Asus G73JW at GenTech for 1645$

GenTechPC has put up the Asus G73JW (A1 Model) for pre-order for 1645$, it comes with 1920x1080 FHD LED glossy screen, a CPU options of i7 740QM, i7 840Qm, and i7 940QM, RAM options of 8GB, 12GB, or 16GB, 1TB Hard Drive, Blu-ray, And nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1.5GB GDDR5 VRAM DX11

Check it out:
Asus G73JW-A1 17.3" FHD/NV GTX 460M 1.5GB GDDR5/i7-740QM/8GB DDR3/1TB 7200rpm/Blu-Ray/ETA 09/16/2010: GenTech PC Store

 

And so it begins....

The USB 3.0 would be nice for a touch of future-proof but other than that it's pretty similar to the G73JH in terms of gaming performance.
CPU is slightly better and GPU should be slightly lower so it comes down to a pretty similar product. (not taking into account the Nvidia vs ATI fanboy war of course)

Bottom line, it's just as awesome as the previous iteration and that's the way it should be.

 

maybe now there'll be no GSODs on that with better temps. but correct me if i'm wrong, wasnt the G73JW ang G53 suppose to have a matte screen?

 

I wonder how much is the power consumption of the 460m, if its bigger than 50 watts, it would be hotter than the 5870.

 

I just had nvidia card so far, but I've more or less decided to buy the g73jh since there are that few differences between the two models..

Are there any ATI-related problems with the JH which I would avoid with the JW?

If you were buying a new computer would you go for the jh or wait for the jw, and why?

 

At this time, pending a resolution with the GSOD GPU issues, I would suggest waiting for the JW. The nvidia card won't have this problem, and it's annoying.

 

the link's dead.

100 watts

 

Since they are the same price. I wonder if they will allow us to trade our ATI versions in if they cant solve the ATI non stock driver issues.

 

That will never happen since the stock drivers work just fine and thats all they ever have to guarantee to work... Sadly...

 

Source?

And in that 50wat TDP, doesn't ATI just count the GPU itself (and not bus or memory) in their TDP? I remember reading that somewhere.

 

thats funny... Gentech no longer has it on the site

 

Link for Asus G73JW at GenTech is dead, no searchable info on site.

 

Maybe they are waiting for nvidia to announce the mobile 460M and the rest of the fermi gpus?

 

same thing happened when they posted the g53

 

Product Not Found:
The product you are looking for does not exist or has been removed.

may be ASUS is considering replacing the 460 with the 480 lol

 

Damn w8ing for this lap is a b!tch.. everyday we see something new then bam its gone!!

 

question is - is it worth the wait or should ppl just get the jh :/

 

if it dint have issues i say the jh from what i have been hearing 5870 vs. 260m.
saw some tests where the 480m only beat the 5870 by 3-6% unless heavy tessellation was used,,, so even then i would go ATI.

BUT BUT BUT BUT GSOD GSOD GSOD so if asus doesnt fix jh soon then there is no choice

 

The TDP numbers are completely incompatible between ATI and NVIDIA.

Source: Notebookcheck: Review NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M "Fermi" in the Clevo D901F

Source: techPowerUp :: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 Fermi Review :: Page 36 / 36

Here's some independent measurements:
HD 5870 vs. GTX 480 - Page 2 | The PC Report
NVIDIA?s GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470: 6 Months Late, Was It Worth the Wait? - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

None of this is directly relevant to the 460, though.

 

those above are the comparison for the desktop version. if the mobile version having those tdp, i wonder how big the brick we are carrying

 

This is really the reason stopping me from getting a G73JH.. aren't there ppl with G73's which work with ATI drivers?

 

Yes there are, but there are much more people who can't.

 

A lot of people have a G73JH which works fine. We just don't start new threads simply to gloat that all is fine

 

Yeah I know, I intentionally posted the desktop TDP numbers to show that the official numbers are incompatible garbage. I haven't seen any real TDP numbers for the 460M yet. If you find some make sure to post.

 

Sorry for bumping, I'm going to kill myself if I don't make a decision soon... I have 2 choices -

1. Get my hands on the G73JH-A2 in 10 days exactly and start playing with GSOD threats, drivers, etc.

or

2. Wait the G73JW for unspecified amount of time, probably at least 2 months and then deal with high temps (as usual for nVidia) and probably a bit higher price ...

Can anyone help me make a decision here ?

 

I was making the same decision and decided to wait for the G73JW rather than spend a lot of time with drivers and SODs

 

if you need it urgent now, get it now. if keep on waiting, it will be the never ending waiting game.

 

Just get a JH now, play with it, if it doesnt give you any problems, dont mess with it. Overclocking and unnecessary driver and bios updates will put you in a problem loop that wont end.

 

nobody remember the g1s (my poor g1s :_ rest in peace) and the defective nvidia 8600gt? ((and 8400gt and 9650) (and the 8600 drivers that locked freq etc etc...)

I do not trust nvidia anymore (at least for Mobile GPUs)

 

lol if the JWs come with even more GPU issues than the JH.

