special.. I completely removed everything. I uninstalled CCC. I used Driver sweeper twice. I then proceeded to install 11.5 and then .5bhotfix and It appers that I have everything set right, but still no overdrive in my CCC.
     
  30. Yiddo

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    If you know what your doing reflash the Vbios and use Chastity's modded version. Flash at your own risk though.
     
  31. Omniscient

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    I flashed that yesterday from a bootable USB.
     
  32. Yiddo

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    :confused: Can you open up your CCC and take a screenshot and post it so I can have a look. You should have a section called performance: clock controls. If you have just installed the entire ATI package and not the separate overdrive installation.

    If not have you tried MSI afterburner or ATIGPUclocktool?
     
  33. Omniscient

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    [​IMG] [​IMG]


    There you go.
     
  34. Yiddo

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    If you definetely used Chastity's modded version it should be showing.

    Maybe she will be able to shed some light on this. Just check in advanced view in preferences but I dont reckon it will make a difference.
     
  35. Omniscient

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    I got it from the ROG site and watched the linked video tut. Its not in the advanced view either. I'm at a complete loss.

    Updated post above with advanced view thumbnail.
     
  36. iemie

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    In CCC click 'Preferences' and click 'Advanced view'.

    Then click 'Performance' and 'AMD Overdrive'

    Then click on the wee Padlock to un-lock Overdrive (see screenie)

    [​IMG]

    Good luck,

    iemie
     
  37. Omniscient

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    Uh I don't have a "performance"
     
  38. Yiddo

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    Totally off topic but damn its hot where you are :) and maybe god didn't want you to overclock.

    Wait for Chastity and ''god'' will confirm if this is the case :p its her Vbios after all.
     
  39. Omniscient

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    Yea man, its really hot here. It was 10 F warmer here last week. It really doesn't affect my temps to much though. I usually never go above 57c idle on gpu and about 54cpu
     
  40. Chastity

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    Let me guess... you downloaded the package and ran "VFlash.bat" :)

    That installs the stock beta vBIOS, which has no Overdrive.

    Why not download version 2, which has better battery timings, and try again.

    http://pcaudio.ath.cx/stuff/fix_od2.rar
     
  41. Omniscient

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    Thanks Chastity, I will be home in about an hour, and will do it. Do I need to uninstall all my ATI stuff and do it, or can I just reflash.
     
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    Just reflash the vBIOS
     
  43. Omniscient

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    Ok, so put just the same 3 files on there? Sorry to ask so many questions.
     
  44. Chastity

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    On the bootable USB stick, you need the ATIFLASH.exe from the original package you downloaded already, fix_od2.rom and the matching .bat file you get from fix_od2.rar
     
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    Awesome, I got it to work! Thanks Chastity!

    Ok, now when I set my clocks to like 820/1100, it doesn't change the current values from 400/1100 in CCC. IT does show in GPU-Z that my clocks are 820/1100.
     
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    400/1100 is the profile downclocking at idle or when you are just browsing etc in order for it to save battery power and lower heat/temp output when it is not required, when you run a 3D performance program or game it will automatically upclock to what you have set your clocks to in Overdrive.
     
  47. jakeythesnake

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    I did try to say 2 pages ago that you probably flashed the wrong .bat originally *shrugs* :(
     
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    Thank you. I had grabbed the wrong ones from the rar. it was showing IDENTICAL. thanks for you help too.