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    Asus G73 - Official ATI 10.5 released

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by dandush, May 26, 2010.

  1. Chango99

    Chango99 Derp

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    When I download that it says Catalyst Version 10.4 is that right?
     
  2. Kalim

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    I've removed the direct link from my post and until we know for sure, perhaps you should also removed the link from yours.

    In the meantime, before I included the link I downloaded the archive and unpacked it. The file dates were correct for 10.1 cats and the internal dates and version in the INF files were also correct. Here's an example of one INF file:

    File date=2010-01-28
    DriverVer=01/22/2010, 8.692.1.0000

    That puts the archive in the correct area to be the 10.1 cats. Making this more difficult is that I use the 9.12 cats, so I had to go by the information contained in the archive.
     
  3. Chango99

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    Well it is from Asus right? These have given me no problem. Haven't GSOD in Borderlands so far, and my temps for borderlands have decreased by almost 20C.
     
  4. stubbornswiss

    stubbornswiss Notebook Consultant

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    OK....now I'm getting a bit confused!

    According to your earlier explanation regarding the relationship between driver version and release date (pls. see above somewhere), how can a driver released on 2010-04-15 be version 10.1?

    Wouldn't it be 10.4?

    :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  5. mikeyhd

    mikeyhd Notebook Consultant

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    the naming scheme is more for ATI releases.

    Asus just release them later
     
  6. stubbornswiss

    stubbornswiss Notebook Consultant

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    Ah.....so ATI has its release date, and then Asus comes along and has their own release date for the same driver (with the release dates not necessarily being the same).

    Hmm......I think I'm beginning to understand...... :p
     
  7. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    You complicate and make this all very confusing.

    ATi has monthly driver updates.

    OEM's may choose to release their own based on the monthly. Whether they use 10.1, 10.2 or 9.12 as their basis is their choice.

    And when they release them is their choice. There is no definitive pattern to this. Just is.

    It's way more simple than you are making it out to be.
     
  8. aramis109

    aramis109 Notebook Deity

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    Started using 10.5 last night for the hell of it. Only played some Torchlight on my lap for a few hours. Temps were pretty high- 70c on a game it should breeze through. That said, it was very warm in my house, so I have no doubt that had an impact. Will check more as time goes on.
     
  9. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    My screen kept going black with the 10.5 drivers. The Asus 9.12 drivers continue to work the best for me.
     
  10. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Ambient temps have a huge impact. When it's 72F my idle temp is 52C but it was 80F this week, before turning on the A/C, my idle temp was 58-61C. Once A/C was on, dropped down to 52 even 49C while I was watching a movie again.
     
  11. stubbornswiss

    stubbornswiss Notebook Consultant

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    Ok.....all I'm trying to do here is to understand this thing.

    And quite frankly, your explanation really doesn't help me.

    So I guess I need to go back to basics....

    All I'm trying to do, is learn how to determine the exact version of a driver, whether it be from ATI or OEM.

    Do forgive me if I'm making it too complicated.
     
  12. aramis109

    aramis109 Notebook Deity

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    Well, yeah. ;)

    It's why I brought it up. Even my PS3 has been kicking into high gear lately when playing GOW II. Wish we had central air. :p
     
  13. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    You open CCC. And you look at the Driver Version. You are done... That's it. Bigger the number newer it is. What's so hard to understand about this?
     
  14. stubbornswiss

    stubbornswiss Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you so much for showing me how to do this.

    You ask whats so hard about understanding that? Well you NEVER told me where to look. Would have saved so much time if you had just pointed me in the right direction to start with.

    Thanks again.
     
  15. mikeyhd

    mikeyhd Notebook Consultant

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    on a side note I put the 10.1 (ASUS) drivers back, upgrade the BIOS to 209 Beta, then go to 10.5 by ATI and set the clock/mem to 699/999.

    Not a single lock up or GSOD since yesterday at 5PM EST, I have used it for more than 10 hours, so good so far
     
  16. Kalim

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    The way I understand it, in it's most basic form there are two sets of VGA drivers. There is the ATI reference set and the OEM set. The reference set is released monthly for ATI products and can also be used by OEMs to modify for their products. If the OEM has modified their cards, depending on the modifications, there can be undesired side effects when using the ATI reference set on OEM products.