 

Get the MSI Gx660.

 

I'm still using mine as my main computer, it's working 24/7

 

JH come with issues if you install a generic driver, with the ASUS driver it works fine (9.12 and 10.1)...

In the g1s we couldn´t change asus drivers without change some lines in the .inf files of the generics drivers (and a lot of tweaks more for the 2D-3D freq)


Predator_MF i hate you! .All ppl I know have their g1s in heavens

 

Yeah, that's why I'm preparing for mine going there too, I want the G73 so bad, but so many threads about GSOD lately I got scared Still, I think nVidia one would outperform the ATI in most cases, but I'm worried about temps....
Any word on the JW version ETA ?

 

but GSOD only occurs if you use an unssuported driver.

mmm, I dont know when the JW comes, but it seems to be for preorder in some webs "Asus G73JW-A1 17.3" FHD/NV GTX 460M 1.5GB GDDR5/i7-740QM/8GB DDR3/1TB 7200rpm/Blu-Ray/ Pre-Order"

But 460M < 5870 probably. And 460 is a Fermi GPU, and fermi are so hot and eat a lot of W, even so do not worry about as temperatures, you can always cook with the laptop or put a peltier cell like my g1s

 

Man you are pushing me to the edge...one more word from you and I'll press "order" on the JH version...

I'm more used to XP because of the developing tools I use, I'll probably install Win 7 only for migrating some of my programs to it and not using it for gaming...
I don't remember seeing any comments about XP stability and performance, are there any issues there ?

 

I have not tried XP in g73jh.. but... i7 with HT (winXP does not distinguish between real and virtual cores)... 5870 (not dx10-dx11 in xp) 8gb RAM...(xp 64b...)

If I were you, i would install win 7 pro with built-in XP MODE (it is a wonderfull utility(virtual machine with xp license ) to run legacy devices )

 

Anybody know where to pre-order it since the link is dead??

 

its dead. waiting on official annoucnement from nVidia.

 

Looks like it's finally up.

I guess the GPUs are finally announced by nvidia? Well, the G73JW looks like a mighty fine machine.

 

Yep, Ken has the link back up.........

Asus G73JW-A1 17.3" FHD/NV GTX 460M 1.5GB GDDR5/i7-740QM/8GB DDR3/1TB 7200rpm/Blu-Ray/ Pre-Order: GenTech PC Store

...... and it would SEEM, the 460M will out-pace the 5870 by a smidgen. NICE specs & nice price..... and FINALLY, USB 3.0 & HDMI 1.4. SWEET!

 

Looks like it might be a nice machine, but I don't see how the 460m will even compete with the 580, much less surpass it. The 460m is expected to be a pretty inferior card to the 5870, at least from what I have seen. Also, it is a little too bad there seems not to be any "real 3D" built into the laptop itself. From what the page you linked to says, you have to have a 3D TV and hook the laptop output into it. What good is that for 99% of the people who buy this laptop and don't have a 3D TV?

 

the 3D version with 120Hz screen will be available in November.

The current G73JW model comes with HDMI 1.4, so if people already have a 3DTV at home they can watch 3D movies or play games in 3D on their bigger screen TV.

 

Note the emphasis on the word 'SEEM', according to ASUS's marketing. Agreed, it is always better to see real-world results, rather than pre-sales hype. As far as 3D, the G73JW is slated for a true 3D 120hz 1080p model...... possibly to be released in November.

 

LOL! Hi Ken!

You beat me to the reply, LOL! Ya know, what's held me back from getting with you on the MSI model, is the 15.4 screen. This one may well be my next lappy!

 

Really, there's no way to 'expect' anything. The 460m uses a new architecture, and without any benchmarks, there is no way of knowing just how well it performs.

I think it's quite possible that the 460m will have better DX11 performance than the 5870. Of course, ATi (or now AMD) could rectify that with the 6000-series. Either way, I think if the 460m can come within 5% of the 5870's performance, it'll be a worthwhile card. Past a certain point, performance for performance's sake just doesn't make sense anymore.

 

Hurry up and make up your mind, it's been more than one year since W90Vp.

 

I seriously doubt that. THink about it. The 480 is just a smidge faster than the 5870. The 460 is going to be a cheapened 4xx card, or rather a budget Nvidia card. There is simply no way that it will compete with the 5870.

 

Ken informed me of the JW but told him to get lost .. JH will trash the JW for sure.. i don't really care of HDMI 1.4 port and USB3.0 port as i don't need them.. looks like JW might be a flop..

 

I don't know about that. I think that it may be a flop in that it will be overpriced considering what you get with the lappy, but with enough fervor from the gaming community, it may still do very well in terms of sales and marketing. Just look around this forum at how everyone is literally salivating over the B1's for absolutely no reason I can see. A 20 MHz bump in the processor? Fixing issues that should have been (and probably already have been fixed in the A line anyway) in the first place? And for that, you have to pay between $100.00 and $200.00 more? Really?

Yet people even in this forum seem to be buying it, and they are already taking pre-orders for the JW.