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    Asus G51Jx-A1 w/ GTS 360m (GDDR5), now available for pre-sales!

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. euisungkim

    euisungkim Notebook Deity

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    for $1300? Why? I mean, did your "friend" tell you about BSoD issue? Reason why he's selling it?
    honestly if I were you, I wouldn't purchase the G51j-a1 unless BSoD issue is solved. Too many problems in the laptop. Can you trust that person?
    in my opinion, just put like $150 more and buy the new model with the GTS 360M. It'll run cooler which means that you will able to overclock the GPU (its not 100% proven that it will run THAT cool, but I know it will run cooler than the GTX 260M).
     
  2. anand00x

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    Yes it comes with the 2 year warranty. I can trust him but what are the BSOD issues? Can you please explain? I want the raid 0!!!
     
  3. euisungkim

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    BSoD issue is called Blue Screen of Death.
    Some people can't finish a game or even play a certain game because blue screen pops up so many times.
    warranty doesn't matter right now, issue isn't fixed at all, it's going nowhere. (it's been 2months, people are getting tired of it)
    raid 0 is all you care about? I would care about the laptop first then raid 0. ;)
    some people call G51j-a1 the gaming laptop that doesn't play games.
    you should seriously consider it.
     
  4. anand00x

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    Haha I just found a 134 page thread on the BSOD issue FFFFFFFFF. I'm so glad i found this out. THIS SUCKS. I do care about raid 0 why the hell didn't they raid 0 the x version I am soooo confused. Maybe secretly that is what is causing the BSOD and no one has considered this. Why else wouldn't they put it in the new version. I bet if you remove one of the hard dries out of the current G51 it will solve the issue lolz. ASUS :confused:

    Also I thought if you 1. Update your bios 2. remove the creative sound drivers and 3. Installed the latest P4G (Turbo to Extreme turbo) 4. Removed the Synaptic mouse pad drivers the issue was resolved lolz

    Forgotten Step 5. Uninstall Windows 7
     
  5. Lanaya

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    they removed the raid capability because they are using a new chipset that has 4 ram slots, and no raid controller.
     
  6. euisungkim

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    haha, if that was the solution, ASUS would gladly replace the HD for you.
    ASUS has a good customer service but i don't really know what happened to the model G51j-a1.
    They put up a new series because of BSoD issues. (it's my opinion, why else would they release a new model in like 2months right after g51j-a1 was released?)
    ASUS is a great company. I hope they learned a lesson from problems in g51j-a1.
     
  7. anand00x

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    so consensus says I should buy the G51j and wait for the x ???
     
  8. euisungkim

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    or get the g73jh-a1 with complete new cooling system&design. :)
    your choice.
     
  9. Wolfpup

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    No, DON'T buy the G51j. Either wait for the x version, or pick a different system if you have to have RAID (though be sure to be even more diligent about backing up if you're using RAID 0).
     
  10. Kevin

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    Oh man, correct the topic title to GT S 360M please.

    I was mislead.
     
  11. anand00x

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    Can the two hard drives be configured in raid 0
     
  12. Lanaya

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    as has been asked and answered at least 10 times so far: YES.
     
  13. anand00x

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    oops haha sorry about that. this thread has a very similar thread title to the g73 thread where we've answered that question 3 times today XD no, the G51JX will not have raid capability, it has 1 HDD.
     
  15. anand00x

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    But since the G51j-A1 has 2 hard drives is there a raid 0 configuration I see some places that say no and some say you can do it with windows 7 can you clarify.
     
  16. Lanaya

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    they say you can do it with win7 because win7 has OS level raid configuration. it doesn't have a Hardware Raid controller, which is faster and more reliable.
     
  17. anand00x

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    Are there any steps to doing this?
     
  18. wyald

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    okay the biggest question here would be, are the Asus G51Jx-A1 will sharing the same fate of BSOD frenzy as it's predecessor. can someone enlight me on this one??
     
  19. Wolfpup

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    We don't know. Won't know until people have had it for at least a couple of weeks.

    We can HOPE that although Asus has been silent, they know about it and are making sure the new model doesn't do the same thing. I'm feeling pretty optimistic, but possibly for no good reason :-D
     
  20. INEED$

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    So since this model only has one hdd would it be better to order a ssd and use an external if you need more space? Is the performance that much better with a ssd and do they use more power?
     
  21. Wolfpup

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    SSDs use less power, the performance in a GOOD one is phenomenal (in bad ones it's worse than a standard hard drive), but no, with only one drive bay I think it's pretty iffy for most people.

    The lowest I could see trying to go for myself is 256GB, and Intel doesn't make any of those, and the Indulix (totally misspelled) 256GB drives are at least double what I'd be willing to pay.

    No, I think practically speaking it's better to just get a good 320 or 500GB mechanical drive. Be aware that I've heard of a LOT of issues with 7200RPM 500GB drives. I'm not sure if that's all brands or not though, so I just stuck with a 320GB 7200RPM drive (which the system will probably come with anyway).
     
  22. INEED$

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    Thanks for the advice. Wow hadn't heard that about the 7200RPM 500GB drives. I'll have to look into that further.
     
