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    Asus G73jh Blinking Battery Led

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by emreowski, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. emreowski

    emreowski Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    About a week ago I found my battery led flashing in orange. I ve been using the notebook with both battery and AC on for a long time (yeah I know its the reason nvm). I can use the notebook on battery if I start it with the AC on and then unplug the adapter. However it does not start windows with only battery on. Is it dead already?

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Mine did this for a while and it was not the battery but it was not charging correctly.

    That wear is very high but I dont think that is giving you a true reading the best thing to do is to fully charge the battery and then stick it on a prime test to drain the battery and when it hits the shut down limit around 5-7% shut it down and then fire it back up and let it sit in the BIOS Setup F2 until it completely shuts down when it hits 0% and then recharge it completely while it is off and the recheck the wear and see if that works.

    Its the best way I find to calibrate a battery and my voltage jumped up by 2volts when I did this on my netbook because is was way out of sync.
     
  3. emreowski

    emreowski Notebook Consultant

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    I will give it a try, thanks for the reply :)
     
  4. emreowski

    emreowski Notebook Consultant

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    although the battery seemed to have 80-90% power available, the notebook shut itself down without giving any warning after 30 minutes. again on BIOS screen it shutted down in less than 15 secs. the battery does not seem to be empty after plugging in the adapter. the led went completely dark after charging around 88%. it is not blinking anymore, no light at all after charging to this level. it seemed orange until charging up to this level as normal, but no green light at all :) any suggestions?
     
  5. JOSEA

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    Your current capacity seems low compared to mine. Did any of your stats change after the calibration suggested by Yiddo? Do know someone that will swap batteries with you temporarily to test the charging circutry in your machine?
    (have you cleaned the contact points on the machine and the battery? )
    ~@ Yiddo finally go the Zalman 3000S - very happy with it! Kudos for your recommendation!
     
  6. Hrogi

    Hrogi Notebook Consultant

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    I agree something is not right.

    Here is my screen shot and I show allot less issues.

    for the past 18 months, I plug my laptop into power for 10 hours at work and 3 hours at home.

    Just so you have an idea of the uses..

    I how the calibrate helps you out.
     

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  7. emreowski

    emreowski Notebook Consultant

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    It started blinking again, now it does not charge over %82.9 :)
    On startup icon I see an estimate of 3 hours and 3 minutes, just about doubled the normal time lol. Probably it will shut down in about 30 minutes :)

    [​IMG]

    Edit: it lasted around 15 minutes, not even 30 :) And the i cannot reach to bios screen after that level, it just shuts itself down. After plugging in, it shows the battery level on 40%. And the wear level increased significantly. Apparently i need to try a different battery :)

    [​IMG]

    Wear level changes each time i plug out the adapter and replug it back. Doesnt make sense lol
     
  8. Toxictaru

    Toxictaru Notebook Consultant

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    Likely your battery failing (mine did exactly the same thing).

    That being said, you can try to reset the battery and see if that helps. Do whatever you have to do to run the battery totally dry (turn off any Windows warnings, or find something to use a lot of power in DOS mode). Then charge it back to full. It should fix up any weird reporting, but at the same time, remember your battery is possibly dying.

    As I said, this exact thing happened to me. My battery started going weird, reporting odd charge and wear levels. Lights would blink, light would go off. Eventually it cleared up, but my wife ran my laptop on battery for a while and totally destroyed it. I had another battery I could use to test, and the blinking stopped, and charged normally. I ended up just buying a new one.
     
  9. Yiddo

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    Nice ;) I love mine.

    @op after calibration your wear is still too high I would say that is a failing battery as mentioned above it looks as though it needs replacing. You could try to old stick it in a waterproof bag in a freezer trick and see if that works but its only a gamble mostly and wont replace a new battery.
     
  10. emreowski

    emreowski Notebook Consultant

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    Another problem is that I am not able to drain all the power from the battery, it does not go down from 40% level. After this level, it shuts down even on the bios screen.

    Thanks for the replies :) Didnt heard the freezer trick before, I will give it a try.
     
  11. yonireshef83

    yonireshef83 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hate to break it to you, you just need to buy a new battery mate.
    Here's a good place to start:
    www.laptopbatteriesplanet.com - you can search for your battery there or in any other laptop battery sites out there.

    Cheers!
     
  12. Kosobecny

    Kosobecny Newbie

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    Hello, i have Asus G73jh, and my problem is a little biger then yours, i cannot turn out AC, after this my NB shut down.. So for this I can't do calibration... Its really weird.. After 1.5 years can battery lose 100% capacity? And Everest show me that the battery is still 83% of total capacity. battery_capacity.PNG
     
  13. ALLurGroceries

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    The battery LED blinks when there is a problem in the battery circuit, usually it is the battery but it can also be the circuit itself inside the laptop. It can also be a failing AC adapter, but usually the battery charge will just decrease until it gets to 0 and it will be obvious that it's the AC adapter not providing enough power to charge the battery.

    If the battery won't power the laptop at all, yet reports a charge, you can either try it in another G73 if you have access to one, or take a gamble with buying a new battery and hope it works... The battery gauge is just a chip on the battery and it can fail too.
     
