Asus G75 680M upgrade

Would this upgrade be possible, as the 660M model has a removable GPU, so would a) the 680M be an option and b) would someone be able to make a BIOS update for it?

 

Unlikely. iirc the last gen ASUS g53/g73/g74 had graphics modules with connectors that physically looked like MXM, but were electronically different.

I suspect ASUS did the same thing for the G75. So unless ASUS releases a model with a 680m (note that they never released a 580m version last gen), an upgrade would probably be impossible.

 

Its not even that good with the G75. They soldered the chip into the mainboard itself so you're SOL

 

Is the CPU on the G75 User upgradable or soldered onto the mobo.

 

Its not soldered.

No they didn't.



The problem is that the 680m and 7970m will probably be too tall and of course the heatsink will have to be rebuilt. But the 7970m at least will probably work electrically, and you can always shave off a bunch of plastic in the chassis to get it to lay flat.

 

what about CPU??

 

Well wasnt the G73 upgradable from a 5850 to a 6970? Never give up hope!

 

Helps if there is enough physical room lol.

Also the mounting holes for the heatsink are totally different.

This has moved from a hobby to a serious technical undertaking.

 

apparently only the jh had that capability and only with the amd cards due to the wiring in the mxm

 

wow yeah thats unexpected. But still how are we supposed to cramp a hign end card in there? MXM 3.0A???

 

there is no space for that apparently

 

its like ASUS teasing its user: "derp you like upgrading huh? derp, how about this for upgrading!"

 

Thats right. Oh yeah, and asus will say to you when you have G Series is that. you want to upgrade your GPU? Buy a new laptop.

 

I would definitely try to upgrade it if I had this laptop, though with a 7970m not a 680m.

You don't need to manufacture a new heatsink and cut off a piece of the chassis to check if it boots and functions with the card.

 

niffcreature, where did you find that image ?

And, do you really think it will be upgradable ? I have the 660m version and would like to upgrade at least to a 675m or a 7970m. 680m is just too expensive.

Also, why are you so sure that 7970m would work ?

 

its highly unlikely that you could upgrade to any card besides a 670m from asus.

enduro might give you some issues, the card size is longer than what asus uses

 

I would buy this if it has a 680M, too bad.

Let us know if you can fit a standard MXM 3.0B card inside it

 

If anyone manage to get a 680M inside a G75, please let us know. There are maaaaany people wanting Asus to include it, but they will never ever do it anyways.

So big kudos if someone is able to install it themselves

Im drooling of the thought if 680M is able to be properly cooled by the silent cooling system G75 have

 

That looks way too short to fit a MXM 3.0B 7970M or 680M.

 

Leaving aside the physical constrains, do any of you think this would be software problem free ?

The physical restrains can be managed, you can saw some plastic and I'm sure it will fit. I have the G75 and I think that if you do some manual work in the chassis, the GPU will fit, will get close to one of the HDD bays but I think it fits.

 

you have enduro as I mentioned. that failed for the g73 owners, we dont know how the layout of the mxm should fare on this as well.

 

What is Enduro ?

 

You probably have to have a custom BIOS with HD7970 or NV680M whitelist

AMD's version of Optimus

 

We don't know that, do we? It could just work fine.

 

Did the old G73 require a new BIOS?

Since the ASUS G5/75 only uses 670M/660M, maybe it only supports those two cards.

CMIIW

 

I've been doing some measurements a high GPU like the 7970m or any other MxM 3.0 B Type card will be squeezing into the notebook, leaving less than a millimeter between the HDD bay and the actual card, nevertheless I think it would fit. You will have to reshape some of the plastics that are part of the chassis that are located near the HDD bays. I only noticed one little problem that would be to consider, I noticed that a screw of the notebook chassis is obstructing almost very little into the additional height the card would have. It gets in the way very little into one of the borders.

Once again, hope someone tries.

