Asus G73 vs This

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=e3e316e61fd7236afafd0b3dc4ee4d5aen02

Is there a big difference? Cause the price of this labtop is overprice

 

It's essentially the same thing with the Alienware label and minus, hopefully, the GSODs.

 

Alienware tend to be fairly expensive.
The G73 is better than that particular spec of M17x; it only has 500gb hard drive compared to G73's 1Tb, it only has 6Gb of RAM opposed to the G73's 8Gb.
Also the B1 version of G73 has a marginally better processor (i7 740)
G73 is the sensible buy over that spec of M17x, but it's all preference.

 

2 things to keep in mind:
-1.Alienware is expensive
-2.Alienware in Canada is way overpriced... like most.

 

The Alienware RGB LED 16:10 is the best display found on a laptop in the world, the competition doesn't even come close. The cooling (although loud for some) works very well, and the all aluminum/magnesium chassis is very attractive to many. But yes, it does have a premium to pay but those who know how to haggle a Dell sales rep can sometimes do very very well.

 

My Nexus One has an AMOLED display and I already have a burnt in strip where the status bar always is. I would be very wary of LED screens until the technology is proven.

 

For specifically a gaming notebook I'd agree. But the best screen would have to go to HP's EliteBook 8740W's IPS Display. But then this beast costs nearly another grand over the Alienware

 

AMOLED is different from LED. Also, the G73JH has a LED lit screen, as most newer laptops do.

 

wow those are the same specs of the best buy g73 for 1,000 dollars more.

 

yeah definatly not worth it,,, yeah the screen is alot better,,, and it maybe more durable of a build... but really is it 600 dollar better? i think not... maybe 100-200 dollars tops better....

personally id go for the g73... and save coin,,, u can buy so many different accessories with 600 dollars...

 

Its actaully $900 more here in Canada. My G73JH was $1500. This Alienware is $2400. Lol... And I heard Dell was crap.

 

Well depends. If you get a $400 Dell, it's a $400 laptop, what do you expect?

But a $2,500 Alienware should be very nice. Good intel CPU, with top of the line GPU from either ATi or Nvidia with a magnesium chasis and the best LCD on a gaming notebook. Cooling system while very loud does it's job.

All in all, a Dell Alienware should be an awesome machine.

 

NCIX.com - Buy MSI GX740-079US Intel i7 720QM 4GB 500GB 17IN WSXGA+ Radeon HD5870 1GB DVDRW Win 7 Premium Notebook - 9S7-17273E-079 In Canada.
same specs minus 4gig ram

 

One suggestion from me MSIX GX660.. has same specs as Asus G73 but its 15 inch ...and has less speakers.. but seriously , nothing beats G73 as as worth for money.. overall i suggest G73..

 

Ya G73 is good price, but not newbie friendly.

 

For me, it's all about the panel. And while I truly love the one on my G73 (A1 model) the one on that Alienware is a true Ferrari. I'm an admitted graphics floozy and am honestly considering selling my perfectly working G73 and putting that cash towards one of these, purely for the panel.

If you could talk to a Dell Rep who are allowed to adjust prices and get an M17X configured like this for the same price as a G73JH-A1/A2 plus an extra $200 for the panel (the cost of the upgrade when building an M17x) - I'd snatch that up in a heartbeat.

Although that HP notebook looks pretty fly too. How well can that 3800 Quadro card game?

I'll admit I've been looking hard at an Alienware set up with 2 ATI 5870m's for crossfire or whatever the forthcoming equivalent is. But it's a mighty expensive rig. If I sold my desktop and my G73 I might pull it off. But I can't decide if my desktop is worth selling or if I should just upgrade that. My desktop is an: I7 920 @ 2.66 O'C to 3.81 with a Cooler Master V8 on an EVGA X58 mobo with two EVGA NVidia GTX 275's SLI'd, 6GB DDR3 1333, and a Asus Blu-Ray Decoder soundcard, 300gb Velociraptor

So I was leaning towards keeping the desktop and upgrading the SLI GTX 275's for an SLI GTX 460 for DX11 gaming.

Or selling the desktop as is and my G73 and putting the earning from both into an M17x crossfire (or potentially SLI depending on the next Nvidia chipset Alienware rolls with)

All because I like the idea of having a desktop quality rig, while cumbersome, still portable enough to fit into a backpack. And if I get stuck playing on it, knowing I have the best notebook display panel possible to enjoy the experience.

My understanding was that if that's what one wanted, their choices were limited to Dell and the RGB panel on the Alienware and other high end Dell machines.

Now that Ziddy has kindly pointed out that there's notebooks with better screens than that, like I said above, I'm curious as to how well they could game? Because if it's comparable or only a few fps difference, I'd gladly lose those fps for a panel co-designed by Dreamworks studios

 

Does someone sell the RGBLED panels separately in a 17.3"?

