Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

the G53 is gonna hurt the G73JH's sales badly, dont you think? A 15-incher with the specs customizable to match the G73JH and even has USB 3.0 and HDMI 1.4

Asus really has great timing

 

I'm sure the new G73 will have those features also.

 

It wasnice knowing you, my sweet G51. I'll find you a good home.

I just hope there's a non-3D version with a 460m/470m GPU. That would be my dream.

Well, 480m would be nice as long as my laptop doesn't convert into a space heater in the winter.

 

Let the modding begin , im kinda worried if it really has dual coolers though, mostly becuase of the dual hdd again... seems kinda tight atm on the G51 to fit a second cooler and 2 more slots of memory, but seems its larger than the usual 15'' (witht he F117/lambo extra back) so it might be enough for all that, just let it come with a fermi, and ill buy it, hoping the 350m is a typo or a transitioning thing.

 

Since my previous post was deleted, perhaps due to cultural differences, I'll say it differently, 3D is a gimmick.

 

Agreed!
The last thing I want to do is wear a pair of glasses when gaming.
Not sure why laptops makers are pushing it cause more people don't want it then do.
It seems it has 3 screen options so I'm guessing a more traditional 2D screen will be available.

 

I blame Avatar, for some reason seeing that movie in 3d convinced everyone that Alien Pocahontas was the best movie ever.

 

While I did like Avatar, it does seem true that its success is driving more people to adopt 3D. Which annoys me, but that's a different story.

Oh you know I will. I'm going to be begging Ken from Gentech to give me spare parts, like bottom panels and stuff, just so I do naughty, naughty things to my hardware.

Wait, that came out wrong.

I'm thinking that the initial model will indeed come out with GTS 350m, but subsequent models will get beefier. If I remember right, different interations of the G50 had 9600m GT and 9800m GS. And G51 with the GTX 260m and GTS 360m.

 

doubt when the G53 will come out and become available with stock.. don't forget the G73 announces on 2009-12?? sometimes like that? and retail have stock on early Feb. It take like 2 -3 months to clear all the backorder..

 

It's not a form factor that's meant to be used on your lap. Even when I am not gaming on mine, it's still on a table surface, and that still means that mouse > touchpad.

 

Not sure how prices are where you live but I can only find 2 g51jx models here in Belgium, they respectivly cost 1700 and 1900€. The m15x is far less expensive. Asus used to be good priced but now its more expensive than Alienware in my country, while offering weaker performance, and hotter temps. The additional 3D screen makes the price skyrocket even higher

 

Over here as well, the G51 with the 3D screen and the lame 360M is priced higher than even a Sager 8760 with i7 820QM and 5870MR here.

 

I agree but the point in this laptop is the fact that the panel is 120hz, this improve the gaming experience a lot.

 

How? Do you see flicker at 60Hz?

 

LCDs don't flicker.

Really, the biggest advantage of 120Hz over 60Hz is that you can display 24Hz video without 3:2 pulldown.

120Hz LCD TV's often include video processing that acts to smooth out motion, but I don't think you'll get that in a laptop anyway.

In gaming, if your system can output 120 FPS (the G53 won't for most games...) then you will drop average latency from ~8ms to ~4ms, which might matter to a hardcore CS player.

 

That's funny. Apparently G53 will feature the GTS350M which is a downgrade from G51/G60 in a laptop that is supposed to have a better cooling... (sorry if this has already been debated).

Oh and expecting GTX480M in G73 imo is plain retarded. Not gonna happen unless you want your plastic case to melt, judging from the fact the "extraordinary" cooling system already has a hard time coping with the 5870 for some (reported in-game temps in the 90°C with stock clocks is not healthy).

 

Talking about games, 120HZ is only useful for fast paced games and TBH every fast paced game i can think would get more than 120fps on G53 .

While for single players it may be the most useless feature ever i would say that for who play fast paced multiplayer games it's the most important feature ever

 

Even my 5870MR can't output anything near 120FPS for any game 1-2 years recent, so I doubt a 350M can do so either, unless you lower everything to the lowest and play on 800x600 or something, even then, you will get bottlenecked by the CPU trying to reach 120FPS.

That's why IMO the only notebook currently that can even make use of 120hz screen is the upcoming X7200 with 2x 480M and desktop CPU.

 

You don't need 120hz for bc2 or crysis you need it for cs, quake, ut, tf2 .

 

You're calling TF2 fast-paced? Seriously? Besides, you won't get 120 FPS in TF2 with a 350M either, unless you turn the settings down.

 

What about the annoying screen tearing in games like Borderlands and Metro 2033. If vsync isn't on it looks like crap.

 

I wouldn't think 120Hz would help that problem. As long as you have only a single framebuffer, it's possible for the monitor to read a frame while the graphics card isn't completely finished updating it, which means you'll get tearing. With your monitor at 120Hz, the monitor will be updating twice as often so that would mean twice as many torn frames.

Vsync is the best solution to tearing, and triple-buffered vsync solves the latency problem with Vsync.

 

You can't have 3D gaming with all those old games anyway as they don't support it.

IMO, all those Asus 3D notebooks are more of 3D movie watching + 2D gaming.

 

G51VX had a GTX260 and the G51JX changed that to a GTS360 as a safer and cooler alternative. Given this track record there is about a 50/50% that we could see either a GTS or GTX460 card in the G53 depending if Asus wants to continue to play it safe or if they want to give the GTX another try and hope that it's more stable this time.