 

Now this would be a costly upgrade should it fail

 

Wait a minute, I just noticed this notebook has a f104ing THUNDERBOLT PORT

Why not just buy a TB<->PCI-e adapter and fit a DESKTOP GTX 680M?

cmiiw

 

First of all, this port has been confirmed not to be thunderbolt by Asus in their ROG forum by official Asus people. Second of all, if I would be installing a desktop GPU in a notebook via external connections.... better buy a desktop in first place. An external GPU requires its own desktop PSU also, so this would be by no means the definition of an easy portable computer which is the main feature that notebooks must have.

 

Aww man

I guess you can do light gaming while on the road, then at home. You fire up your GTX 680 along with your G75

 

I love my G73 and I would love to upgrade gpu but it's not possible

 

I did some research about if the G73 needed a bios tweak while updating to the 6970 but it appears it did not.

Mobius, I did not say your idea was useless, I myself thought of that in the first place but then realized that doing so was so far from the idea of the main objective of a notebook which is put in a backpack and have performance on the go.

 

The 7970 of the G73JH test was bad. Not the Enduro option.
So there is still the possibility for it.

 

What do you mean that it was bad ? And why do you think there is a chance for the G75 ?

 

The card didn't work in a m18x too.
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It's a chance for the G73JH.
With the G75 you would need a selfmade heatsink and there is still the question of enough space for stock MXM3.0b cards.

 

ASUS will releasing G series SKUs with thunderbolt ports in July.

You'd still need the external PSU and all but at the very least this would give users more at home power.

 

Guys, I've been making some more close look measurements and I was wrong, actually there are not 2mm of spare between what would be a 680m or 7970m or any MxM 3.0 Type B card but instead there would be 2mm more needed for it to fit. If I am not wrong, the card would physically crash one of the HDD bays (which eventually could be emptied). Also, making some comparisons, NONE of the holes and supports in chassis for the graphics card seem to match with the ones seen in a standard MxM. Not to mention that the heat sink would need a rebuild since the Asus GPU cores are no in the center of the MxM connection as standard but way to moved to one of the sides. I'm not giving up but just telling you guys what problems seem to exist.

Any other G75 owner that can take a look, I would really appreciate if you could give your opinion. As for now, max performance seems to be the 670m.

 

hi,
GTX680 or HD7970 important one is detected by motherboard, the rest as heat sink and conversion 2.5 "HDD to 1.8" would go, as soon as someone has the information and the GTX675/680 HD7970m works for G75, G75, I'll buy one and start Upgreade ,
await with interest information,
The G75 design is unique because of the wait stretched on info.
gogle translate

 

The GTX 680M seems a bit too tall physically speaking.

G75's BIOS contains both GTX 660M and GTX 670M's vbios. Adding extra vbios is possible.

 

I've measured it several times in my G75 and the only way to make the card fit is if you cop a column that holds a screw from the chassis and disable completely one of the HDD bays, removing the tray. In spite of that, it seems that only one screw may coincide to one of those in the standard MxM cards that holds the GPU flat. The heat sinks screws do not coincide either since the standard ones are in a square disposition whilst the Asus ones are in a more rectangular kind of figure. Supposing that the heat sink could be managed by buying an Alienware or Eurocom one and using its contact surface to mount it to the GPU and then use the Asus heat pipes and rest of the cooling system, there are still two problems to solve:
- How to keep the GPU flat (can eventually be worked out).
- Weather the BIOS and all that software side of the task is compatible.

Since I do not have a clue of those BIOS things and how to modify one, I would have to ask you how would we have to eventually proceed in such case.

I will be uploading some images of these physical problems that I describe so you can directly see what I mean. G75 owners it would really help if you also take a look into you notebook and comment on this. Once again, if an upgrade can be done say to a 675m, this notebook will be a bomb. Not to mention a 680m...

 

The Clevo gtx 680M has the same PCB as the GTX 675M not to mention with a different die chip and memory chips. I'll post a screen shot of a GTX 680M vs GTX 675M in dimension comparisom once I receive it next week.