    An OEM can release several versions based on the same reference set. For example, ASUS could have three 10.1 cats, with three different release dates, but all three are different versions based on the same reference set.

    Continuing with our example, when you check the driver date, that's telling you which reference driver you are using. When you check the Driver Version, that's telling you which one of the three releases you are using.

    I'm use to using the desktop ATI drivers, which are released once a month and always follow the scheme I mentioned in my earlier post. I should have made it clearer that I was talking about the reference version and with ASUS you should also be looking at the Driver Version.
     
  17. Makou107

    Makou107 Notebook Consultant

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    Here's one for you guys;

    why is it after I uninstalled 10.4 drivers, went into safe mode and used driver sweeper, then installed driver package version 8.683 from Asus does it say Catalyst version 10.4 in CCC under information center?
     
  18. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    Happens exactly as you indicated to me, only difference in my case is with 10.5. Installed 10.5 then GSOD. Uninstalled and leftover files were eliminated with "driver sweeper". Installed the stock ones from Drivers DVD and now CCC shows 10.5 :eek:

    But I'm still in 9.12 as performance continue the same.
     
  19. aramis109

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    I didn't even use driver cleaner this go-round as I didn't have it installed after my SSD upgrade and it seems to be working just fine for me. Hope you guys get it figured out- it's probably a stray registry entry or something. Try uninstall, driver cleaner and then CCleaner.
     
  20. DCx

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    ffs read page 3. If reading the entire thread is too complicated, then it's likely your computer is working too hard and is thirsty. To fix this, turn the computer on. Press the windows key, type "accept liquid cooling" (this will enable liquid cooling on your laptop) but don't press enter yet. Pour a cup of water directly on the keyboard, then press enter.

    Voila. Your computer will be running perfectly for you.
     
  21. supra12

    supra12 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone explain step by step how to correctly install ATI display drivers? Something about removing the old drivers? I had 10.4 but an option to uninstall through the ATI install manager didnt show up. Everytime ive installed ATI drivers i end up with a computer that crashes and GSOD, and not only that but my catalyst control center wont launch. ATI drivers are a real POS compared to Nvidia -_-
     
  22. Chango99

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    Go to control panel.
    >Uninstall a program
    >ATI Catalyst Install Manager
    >Express Uninstall
    >Restart
    >Install new driver
    >Restart

    ?
     
  23. stubbornswiss

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/487583-g73jh-display-driver-update-step-step-newbie-tutorial.html#post6299820

    Hope this is helpful.
     
  24. DRevan

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    When people had problems with this driver on the G73 (like GSOD), how much time did it take to show itself?
     
  25. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Definitive Guide to Uninstalling ATI Driver files (Revision 1):

    1. Run Uninstall ATI Catalyst Install Manager in Control Panel.
    2. Run Driver Sweeper.
    3. Clean files and registry with CCleaner.
    4. Reboot into Safe Mode.
    5. Run Driver Sweeper.
    6. Clean files and registry with CCleaner.
    7. Search for any files starting with ati and delete all in:
    C:\Program Files\ATI
    C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies
    C:\Program Files (x86)
    C:\Windows\System32\drivers
    C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository
    8. Open services.msc
    9. Stop the service "AMD External Events Utility"
    10. Open cmd console and type in: sc delete "AMD External Events Utility"

    Response should be: "success: [SC] DeleteService SUCCESS"
    This should delete atiesrxx.exe that is undeletable.

    11. Open services.msc again and verify that "AMD External Events Utility" has gone.
    12. Clean files and registry once more with CCleaner.
    13. Reboot and install new or older driver that works!
     
  26. Tiscan

    Tiscan Notebook Guru

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    Run Furmark for 10-15 min, mine died almost exactly 5 minutes in.
     
  27. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Running Furmark is mot recommended, it's actually a pretty stupid test IMO. Even if your system is stable, Furmark runs the risk of bricking your GPU.

