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    Ambient temps?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by sicmofo, Sep 27, 2010.

  1. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    hey guys, finally got my g73 back from asus after i bricked my vbios, and it works fine, no scratches, nicks, or dents. so you could say that im happy :)

    anyway... was wondering, many people here seem to be worried about their gpu temps, but very few bother to state their ambient temps. i idle at 64-67 degrees celsius (memIO. varying due to humidity) at 27 degrees ambient temp.

    does this constitute a repaste?(and using what thermal paste) the asus service center is just half an hour away (without traffic) and i'd like to hear your thoughts on what i should do :)

    thanks!

    and btw. will they be willing to update my vbios (considering an official update exists, im not too updated these days) and bios to 211 themselves? (and therefore be responsible). ive been been too scared to tamper with these things since my last and first bricking experience.
     
  2. gstboy

    gstboy Notebook Evangelist

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    The best way to see if they are normal is download the hwinfo32 program, pull up the sensor info window and look at your hard drive airflow temps. That would be a good indicator as to what your ambient temps are. If this value is in the 40's idling then the 64-67C idle temps of your gpu is about normal. My airflow temps are 39C at idle and gpu reads around 58C.
     
  3. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    awesome will try that now thanks :)
     
  4. antisniperspy

    antisniperspy Notebook Evangelist

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    Im guessing your clock speeds are 700/1000. If so your temps are perfect.
     
  5. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    temps are now resting at 64C idle with airflow at 41C.
    and yes clocks are 700/1000 sorry for missing that.

    thanks guys :)
    now only if it werent so darn hot here :p
     
  6. gstboy

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    You should also test your max temps as well running furmark. Idle is not going to show much difference in temps between repaste and stock, if you hit 100's then you may have problems later on.
     
  7. Toxictaru

    Toxictaru Notebook Consultant

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    Eh, I used to idle around 70-72C, repasted and now I idle at 58-62C. Idle can certainly tell you around where you want to be. Of course, stress testing will give you a better idea.
     
  8. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    havent tried furmark, but i keep the gpu-z sensor log on while i game.after a few hours of mass effect 2 or gta4 ive yet to hit 100. around 97C
     
  9. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    get chasity's Overdrive vBIOS based on gary's one.. it idles the laptop on 250/500 on battery and 405/1000 on ac.. lower temps...as a result.
     
  10. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    hmm...but according to a few posters, theyve noticed instances of screen flickering when switching between power modes. not too keen on having that feature. im going to try my luck with the 10.6 cats. tried em out before and had no gsods, even when running WEI if that is any form of measurement (although this was before i had my laptop sent to ASUS when it got bricked, so no telling whats changed since then). not too keen on updating my vbios just for one game, especially when everything else runs fine.but all the same, thanks so much guys :)
     
  11. Hedonist

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    Yup, I turned off my powerplay at the CCC for a fixed 700/1000 because after updating my vbios sometimes I am experiencing some flickering and glitch. But now its okay :3
     
  12. clozada

    clozada Notebook Enthusiast

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    Casual surfing now, in an air-conditioned room

    CPU: 54/49/53/48
    GPU: 60/56/60.5/53
    Airflow: 42

    When gaming, my GPU jumps to max 86, average probably 75ish
     
  13. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    lol but that doesnt that negate the whole point of chastity's vbios? to automatically downclock on light loads? :p

    well ive decided to pass by the asus service center tmw. just gonna ask them to do the flashing for me (both 211 and gary keys official gsod free vbios) then update to 10.8 :)

    to the other poster.wow we have similar temps on idle but the difference shows under load.maybe ill see similar results after flashing to bios 211 (fan speeds increase right)
     
  14. clozada

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    Ah the air-conditioning probably helps and its always on a Targus cooling pad (brings down temps 3 to 5 C). I tried gaming on a hot afternoon (gets really hot in the Philippines) without air conditioning (and forgot to plug in the cooling pad) it was noticeably warmer even on idle. I've never hit higher than 88C in the GPU though playing SC2 (high/ultra) even in that situation.
     
  15. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    still, those are really good temps I would know since im in the Philippines as well ;) my memIO temps (these are the temps youre mentioning right) hit 97C max while playing gta for a few hours. are you on bios 211 and the new vbios? im guessing the higher fan speeds and lower voltages factor in the equation as well. in fact im passing by the asus service center this afternoon to have them update my bios's and have them authenticate my windows (declared itself fake after having the mobo replaced) i just cant seem to bother myself with it
     
  16. Hedonist

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    Yeah, of course, but you will not experience any flickerings or glitch after unchecking it.

    Good luck.
     
  17. sicmofo

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    finally updated to latest bios and vbios (from Gary Keys) and shifted to 10.8. ran crysis for half an hour without a hitch as compared to before where it would go gray on me after 10 min, then leave artifacts on my desktop after quitting the game. im relieved and happy :) downloading the FFXIV benchmark to test (as it seems to produce GSODs rather effectively) got my kb lights fixed as well.yay!

    only thing thats weird is that it keeps switching between 405 to 700 for the core clock while on idle (just running chrome, gpu-z to monitor, and orbit downloader) any idea why? :p otherwise clocks remain at a constant 700/1000 while gaming.
     
  18. Hedonist

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    That setting is included at the vBios update. Down clocking if not needed to reduce gpu usage, gpu temp, and reduces battery consumption. That is normal. Try reading other topics if you have other questions, all your questions regarding this topic can be read here:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/515309-how-fix-your-gsod-blues.html
     
  19. Chastity

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    It's a feature of PowerPlay. When not under load and on AC Power, the gpu will downclock to 405/1000 0.95v. On battery and idle, 300/1000, or 250/500 if you are using my edition.
     
  20. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    i understand this but ive noticed that it keeps switching between low(405) to high (700) clocks (quite often...say 5-10 times per minute)switches while the laptop is pretty much idle on the desktop.

    is this normal? and what could possibly be triggering this change of clock speeds?

    thanks for your replies and sorry if im just asking something that has been asked and answered somewhere else.
     
  21. <MarkS>

    <MarkS> Notebook Village Idiot

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    Yes it's normal.

    With PowerPlay enabled, GPU usage is monitored and some algorithm is used to determine if GPU usage is in one of three states: low, medium, or high. Each of these states can have its own clock settings.

    With the firmware on our 5870s, the clock profile for the medium and high states is the same (and unfortunately can't be changed by us...lame) so when general UI use puts the GPU into the medium state, the high clocks are used.

    If you don't like it, you can turn off PowerPlay :)
     
  22. sicmofo

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    thanks for the enlightening info :) nah ill stick with it, with the old vbios i had to create desktop shortcuts just to switch between 2d and 3d mode.even lamer. thanks once again :)
     
  23. clozada

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    Yep, updated a few weeks back. Stock stuff worked fine for me, but I couldn't stand using outdated drivers.

    Don't really know if the 211 fan speed change helped my temps. I haven't really pushed this laptop to see what my stress temps are.