 

For those prices, I'd expect at least USB 3.0, bigger storage, and a Ci7 820. But hey, thats just me.

Be wary though. While the G73 has its hefty share of problems (GSODs, keyboard lag, etc), the M17x isn't without its problems....check the alienware forums...if you haven't done it already.

I'm sounding like a broken record here.....but I will say this again (and god knows for the nth time) get an MSI GX740 or the GTX660...a lot cheaper than AW, and more stable with better support than the G73....

 

The HP EliteBook has the best 17" LCD panel that I know of. And it's not just by a little margin, but a very noticeable increase over the Alienware.

Put it this way. Alienware RGB is sort of a gimmick that works to impress gamers. It's just RGB, red green and blue separated. The HP is a professional IPS LCD, this thing has more color than any LCD I know of, the best of everything, contrast and viewing angles. IPS displays are made for artists, designers where viewing angle and retention of color and quality remains at all times. Alienware has nothing, absolutely nothing on this display, it's beat in every single way.

- The GPU used is more than enough for games.
- Uses the to top of the line FireGL which is a HD5870 but for professional work. Nvidia doesn't have an alternative yet, I haven't seen a FERMI Quadro yet.

The HP has better cooling than G73, but definitely louder. The HP is the best there is IMO. It is made to withstand extreme conditions, pressure, heat etc. It uses an extremely resistant alloy, all metal. The Alienware magnesium for show, the HP actually has a purpose.
- The HP is certified military spec!

That's my take between Alienware and HP. The gaming performance of the HP is just as good as G73.

 

Ooooh. Very interesting. I'm going to look at this one hard. I wish there was a crossfire option, but I could probably let that go for the better panel.

Thanks Ziddy for the info! It helps a lot

 

This HP gaming labtop seems to be decent.

HP ENVY 17 series | HP Official Store

At futureshop in Canada, if you purchase an Envy HP Labtop, you get a free Xbox 360 but I think they jacked up the price on the labtops, meaning not really free.

 

Yeah it's pretty nice but not nearly the same. Unlike MSI's single fan solution, the HP is not effective. The HD5850 isn't nearly on the same performance as HD5870M. So while it's pretty, and has good performance for a pretty notebook (What a MacBook should be for it's price ROFL), it's not quite the same.

Vs G73, IMO the competition would be a highly priced Sager (Sager stock is half of G73), Alienware (Again half of G73), MSI GX740 (again half of G73).

All competitions to G73jh when compared to A1 or A2 model, is about $500 more at minimum with same specs.

 

for this kind of price, doesn't really matter if I don't have a functional hdmi or vga.

 

Ziddy stop spilling bull$hit and get your facts straight.
Heres your comparison:

ASUS G73JH-A2 STOCK
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)-
- ASUS Zero Bright Dot (ZBD) 30 Day Pixel Guarantee
- - Intel® Core™ i7-720QM, 1.60-2.80GHz, (45nm, 6MB L3 cache) - Standard
- Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD5870 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- 8,192MB (8GB) DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2GBx4) - Standard
- Standard Finish
- - Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti 8X DVDRW Drive w/ Software-
- - 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache Buffer (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s) - Default
- - 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache Buffer (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s) - Default
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay (When adding Hard Drive, Optical Drive Is Removed)
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 8-in-1 Card Reader: MMC/SD/Mini-SD/XD/Memory Stick/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Asus G Series Matching Backpack made by Targus
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- No Fingerprint Reader
- Asus G Series Gaming Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Pre-Installed + Drivers & Utilities Disk
- No thanks, do not create backup recovery DVD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 2 Year ASUS GLOBAL Warranty 24/7 Support / 1 Year North America (N.A.) Accidental Coverage (Accidental Requires Registration)
- No Xotic PC Gear
$1,549.00

Sager NP8760 Built as Stock G73JH (better, since i7-720qm and 1066mhz ram are not available anymore)
- 17.3" FHD LED Backlit 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1080)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Intel® Core™ i7-740QM, 1.73-2.93GHz, (45nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD5870 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)~
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- 11.1V Smart Li-Polymer battery pack 3800mAh, 42.18Wh
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
- No Xotic PC Gear
$1,869.00

As you can see the Sager is roughly 300$ more but you can chalk some of that up to a better CPU and better RAM, and for that you get a fully working laptop (No GSODs, Working HDMI and VGA, No missing keystrokes...) and you get much more for that money like better build quality, better cooling (yes a bit louder but not so much) firewire, esata, raid, easy access to components...
Splintah if you think its not worth paying a bit more for a better laptop that actually has EVERYTHING WORK so you can play and work on it i feel sorry for your logic. You payed a bit less and got a lower quality, half broken product and its sad you consider that a good thing. As i said, this is why Asus simply doesnt care.

 

Aside from the high markup, not really