    Tiscan sounds like you had some fun with the retardation that is Furmark.

    Furmark does not reflect what temperatures to expect doing ANYTHING, gaming, encoding, using ATI Stream, or video/photo hardware acceleration. All it reflects is how stupid Furmark is and then a bricked GPU. Congrats.
     
  28. DCx

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    Nah, Furmark lets you know what max temp your card will reach when playing games that aren't in existence yet. Furmark Extreme Burning mode is a bit much, though...
     
  29. Chastity

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    I'll worry about non-existant games when they come out. Also, by the time these new games come, I'll probably be on newer hardware.
     
  30. apachehavok

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    my BB model is fine. Every time I update to a newer driver I run furmark overnight in extreme burn mode. Never once had a gsod. Had some locking problems but that was all solved after uninstalled the creative software a long time ago.
     
  31. Tiscan

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    I ran Furmark because my reseller actually asked me to prior to RMAing it. I was having many issues prior to running it. I am more then aware of the stress it places on a GPU. And running it for 10 min shouldn't do any damage (imo, folks should use their own educated judgement) but it sure will trigger an event like the GSOD.
     
  32. Kalim

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    FurMark only shows the GPU MemIO temperature. Because of the higher numbers it could unnecessarily convince people that they have something wrong with their GPU, when instead it's normal.
     
  33. diegovar

    diegovar Notebook Guru

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    I've just installed the 10.5 drivers and I'm getting tiny text in window headers,m anyone experienced this?

    Here's a screenshot:

    [​IMG]

    Start menu text seems, Ok, but the text in Google Chrome and other applications is tiny. I tried changing overall text size in Control Panel to medium but this makes Windows text really large.
     
  34. aramis109

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    I'm... not seeing anything wrong in your screenshot.
     
  35. diegovar

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    How about in this one?

    [​IMG]

    As you can see, the font used in the Library window and File/Edit/View bar in VMWare workstation is larger than the one used in chrome's tabs and the header of the VMWare Workstation window.
     
  36. aramis109

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    I mean, I guess they're different but is it bad that they are?
     
  37. diegovar

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    I just solved it by going to Appearance preferences and changing the theme, must've been a blunder on my part while installing the update.
     
  38. sgte

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    It took 10 days for me to get a GSOD on 10.5.
    When it happened, it happened multi times in a row.
    Then i went back to stock.
     
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    Sorry to hear that you gave up :(
     
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    Yes, we've had this discussion several times - 3 temperature monitors on the card, and the memIO can be anywhere from 4-15 degrees higher than core.
     
  41. Kalim

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    I don't know where this "we" comes in to play, perhaps the lack of attribution has made it confusing. What I was merely pointing out is if someone doesn't understand what temperature Furmark is displaying, they could easily misinterpret the high temperature as something wrong with their GPU. And, that is always worth repeating, especially to those people who are less familiar with Furmark, MSI Afterburner and the like, who might be reading any portion of this thread.
     
  42. 2002_Viper_GTS_ACR

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    So it is best to stick with what came on the g73 stock from Asus is what everyone is saying? Mine is running some driver package version 8.683
    and a direct3d version of 8.14.10.0716

    is this the confirmed safest to be runing?

    Jon
     
  43. Chastity

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    the 10.1 package is just as stable as stock, and newer.
     
  44. DRevan

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    And it has been tested on 2 G73 and killed the VGA port+adapter :/
     
  45. panzer06

    panzer06 His Imperial Majesty

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    Just loading the 10.1 ASUS ATI driver killed the VGA port?

    Cheers,
     
  46. DRevan

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    lol ofc not, try to connect a monitor too :p
     
  47. aksi

    aksi Newbie

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    First post on this forum. I've been reading the last 30+ pages since the G73 was released.
    Damn, so scared to update anything! I'll just leave everything as is now (bought back in april. No update has been done). Works fine for me except for when I tried to play GTA IV, it was lagging like crazy (but this game should still work.???!)
    Anyways, there are three things on the link for 10.8 version. which one am I supposed to download?
    Sorry if I brought this one back from dead. Like I said, I've been reading back from when G73 was released.
     
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