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    Asus G73jh BIOS 211

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by DRevan, Aug 6, 2010.

  1. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    You would need that BTO Tech video, since you will need to do a full disassembly to get to the GPU properly. Or you could take a dremel and cutout the bottom panel around the GPU for quickest access, however, I think Asus would notice it. ;)
     
  2. Dkumagai

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    Even if you cut out the bottom panel to get to the underside of the motherboard, the fan screws are on the other side. I'm not sure how difficult it would be to remove the radiator/heatpipe/heasink from the bottom without removing the fan. But I digress,I know you were kidding.

    Anyway, completely dismantling your G73 is pretty much the minimum you would need to do to get to the GPU. While the GPU is located on the bottom of the board, you can't get to it from the main access panel.
     
  3. ziddy123

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    Yeah if you are planning to cut out the bottom of the G73, I'd do a really large rectangle so that it also has access to the fans, not just to the GPU.

    It would actually be a great modification IMO if you plan on doing it.

    As Chastity mentioned, the BTO Tech video makes it very clear how to dissassemble. Just go slow, step by step and keep careful track where each screw goes. I know it's tedious but the way I do is it I have containers I put the screws and I labeled where the screws went.

    All the reseller sites use IC 7 not the 24. You should be fine with 7, Ken @ GenTech and those who had it done by him have had incredible results with IC 7.

    When using IC 7 please note it is recommended to use the drop method. Don't spread the IC 7, just place a drop in the middle, and place the heatsink right on top. The heat will distribute the IC 7 properly.

    http://www.innovationcooling.com/applicationinstructions.htm

    They say applying a light haze on the heatsink could prevent air pocket, see the very bottom.
     
  4. soldier69

    soldier69 Newbie

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    Yes when looking for my G73JH I noticed most were using the 7 carat, when looking at prices, 7 dollars compared to 20 makes a lot of sense from the resellers point. however if the 24 carat paste can somehow reduce the temps by another 5 degrees or so, possibly extending the life of certain components, then i think the addition 13 dollars would be worth it. however if the 7 carat pretty much does as much as a paste can do, then there is no point in paying the extra money if a re paste is needed.

    FYI I should be receiving my G73JH-A1 in 6.5 hours, thru all of the forums here on NBR I believe I know most of the problems to watch for and how to fix little quirks about this laptop, as well as updating and upgrading when needed, I appreciate everyone help
     
  5. Flyer2010

    Flyer2010 Newbie

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    Hi folks - I'm trying to find the place to post a question (being a newbie) on updating the bios in my G73jh. I've only just picked it up and the current bios version is 08.00.10, dated 10/30/09. Can I just flash to the latest bios 211 and automatically pick up the firmware updates etc from the previous 204, 205, 206 and 209? Or do I have to flash each one separately before I get to the magic 211?

    Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask - any tips would be much appreciated

    Cheers
     
  6. bossman-x

    bossman-x Notebook Enthusiast

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    You can flash directly to the latest version. However, I suggest you browse these forums and read about people losing their keyboard lights when they update their bios. I didn't, but many did.
     
  7. Flyer2010

    Flyer2010 Newbie

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    Thanks. I've read the threads on the lights going out and the percentages of those copping the out and those that didn't get stung. So if I flash to the latest bios 211 does that mean it WILL pick up all the previous updates?

    Cheers
     
  8. Dkumagai

    Dkumagai Notebook Consultant

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    When you flash your BIOS, you are completely removing the old software and replacing it with a new version. v211 should contain all of the previous fixes. Unless, of course, they reintroduce old bugs in the code.
     
  9. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    I'm going to be lazy, and the vbios isn't out yet but can someone point me to a guide on how to update the vbios?
     
  10. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    24 carat is wishful thinking. Even IC Diamond 7 only SOMETIMES has better results than AS5/MX/OCZ. There are some reviews that show AS5 having better results, some ICD7.

    But in all results, the differences are like 1-2C only. So I doubt a higher carat diamond would result in 5C of differences. Average according to Innovation Cooling is about 3C of difference.

    You can try it, but their are so many variables that it would be hard to tell if it was the 24 or 7 as culprit. Whether the heatsink is sitting properly, whether the thermal pads thickness are correct, whether you applied the paste properly and so on.

    Anyways, I'd still think ICD 7 would be more than fine. If there was significant difference with 24, I think there would be a lot of reviews and excitement about it. But I haven't read any tbh.
     
  11. Chastity

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    I would think application has more to do with it than just the paste.
     
  12. HeavenCry

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    Application is the most important.
    Most high end pastes (ICD, MX-3, Freeze...) only give around 1C difference in temperatures as you can see in most reviews (those that are not done by manufacturer or clearly biased).
    Just make sure its non conductive and choose the one you prefer working with. My favourite is MX-2 or MX-3.
     
