Asus G50 - 260M Swap Procedure

Alright, so i got my copper shims in the mail today, and I put it on the heatsink and it was a very tight fit. The copper was probably a little TOO thick, but meh, the 5mm screws still worked. ANYWAYS, i just loaded up FURMARK 1.8 and did the xtreme burn test, and here are my temps:

41C idle 41C Low 102C High

I know the GPU can go up to 108C before downclocking and such, but I was just curious if this high temperature was acceptable for my situation,or if it is still too high.

(keep in mind I have a G50vt with the 13 blade fan)

Thanks!

 

When I took apart the G51 and G50, the cooling assembly (cooper shim and the fan) looked exactly the same, although they had different part numbers. The physical difference between 260m and 9800m was the angle of the gpu die (diamond on the 260 vs square on 9800). But that shape difference really should be accommodated by a generous amount of thermal paste.
I had to wiggle the cards quite a bit before making them fit. But if you had already tried that, I really have no idea why its not making contact.
To help your die making contact, you can also look into getting some thermal pads, they are pretty soft and probably a safer way to help you bridge the gap between your gpu and the cooling assembly.

 

oops didn't see your last post there.
Yeah 102 sounds normal, I've hit that running 3Dmark with 24C ambient (no AC in my dorm, a pain in the butt).

 

So would you wager that if i had the G51's fan in this thing it would run a bit cooler? (more blades + spins faster)?

 

Probably. If you have a G51 fan at hand, go ahead and swap it and tell us if there's a reduction. Otherwise you can always undervolt if heat becomes an issue for you.

 

Turns out that the G51 fan lowered my max temps in furmark xtreme burning mode by about 9C-10C... I was hitting 101-102 with the G50's fan, now it barely goes over 91C... fluctuating back and forth between 92 and 91.

One problem though, to those guys that have swapped out the 9800m like myself, do you have an issue where the fan runs at full speed constantly after the swap?

It runs super cool idle (41C for me) but im afraid this constant speed will kill the fan faster than normal use.

 

Bump for justice!

 

Yeah my fan runs like a raped ape.

 

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These are the chips I'm running

 

yep, my fan runs like crazy too. keeps my idle temps nice and low though.
@pwndbygary, does your fan still run constantly with the G51 unit?
my donnor G51 fan ran normally after the swap, maybe the fan is not recognizing the gpu correctly?

 

I'm confused. Isn't this thread about putting a 260 into a g50???!?

 

Out of curiosity does the fan ever slow down on battery power or does it just keep going full on?

 

thanks for bringing this up dtd.

forcedinductionz:

do you think you could please give me the part number for the G60 fan? I'd like to do as much as I can for the life of this investment. ^_^

 

I replied to your PM. I don't have the part number any more. Maybe a call to Asus Tech Support? Good luck!

 

nope, fan still on full power when on battery. It kicks in as soon as you hit the power button.

 

Thanks viceless and ncc1701k!

 

Hey guys....i have swap the my 9700m gt with the 9800m gs.....now, i have swap from 9800m gs to 260m gtx.....it's ok....but i have one problem....the fan!!!!!!!!!!my fan is at max 5100m rpm with Everest.....have yours resolved this problem problem....???

 

Excuse me for my english im italian......

 

Wait, you went from a 9700gt to a 9800gs and then to a 260gtx? The 9700gt and 9800gs are not interchangeable cuz they have different physical layout right? How did you get it to fit?
We currently don't have a solution for the fan getting stuck on high, It's probably a bios issue that the motherboard cannot properly recognize the 260gtx.

 

nono....the mobo of g50v is same og g50vt...when i have install the 9800m gs the laptop screen i see :"asus g50vt series"...i see also in the everest and in system information utility of windows 7....believe me ..... when I installed the 9800M GS i had installed the original drivers but Windows recognized the card automatically!!!!! the solution is in addition to the heat sink must be installed above the bottom plate "which is under" the video card the piece is "bottom plate" i buy in ebay... et Vuile !!!!!!...... but now driver dox ..... I think I'll be able 'to find the solution x fan .... you help me no one has tried to swap the bios?? g50vt to g51vx ?????