 

Card can stay flat with one screw, msi has that normally.

 

hi , need part number of the VGA Heatsink,
I have two part number:
TH-1 13GN2V1AM050 G75VW VGA ASSY2
TH-1 13GN2V1AM040 G75VW VGA ASSY1
what a GTX670 Heatsink?
part number for this baseplate?
13GN2V1AP041-1-1A BOTTOM CASE G75VW SUB ASSY
or these
13GN2V1AP031 G75VW-1-1A TOP CASE ASSY SUB
I will share this with the same order to perform upgrade
I use VGA back cover of M18's all technically feasible only important to the GPU is detected


edit ,
upgreade parts:

G75VW VGA TH MOD-2
€ 29.87 Excl. VAT

G75VW-1A BOTTOM CASE ASSY SUB
€ 43.39 Excl. VAT

G75VW-1A TOP CASE ASSY SUB
€ 47.51 Excl. VAT
Sub-Total: € 150.97

VGA 7970m ~ 500 €
heatsinks M18 ~ 70 €
upgreade total of ~ 720 €
Asus G75VW with 670mGTX ~ 1600 €
Final price ~ 2300 €
for this man gets award Alienware M17 with GTX680 +120 Hz 3D
but if it works umpgeade GPU is a power in the G75 design with excelente!

 

Someone should really try to install the 680M in the G75. It is already proved that the GTX 680M runs atleast 10 degree celsius lower than 580M/675M and draws 20W less. It should be around as hot as GTX 670M which the G75 feature, but the performance of 680M is so much better than 670M.

 

Gtx 680M really got a lot of oc headroom, Furmark temp max out at 73C. Go ahead and check this post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/673141-p170hm-has-been-successfully-installed-clevo-gtx680m-4gb.html

 

Heckness, are you saying you are going to try the upgrade ? If so keep us updated please. Also I wanted to say that both 7970m, 675m, 680m all are MxM Type B so all of them have the same dimensions.

VSSS, are you going to try the upgrade too ? Please keep us updated. I did not understand what you are saying you will do, can you explain it a bit more in detail ?

 

Not for the Asus laptop so no, I'm upgrading my P150EM, but from what I'm seeing here, the card is too tall even for the old G73JW I have, maybe one day I'll try putting a GTX 680M in the G73JW but for now I'm just gonna put it in the P150EM. Anyway the card dimension is the same as the GTX 675M, so if GTX 675M is too tall for the G75VW or any G series, GTX 680M won't fit. Being said it won't fit, the next step I'll probably do is try putting the GTX 675M inside the G73JW without the case.

 

I think that too, but VSSS is talking about some part numbers that he will buy or something of that sort to try the update (it seems to be what he said). I will be posting some images on the physical problems that the G75 would be facing in the scenario of an upgrade.

 

Here are the images I promised.

Here I show how the 105mm of height of the 680m or other cad would probably not fit.

From June 30, 2012

From June 30, 2012

The bracket of the heat sink is also rectangular and not square but that can be solved by using the heat sink of an Alienware or any other manufacturer and mixing it with the heat pipes of th G75.

From June 30, 2012

A pillar of the chassis that would have to be most likely cut.

From June 30, 2012

The screw that apparently coincides with a standard MxM 3 B.

From June 30, 2012

CLICK ON THE IMAGES IF YOU CAN NOT SEE THEM.

 

Try installing build main board from outside the tower GTX680 and if it works,
If this works then I'll buy the whole kit including Asus parts and lead to the conversion I live,
GTX680m or 7970m will work? ,only if no match is made ​​fit
I'll wait here for info if works, I have thought of the conversion plan,
with my Alien ware M18 binn very dissatisfied, I need new laptop with power,
@GuidoScoco
The MMX slot is also 0.3-0.4mm deep and up to HDD is approx 110mm
Thank you for pictures, detailed measured fend advantage of this
posted by google translator

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1.8" ssd


or SATA to mSATA connector