  13. WarWyrm001

    WarWyrm001 Notebook Consultant

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    I just want to clarify something.
    IC diamond 7 and IC diamond 24 are the same thermal compound. The only difference with ICD24 is you get a bigger tube of paste.
    A carat is a unit of measure of weight for precious stones equal to 200mg therefore in IC diamond 7 you get 7 carats of synthettic diamond powder in each tube of paste while you get 24 in ICD24.
    Same compound, different size so really it's just clever marketing strategy.
    Unless you use need alot for future projects just get the ICD7.
     
  14. Flyer2010

    Flyer2010 Newbie

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    Thanks for that - I'll flash tonight and fingers crossed.
     
  15. swaaye

    swaaye Notebook Evangelist

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    I just buy AS Ceramique these days because it's very cheap and still great quality. I've been round the block with the various fancy pastes, all the way back to Arctic Silver 2. It's just not worth it. A few degrees really does not matter. I've actually seen some reviews that show Ceramique beating Arctic Silver 5! The real issue that helps spread misinformation is that many of the reviews of pastes are done with worthless testing methodology and the results are meaningless.

    When it comes to thermal interfaces in computers the big concerns are:
    1) That you do use some sort of paste!
    2) That it does not dry out or separate over time.
    3) That you apply it properly (see AS's site for instructions)

    The paste that companies use is frequently as good as almost anything you can buy yourself. It's just that sometimes the companies apply it poorly (typically when they don't apply enough and don't get full coverage). Some (maybe many) of the aftermarket pastes are even just rebranded OEM stuff ( look up Shin Etsu rebrands, for example).
     
  16. Shajjer

    Shajjer Notebook Guru

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    A somewhat dumb question but... How do i check what Bios version i got? The swedish G73 just came out so not sure what bios they have.
     
  17. swaaye

    swaaye Notebook Evangelist

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    BIOS version is listed in the BIOS setup.
     
  18. notyou

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    Or fire up CPUz
     
  19. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    or "When Windows starts, the OS loads information about the main computer BIOS and video BIOS and stores the following information under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DESCRIPTION\System registry subkey:

    * SystemBiosDate
    * SystemBiosVersion
    * VideoBiosDate
    * VideoBiosVersion

    This information appears in the registry for informational purposes only; changing these items' values has no effect on the system."
     
  20. Flyer2010

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    Followed the flash instructions and moved on up to 211. All good, took no time at all and everything is working like a snake charmer. Lights are fully active and SP Conviction is flowing fine. Also stepped up the ATI driver to 10.7 - also no dramas. First time for both events and I'm a happy camper. Oh - I ran WinOptimizer 7 and it cleaned up a freakin ton of redundant files and registry stuff. This was straight after the BIOS flash, because I did one before hand as well. Many thanks for the clear instructions, particularly re using a FAT32 usb thumbdrive and not using the freakin ASUS windows flash thing.

    Cheers and stuff :)
     
  21. donludovit

    donludovit Newbie

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    so yesterday I update my bios on G73 from 209 to 211....everithing was look OK, but when I using my laptop on battery and I turn off for example on 59% of battery remaining, then I turn on my laptop show me I have 100% of battery remaining...thats so bad, cause when I using computer then show me I have 60% of battery remainig, but in fact I have only few % to hard shutdown, cause battery is empty....this is I think big problem, and I must flash bios back to 209...do you have this problem too? :confused:
     
  22. Soret2

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    Anyone know any asus tech guy who are in contact with a creator?

    I want to call them up.

    And....

    Explain them what the hell is going on.

    This is ridiculous how incompetent they are to find this damn error.
     
  23. BumbleBoner

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    Just need a quick popular opinion on whether or not to flash this official update if you don't mind.

    If i read all the pages right, other than the bluetooth/wireless stuff, the advantages to this update is a modification to the fan controls where they spool to max speed earlier and leads to lower temps at load but higher noise levels?

    If it is higher noise levels, can you kind fellows (and lady) who've updated to Bios211 report whether you noticed a louder G73?

    FWIW, I'm perfectly content at Bios 209, with no inherent issues, but would like to "benefit" from what is essentially Asus' quick and dirty fix to the overheating issues.

    I've had good temperatures all along, but that was with air-conditioning. It broke down the other day and I noticed the temps weren't exactly what I'd call ideal. 60C idle at stock clocks and 52C downclocked.

    Thoughts and reports appreciated. :)
     
  24. Chastity

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    I don't find the fan noise much different when on load while gaming, but my temps sure like the fan speed. :)
     
  25. Rhynoxx

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    @BumbleBoner
    I upgraded to Bios 211 simply because I like to stay updated, and in some games I have noticed the fan kicks in to full speed quicker than usual, but I don't mind the noise at all because it doesn't bother me anyway. And you should be happy with your 60C idle at stock/52C downclocked :p I idle at 60C downclocked. Really, idle temps anywhere from 50C to 60C on stock clocks are fine. Chastity got down to 47C because she repasted. Oh and also since upgrading to Bios 211, I've noticed that on some games where my TSS1 would max out at 95-98, it now maxes at 90C, so the new bios has definitely helped my heat problems a little - plus I just got a cooler which has helped to lower my temps even further.
     