 

here talked about you guys I actually replaced the G50V at g50vt to g51vx!!!! .... and now i have also installed TV tuner swapping the Intel Turbo Memory .... .... months and months of research .... thanks to you logically

 

but its not a physical matter. the issue has always been the fact that the G50V has no independent vBIOS... that is why you can't install a 9800m or 260m in a G50V, otherwise there would be a comprehensive 9800m Swap post, much like this 260m Swap post.

PLEASE, do give us detailed instructions, because as far as I understand from all the other posts i've read, it is just not possible.

 

This is awesome, I'm with viceless. I'd love to hear too!

 

do any of the North American model's have Turbo Memory? it could be that the european (he is italian) models do not suffer the same limitation that ours do. although he does state quite clearly swapping out parts from a G50Vt and G51Vx.

 

just ..... there are so many wrong things that are written here ..... physically is not the problem 's one thing I knew .... and here was someone who said a good thing is that the G50V has the VBIOS for the 9700M GT but also a boys empty slot ,.... the bios is the same as it was very easy .... tomorrow I will send you the photos .... but now I have a 260m GTX equal right? I think I was the only one in the world to try .....

 

other people tried with the 9800m into a G50V to no avail. That made trying a 260m useless, because they are the same, fundamentally.

 

in italy the g50v is with t9400 and intel turbo 2 giga....now i resolved the problem of my fan....or it kills!!!!!! for the guide is easy
1. buy the "bottom plate" (under vga)
2. buy the heatsink (above of vga)
3. buy the 9800m (the my 9800m buy in the ebay and it had installed on a g50vt x5)
3. disassemble g50v the mobo ...(it is difficult because the "bottom plate" is under the vga and it is screwed on the mobo
i posted down the photo of mobo of a g50vt.
4. start the notebook and smoke windows will recognize the video card....
and the system will: Asus g50vt series.....

 

seems strange but this piece that makes the solution guys....
tommorw post the pictures...now i test my 260m with crysis....

bye!!!!!!

 

@viceless: Turbomemory is just a mPCie card afaik.

@antonio, just to clarify: What motherboard (G50v/G50vt/G51) are you using?
And did you fix the problem with your fan?

 

the board under the VGA? That is the motherboard. that is why it works, he replaced the motherboard with one from a G50Vt or G51Vx

 

no....this piece is intalled on mobo....i buy this piece form asususparts.eu.....i have in my ebay this piece.....this is the link with the image....this piece is the heatsink that is installed under vga.....

HEATSINK FULL FOR G50V-VT + UPGRADE G50V TO G50VT! M50! su eBay.it Supporti, Docking Station, Accessori per portatili, Informatica e Palmari

the piece is the first of left....


i don't change the mobo!!!!!!!

how they fit the picture here?

i fit the pictures of my notebook

 

this is the piece it is screwed on the mobo of g50vt. this piece is different from g50v.
in down i fit the pictures of this piece and the difference of this piece between g50v and g50vt

 

this is badge of my computer....you see...9700m gt card

 

....2 badge...

 

in the ebay....i sell the my 9700m gt with the heatsink.....now find the pictures....

 

this is the difference of bottom plate (down vga) of 9700" right and bottom plate ( down vga) of 9800m is "left"...

logically i buy the heatsink of 9800m gs (up the vga)

 

this is my 9700m gt with heatsink and bottomplate....

ok???you understand????.....its easy....

 

thaks to" bottom plate" fisically the 9800m gs to install on g50v....

guys the g50v and g50vt are same!!!!!!!!!!!

the piece i buy at Asusparts

time ago we knew this because no one knew the bottom plate.

everyone knew the only heatsink that goes' above the vga board.

However, the bottom plate is the heatsink for VideoRAM OF 9800M GS, THE VideoRAM THAT IS INSTALLED IN THE DOWN OF VIDEO CARD.

 

this is now my g50v......

 

.... For the problem of the fan. I did some research .... And I concluded:

1. g51vx not Support The [a] [U quadcore] [/ U] [/ U]
2. the mobo of G50V and G51VX is the Same;
3. we find the BIOS of g51vx, but not update!!!the bios of the original system, not updating the bios, if I remember, in the Asus support there are 2 updates g51vx but we must first find pure bios !!!!!!!!!