  14. Toxictaru

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    Which is why its simplest to start with a flat reset first. It can help remove a lot of the questions. I was fortunate enough to figure that my problem was the battery itself dying. My brother has the same Asus laptop as me (we bought ours within a few days of each other), and he had a brand new battery (had to RMA, sadly) that we knew for sure worked. Quick test and realized it worked just fine. Took a couple of weeks and then just bought a new battery, no issues.

    Yeah, there are more than a couple of reasons, but its likely the obvious: dead battery. Oh also, I should mention that mine died within a year and a half, so it absolutely isn't outside the realm of possibility that it can go quickly.
     
  15. rfielder

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    I just tried that site, and it does not list the G73 at all.
     
  16. kimiraikkonen

    kimiraikkonen Notebook Evangelist

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    I have similar problem related to my G53JW.

    My G53JW is a 3 year-old and the battery is always contained in the laptop even when i don't use battery.

    Recently, though my battery keeps my laptop powered on just fine, i sometimes (lately more often) i see battery icon is blinkin orange.

    I temporarily fix it by removing out the battery and re-inserting.

    But after a few days, it happens.

    What can i do except calibrating (draining and re-chanrging) battery???
     
  17. pato

    pato Notebook Evangelist

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    You could replace the battery if you don't want to drain and re-charge it. But probably it's slowly nearing it's life-end.
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

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    It's likely that yes as it nears the end of it's life it will trigger the low bat warning.
     
  19. kimiraikkonen

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    I did the draining. The battery is now NOT charging due to being below required voltage, which is higher than 14 v. It says charging but in fact no, it's stucked at %5 for 2 hours. What should i do now?

    Calibration attempt destroyed my battery, shortly!....
     
  20. grsadr

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    Hello, i have a simmilar (or identical) issue with my Asus R501VB. I know it's not exactly a gaming laptop but the issue seems almost identical:
    battery LED flashes orange green almost always after the battery is fully charged. I'm considering sending to service since i have 1 year of warranty left.
     
  21. ALLurGroceries

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    Typically the battery warranty is 1 year on machines that have a 2 year warranty. If you are within that period I would request a replacement battery.
     
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    Guys. If you read my posts when you get the flashing orange light it means your battery cells have worn to the point where they don't perform to the minimum design specs. Doing the calibration can get solve this minor problem, but unless your battery is relatively new there is a high risk of totally damaging the cells. This is due to the average quality cells used in the battery pack. Mine is modified and uses top grade Panasonic cells which can be drained more without so much damage. Just be aware that there is no magic happening here. Lithium cells wear over time and there is nothing you can do about it except replacing them. If a battery is critical to you i suggest you buy at least a spare battery, and return the original one if it is under warranty. Even a new cheap chinese battery will perform better than a worn original battery.
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

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    Just be wary that a cheap Chinese one won't most likely meet minimum safety standards.
     
  25. Mishu Daniel

    Mishu Daniel Newbie

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    I registered this forum only to post my experience with Asus battery issue.
    I have a N56VZ since end of 2012. Shortly after 1 year the battery started losing power, the AC adapter was not able to charge it fully, but didn't bother doing anything.
    After ~1,5 years I had the same orange LED flashing while the battery was not charging anymore, or sometimes charging up to 80-85%.
    Lastly, the laptop ended up in shutting down itself after 5-10 minutes with no warning (when the battery level was > 40%).
    I found new batteries for ~24Euro (Germany) or ~120 Euro.
    Of course first one is a cheap chinese crap which as Meaker said will not last for sure.
    About 2nd one I cannot tell anything but I'm frustrated as the battery got damaged so fast, why shall I spend the money on another one of same kind?
    I have to mention I really took care of it, didn't keep the battery inserted while using it as "desktop".
    All the time waited to go low then fully charged it and left it outside somewhere just to preserve its life.
    Useless!!!

    So here is what I did: disassembled the battery and measured the voltage across all elements.
    There are 6 x 18650, each supplying up to 4,2Volt ~2,6Amps.
    They are connected in series 3 x 4,2V , 2 in parallel.
    I observed 2 modules have ~4,1 V whereas the 3rd one has 3,8V.
    So I disconnected them from the battery circuit and charged them from dedicated 18650 chargers (I have flashlights running on 18650 hence the chargers for them).
    Once they were fully charged reconnected them to the circuit and gave a try: 2 hours running with power plan set to entertainment, music on + external monitor connected.
    When the battery went flat tried recharging it and surprisingly managed to reach 100% charging level.
    Then again ~ 2 hours runtime with all apps opened, music switched on etc etc.
    Conclusion: root cause seems to be in the battery charging algorithm.
    I'm using mine till it really wears completely then will buy only 18650 elements and replace them.

    Cheers.
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

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    That is quite odd, maybe your unit was slightly off and not quite calibrated properly?
     
  27. Mishu Daniel

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    Calibrated or not, has anyone else tried measuring the elements and do a manual charging?
    Of course that is what I observed in my case, doesn't have to apply to others, true, but I won't buy any new battery unless the one I have really dies. And then will just replace the elements only.
    I'm happy with the laptop performance, no other issue encountered so far and have been with my old Asus as well, for that one the battery is still running fine and it's 5,5 years old.
    But seeing so many issues with the batteries of recent Asus laptops reported, buying a new one will not be my 1st option.
     
  28. Meaker@Sager

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    I've not seen many people on the forum with that level of expertise when it comes to opening battery packs and working on them.