  26. BumbleBoner

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    Just what I needed to know. Thanks Rhynoxx and Lady Chastity.

    I'll be a-flashin' now.
     
  27. Dkumagai

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    What's weird about v211 is that the fan speed seems to be dependent upon your dispIO temp. For me, it seems to kick into high gear when dispIO is at 80C, seems totally independent of my memIO. The fans will actually switch between high and low as my dispIO fluctuates between 78 and 80C.
     
  28. Shotgunslayerrr

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    hi guys,
    I am about to update my bios to 211 just one quick question.
    If i follow the guide from dRevan on the 1st page of this thread and use the official bios file 211 from Asus website, will it fine ? have anyone tried it and was successful?
    If the answer is no, Can u guys give me link to a guide of updating bios211 on asus g73jh? Thanks..
     
  29. empc

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    Didn't someone brick his G73 by flashing to 211 bios??
    I ve waited so long for someone to bring me my laptop from usa cause i send it for rma(overheating and crackling sound issues) and i live in mexico , it would be really shamefull to make the update and !!total brick !!or keybord lights death!!
     
  30. DRevan

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    1) If you do everything correctly, you woN't brick your laptop with bios flash
    2) if you loose keyboard lights, you can fix it without a problem
     
  31. empc

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    shoud i remove the battery when i flash it??
    or it can be there obiously connected with ac adapter
     
  32. <MarkS>

    <MarkS> Notebook Village Idiot

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    NO!!

    Leave the battery in...charged. Also have the unit running on AC.

    With the battery you get a free UPS in case the AC fails...
     
  33. Black Gun

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    u should have both, the adapter and the battery, plugged in while flashing. this way, if one of the 2 power sources fails, u still have the other one. the only thing that must be avoided at any cost while flashing is a power outage. therefore it is highly unrecommended to flash while only on battery.
     
  34. Mikelangelo8

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    Just installed the bios 211 and everything is working fine. I haven't tested it gaming-wise, and I probably won't see any major difference to begin with.

    But I will "feel" as though my temps are lower, hoping that is the case because of this update, seriously, updating the bios is scary stuff for me.

    For more reassurance for those who haven't updated yet, I formatted my USB to FAT32, put in the 211 bio file, restarted, went to the bios, went to the advanced tab, Start EASYFLASH, picked the file, just like the other people said. They weren't lying! :p

    It installed in 20 seconds, although it was the longest 20 seconds of my life because I forgot to put in the battery and in my head I was thinking "The power is going out, it would, I forgot to put in the battery just in case the power does go out". But it didn't so yay
     
  35. peterwiggin

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    Just updated to BIOS 211 on my G73JH-RBBX05 and everything is working great except that bluetooth is missing now. Fn + F2 only brings up WLAN too.

    Anyone else have this problem?
     
  36. Chastity

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    Nope. Check the BIOS under USB security and see if it's Locked.
     
  37. Meloncamp87

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    I can't seem to get the BIOS to flash for me. Every time I get to the Easy Flash Utility, I go to FS0,use the right arrow key and it does not show the BIOS in my flash drive.
     
  38. JehutyZeroshift

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    You should make sure that the you have formatted your Flash Drive with FAT32 using the HP USB Tool, then paste the bios file alone on the flash drive. Run Easy Flash Utility again and do as what you have already done. If it still doesn't work, try to use a different flash drive and format it again with FAT32.
     
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    I have tried with 2 different flash drives. I am not sure why it is not finding the file. I have put both in the front left USB Port.
     
  41. JOSEA

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    I would try a different USB port, especially if you machine has USB3
     
  42. Chastity

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    it's possible the rom file is corrupt. redownload it.
     
  43. LuCkyM3

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    ok so i got te kb light problem so how do i fix it?
     
  44. sirIsaacNewbton

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    why shouldnt you use winflash? i have used it for all bios up to 213. did i just get lucky that it worked?
     
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    G73JH-RBBX05 Does not have Bluetooth.
     
  47. JOSEA

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    From what I have read it is not a matter of luck, there is just less chance of bricking your machine with Flash initiated from BIOS. I am sure many have had no issues with winflash because they may not even be aware that the alternative flash procedure exists.
     
  48. laptopfan88

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    Also depends on Windows. If your Windows locks up while flashing, you have bricked your machine. But for Bios, there is no reason to use winflash, it's borderline stupid.

    The Bios has a Bios Flash system built into it...
     
  49. DCx

    DCx Banned!

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    I used to use winflash all the time, so when I got a bad flash I could immediately re-flash it. Decided to switch to ezflash because ... well, just because. I still don't mind winflash, but my computer isn't clogged up with applications that could cause a system hang in the middle of it (No adobe or apple background processes, etc...)
     
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