4. The problem is finding a donor ... YOU KNOW? .... which g51vx.

Windows recognizes the GTX 260, thanks at the .....( Modded ".inf" file) so the operating system and ok, now is the BIOS ....

In many forums there are people who wanted to upgrade the G50V with a quadcore, the g51vx (the one with the same mobo G50V) only supports dual core and then the bios g511vx of a difference supports the 260m gtx

The mobo has g51j is different ...

The G50V and g50vt have the same BIOS, because the two video cards are a 65-nm and 512 MB VRAM. The name change on the motherboard of the system thank at the video card (Asus G50V and Asus series g50vt series) guys the name of the system is given by the video card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the bios is connected with the video card
GTX 260m for the problem is different

55nm 1giga VRAM ... so ASUS has created a new BIOS for supporting g51vx 55nm G92 chip 1GIGA VRAM.
Here's my solution.

G50V's BIOS does not support 100% the 55nm chip and 1 gig of VRAM !!!!!!
G51VX's BIOS supports it but we must FIND AN ORIGINAL BIOS (PURE) NOT UPDATED.

 

my head esplode

 

Someone will complain about so many posts and things not being in English, but seriously this is the best info I've seen on this stuff yet. Grazie Antonio!

 

i have fix the post.....the problem is google traslate....!!!!

 

Okay Antonio, I get what you're trying to say,
but look carefully at the screw mounting pattern of the 9800gs
Asus G50V nVidia GeForce 9800m GS 512MB DDR3 Video Card - eBay (item 290461581182 end time Sep-05-10 10:15:57 PDT)
and compare it to your 9700gt
NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GT 512MB video card Asus G50V G50 - eBay (item 180543337483 end time Sep-05-10 08:54:17 PDT)

The screws will not line up, furthermore your g50v gpu heatsink is in two separate pieces, whereas in g50vt it is one single piece connected with the fan.
Asus G50VT-X5 G50V-X1 VGA Heatsink FaN 13N0-BBA01011A0 - eBay (item 270611165951 end time Aug-20-10 18:37:16 PDT)
So unless you have on your hand a motherboard from the g50vt, there is no way that you can make the 9800gs fit on your mobo.

And please stop using so many exclamation marks and ellipses, they make reading your post even harder.

 

precisely because the screws are different I bought the bottom plate of the 9800M GS I also added the photos but did not see?
the solution to physically enter the video card heatsink is to buy the 9800M GS more of 'the bottom plate of the 9800M GS.
I wrote this thing 15 times and I've also added photos.
read well.

 

in all G50 the sinks are separated ... the other sink is screwed to the motherboard.
This suggests that you wrote that you have never seen a mobo of the G50V or never removed the 9800M..i do not understand why 'everyone here do not understand. You who sleep on wrong theories.

I did practice.

However if you do not care.

Within another forum to explain things as they are.

here speak only (blabla).

 

Okay, after reading all 20 of your posts for about 15 times, i can finally understand that you have a 9700->9800 adapter heatsink/backplate. Don't get mad at us for not being able to understand that ebay page since it is in italian.
Trust me, I've been playing around with Asus hardwares for a while now, I don't "sleep on wrong theories".

If you want earlier or modified version of the vBIOS (or it is regular bios that you want?), this thread has a pretty comprehensive guide.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/401345-optimization-guide-asus-g51.html

 

Unfortunately if you're not EXPERT CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ALL.

You could UNDERSTAND ALSO MY POST IN 30 MINUTES.

I FIND THE BIOS MOD FOR G50V FOR THE FIX THE PROBLEM OF FAN.

 

For what I've seen on this picture, you can install GTX260M on G50V mobo, right? Does it run flawlessly?

 

i don't had problem fo bios, but fisically don't support the problem is the screw, you buy the:

1. heatsink of 9800m gs or 260m gtx

2. bottom plate of 9800m or 260m gtx

3. 9800m gs video card

i post the link of ebay of product in the up.


I would compare this with thalanix, viceless , dtd00d and others who have long deepen the swap..