  23. Wolfpup

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    Yeah, it's weird, I'd never heard of anything like that before, but maybe it's been fixed, or only affected certain brands? But as far as I know the name brand 5400RPM 500GB drives and the 320GB 7200RPM drives are just fine.

    And I'm kind of confused, because companies made 2.5" 640GB drives, but the first ones weren't actually for notebooks (too tall), but...maybe some of them are now?
     
  24. thalanix

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    depends, one of the bays is 8 and 11mm tall, or whatever those two sizes were (g51j)
     
  25. VZX

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    I went back couple pages but didn't find it;
    Anyone know when Jx will be released to market? (early, mid, end of feb? or even march?)
     
  26. 5150Joker

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    So wolfpup, you ended up getting a G51-Jx? Why not the G73?
     
  27. evensen007

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    I couldn't respectfully disagree more... SSd, even as the sole hdd in the laptop is the way to go. Anyone who has used one would never say to get a mechanical drive. Intel is the best of the best in SSD right now, and OCZ is right there with them. If you stick with those two, you are good to go.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=447140&page=47
     
  28. Wolfpup

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    Oh no, I'm still waiting for it to release or maybe that G60 system at Best Buy to fall in price more or something.

    The Jx looks like a nice system, but I think I'd want to wait a few weeks on it too to make sure it doesn't crash or have USB issues :(

    I was kind of hoping it would be like...by now, but I guess we don't know :-/

    I'm sure I'll feel like that once I switch to one for my main system, but Intel doesn't make one big enough for me, and...I think basically once Intel makes a 256-320GB one for $400ish I can bite (assuming it's not so far in the future that 320GB would no longer be usable for me!)

    For now I'm not worrying about it because really, once stuff's loaded it's instantaneous anyway.
     
  29. Roland@XoticPC

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    The current ETA for the Asus G51JX-A1 is late January.
     
  30. Wolfpup

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    Nice! Thanks Justin. That's not too bad since there's only two weeks left.

    I'm letting someone else be the guinea pig though. I really need one RIGHT NOW (unless I find some other way of doing this...) but I want to wait a couple of weeks for BSOD and USB reports...
     
  31. brochiller

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    Another option that is a bit cheaper than the G51Jx is the G51Vx over at Newegg. There should be a refresh of that coming soon too right along with the G51Jx. That's what happened last time there was a refresh anyway.

    Anybody know for certain?
     
  32. Roland@XoticPC

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    You could look at that model, but the Asus G51VX-A1 is a pretty old model as it has windows Vista pre-installed. The G51VX-A1 turned into the G51J-A1 and the G51J-A1 turned into the G51JX-A1. That's been the refresh cycle so far. :)
     
  33. Wolfpup

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    I keep hoping the G60vx would drop. I'd rather have a quad core, but at least it doesn't have USB or other issues.
     
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    the G51VX-X3A at newegg has windows 7 installed stock. also- its expected to get a core i5/i7 620m refresh soon.
     
  35. Wolfpup

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    Seems like that's basically the same system as Best Buy has as the G60, except slightly smaller (but higher resolution screen), and I don't know if it's LED or florescent backlit.

    With a dual core and no Blu Ray, I'm just not quite willing to spend that much :-/
     
  36. Lanaya

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    its also got a faster CPU, bluetooth, and a better webcam. and all of the G51XX series are WLED backlit.
     
  37. Wolfpup

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    Oh, no I meant the 09 version that's got the same CPU. Didn't pay attention to bluetooth, but I don't use it.

    What's bad about both systems (from my perspective), is the CPU is basically the exact same one I already have-just 153Mhz faster. I'd like a quad just so I feel like I'm getting a real upgrade there too :lol:
     
  38. VZX

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    G51VX was released on August IIRC, and that's 2 months before Win7 release.

    I personally think It's still a good alternative to G51J right now. The benchmark also pretty much the same; In fact, some of the G51VX-A1 number is higher than G51J's
     
  39. Wolfpup

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    The one on Newegg comes with Windows 7 though.
     
  40. Lanaya

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    when the G51J-A1 was released they released the G51VX-X3A on newegg with win7 installed.
     
  41. VZX

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    Sorry, I meant to say G51VX-A1
     
  42. NeRo45

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    Is there a difference between the GTS 360m listed on Xoticpc.com and the GTX 360m (which you all are saying is in it)?
     
  43. euisungkim

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    there WILL be a difference since GTS 360m is slightly worse than GTX 260m.
    GTX 360m isn't out yet. ;)
     
  44. NeRo45

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    So then this thread needs to change its title no? Kind of misleading hehe.
     
  45. brochiller

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    Yeah the title should have been changed a long time ago.
     
  46. NeRo45

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    Yea, I just read where t was brought up.

    Mods please change GTX to GTS as the GTX 360m does not exist.
     
  47. VZX

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    With higher clock speed, doesn't GTS360m easily overheat more than GTX260m?
     
  48. Wolfpup

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    No, it's got slightly less hardware and is made on a smaller die process.
     
  49. nfshp253

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    I've just read the specs on xoticpc and it says the G51Jx-A1 has a Intel HM55 Chipset. Does that mean it supports USB 3.0? :D
     
  50. euisungkim

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    g73jh-a1 has hm55 chipset too but it doesn't support USB 3.0.
     
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