GTX480 would be the logical choice for the G73JW if they want to go up from the 5870 but cooling remains the biggest issue.

As for 3D well.... Are there really that many people who bought a G51J-3D ? That thing cost about as much over here as a G73Jh-A2

*On a personal note, a G53 with GTX460 and G73 with GTX480 would be pretty awesome but wether it happens or not is another matter...

 

The G73 will have the 480GTX, this has already Ben reported by a few scources.
Believe or not.

 

A soldier on scrims is pretty fast-paced .

It's pretty much like CS, while it isn't fast-paced for 90% of the time there's some moments when 1ms can be the difference of being alive or dead.

And playing in 1024x768 (best resolution ever for competitive playing IMO) it's more than enough .

You don't need 3D to get the benefits of 120hz .

 

I wonder if its gona be a truly reference speced in volts/clocks, considering the G51/G60/G71/G72 had a underclocked version of the GTX260m.

 

I say not. Until it is officially confirmed or undermined. Because some screaming virgins are already reporting the G53 would feature it too. Which is obviously ridiculous. Oh yeah I think Sony will put it in its new VAIO Z while I'm at it.

Let's face it that would mean a huge price increase, and I don't think the G73 can handle it.

My bet is at least these statements will be true : 1/ It won't be available on all G73 (you need some budget laptop) 2/ It'll be a downclocked version.

 

The JH will become the G73 "budget model" so that's pretty irrelevant, but any fermi card will def be underclocked and non-standard MXM.

 

How does 460M GTX compare to 260M GTX in terms of performance?
Would it be a reasonable upgrade from the 260M GTX in the G51?

 

Yeah, but not because it was better for the laptop, but because the g51jx had a powerhungry core i7 and the g51vx did not.

Sure, non standard, but standard across g73 lines. Now I've got an upgrade path that gives me acceleration in adobe products. ^_^

 

Nothing is certain as the videocards are not officially out nor in the hands of real consumers, but it seems the GTX460m is faster than the 5870 in some aspects, and the 5870 blowed away our 260, so i would guess close 5870, again pure speculation until we see real benches and games ruining.

Finally, Comparison between Nvidia GTX 480M & Mobility HD5870

 

Are Nvidia marketing graphs really the best place to get a fair comparison between ATI and Nvidia GPUs ?
According to these same graphs a single GTX480 is more than twice the performance of an ATI 5870... Sometimes even 5 times better.

Specs for the GTX460 aren't out yet so it's impossible to tell for sure.

 

As i posted this is pure speculation atm, and the test there probably one sided nvidia marketing, are probably be taken with a grain of salt, but there is no doubt that fermi in desktops focus a lot into having much better performance into tessellation, thus the 5x you see there. ATI is promising new drivers that will boost this side, but atm nvidia is using it as marketing thing. Some people even believe tessellation won't have a good impact short terms and thus worthless, but no one knows how the industry will develop for sure, and how nvidia has pushed or forced companies to support their tech, so who knows.....

One thing that i hope its true for that review....

I would take an i5 if they were to implement it over an i7 qm.

 

That makes me wonder: what temperatures were the G51j getting, since it had a Core i7 and a GTX 260m.

 

>= 100°C under load.

 

Is that a high or an average? Some G51vx owners with low-clocked 25TDP C2Ds were approaching that temperatures with Asus GPU underclocks

 

Yeah, I just don' get how they're going to be able to cool a "same specced" but smaller ASUS G73

 

Well, any of the 4xxM GTX chips will actually be Fermi based chips, as opposed to rebadged 98xx technology like the current 2xxM GTX chips are. So yes, it should prove to be a worthwhile upgrade, even from a 285M GTX.

 

It wasn't just heat. It was also power draw, that's why the G51j got "updated"/refreshed to the g51jx so quickly.

 

running Prime95+Furmark with thermal throttling disabled, 85C+ CPU 100+ GPU. That was after 3 minutes when I lost my nerve, temps were still rising. But what do you expect from 45W CPU, ~50W GPU, and 1 fan.

Highest I've seen during normal operation: GPU 96C with mild overclock, CPU 82C.

If this G53 does not have 2 hard drives, I would not prefer it over this anyway.

 

It will have 2 HDD

 

Hoping to see what graphics card this notebook comes with as well as weight. My only dislike about this notebook is, it looks plain, wished it came with touch sensitive buttons. I've seen plenty of notebooks with keyboard + On button, just not attractive. I am deciding between this or GT660 depending on specs.

 

I've never heard of the GT660 before you mentioned it. That's quite a computer, a 285M is pretty awesome. Fancy looks aside, it does have more buttons than the G53 and a subwoofer, too.

 

Found This Vid on uTube showing the G73jw and G53 as well. He pans over to the notebooks at about 3:16. Not really much info at all (dude show whats on the cards!! not the already known airflow system!) but I thought I'd post it here anyways

 

He mentions the G53 and the G73JW.

 

What do you guys think of the news that they'll be including WirelessHD streaming technology on a G53 and G73JW model? Did a google search and it seems like only Vizio TVs will be compatible at the moment. It makes me wonder if Asus is going to try to compete against Alienware and Clevo through more features instead of price.

 

i was hoping the guy read what video card was in, to see if it was really the 350m or 460/470.

 

You're not missing much, the cards just say NVIDIA Enthusiast Graphics.

 

350M would be a total failure. There are no words.