Asus Launches GX700 Gaming Notebook with Watercooling Dock

Remember all tose jokes we would make about water-cooled notebooks?

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Yeah.

 

Me on a date after I buy this

Spoiler: $$$

 

It would make a lot more sense to include a TB3 port to use an external graphics dock.

 

Wait a cotton picking minute!

What are you doing wasting your time on a date, you need to be home showing love for that new 990m Monster Laptop

 

Samot, both implementations are a design choice.

The external cooling / power assist is cheaper than a full blown external GPU.

You could purchase another external cooling / power assist dock to put where you go, like work.

Much more cost efficient

 

Yes, indeed. But the gpu on that laptop will most certainly put a hefty price tag on it, and by what i have read you will only be able to take full advantage of it using that cooling dock. I would much prefer to save some bucks on a regular gpu that doesn´t require a cooling dock to run at 100% and put in a little more money and get an external graphics dock with a desktop gpu of my choice that can be upgraded down the road and that can be used with future new laptops. On the long run that would be more cost effective.

 

The interface is going to be the part that's the biggest headache, ensuring perfect airtight contact every time.

 

I'm going to need to see much more on this becuase its a bit confusing and not much info has been given yet but Asus has succeeded in cathing our attention. Can't wait to see more on this and thier other Skylake books.

 

And getting water in and out, fighting bubbles (how do you even do that here), etc.

Normal cooling (or internal water cooling) + delidded CPU would be so much easier.

 

...what you would do with your basic modular water-cooling design, is that you have ..not sure about the english word.. compression fittings? ..between the tank and the water circuit. So the tubes are fitted to the nipples on the cooling elements, and so on, with some care, warmed up plastic tube, silicon and clamps, etc. So you have the intake and the outtake outside the actual computer (or at the bottom of the cabinet, for example, in a space where the pump, tank and radiator can cool and condense and bubble without threatening to short out the motherboard). And then these two tubes with compression fittings that make sure the system is completely closed once the pressure builds up. Works perfectly fine. Made one that had compression fittings on the cooling elements themselves, when experimenting with a dual circuit system, to get the mean temperature more stable - basically, keeping the plugs tight isn't a problem.

But I'm imagining the solution they've chosen here is to just have a water-cooled external box with a graphics card in it. To avoid the entire "I wish I could hear anything in my headset, but the fan noise is too high" problem. Which sounds like a good idea, imo.

 

I'm still curious to see how the cooling is on it when it is not on the dock. I'd agree, I'd like to see some added functionality to the cooling dock as well. But it is a first generation product, so I'm hopeful that there might be some future tweaks.

 

..water cooling wasn't invented yesterday, you know.. Probably are very few different ways to do this.

Either there's a normal heat-sink solution with heat-pipes leading to a bit larger block of copper than normal. That then can be cooled relatively well with the fans past the radiators inside the laptop. But then you could connect that block of copper to the water-cooling unit, and have a much easier time cooling the heatsink loop.

Or you would have a dual loop system of some sort with air-cooling as a backup, and there's no room to do that in a laptop. Besides, you would need to design some way to completely empty the system of fluid once you disconnect the dock (which you won't really need to do if you're just cooling a secondary heatsink element). And you'd get into all kinds of trouble without basically connecting the loop so the fluid would flow through the radiator and the elements by temperature difference, so you wouldn't get pressure buildups in one area, and very likely leaks, etc. Which would be pretty futuristic if you pulled it off , but likely isn't the solution they're going for.

So basically - a big heatsink and an optional radiator. Fluid flows only through the heatsink visible on the back side, etc.

 

Someone did something similar on their machine, I would suspect a traditional loop where instead of having the heatpipes exposed on the top of the contact plate you have the water block on top of them. That way air operation is not impacted but the water cooling can supliment the cooling nicely:



(Credit for the above mod goes to @Chrack )

 

Dang. So simple, but why not. Did that work...?

 

Yes that work
Look my Signature and you can see it.

I reach with the 4790K @ 4,7Ghz 82c degree in a 1,5h Prime95 run


I think thats very nice with this small watercooling mod.
In my Signature you can see the watercooling. It´s only a 120mm Radiator

 

Well done. Wouldn't have occurred to me to sand down the pipes and attach the heatsink there. Or, I'd be too scared to do it, in case they'd lose heat transfer past the link. But I.. suppose it would basically not be significant enough on temps up towards 80 degrees anyway..?

And did you solder the elements to the array, or did you just use a clamp, or something like that?

 

most of these ROG gaming notebooks weight like 8lbs+.
what is the point of buying a notebook weighting this much if it's not even that portable?

i mean.......why not just make a desktop for far less?

i currently own a q55lf which i use for gaming on the go or to run Diablo 3 bots while i game on my main desktop at home. it's about 5.9lbs and i think it's too heavy to be of any portable use. i can only imagine what these ROGs must feel like when you lift it.

 

Is this really still a thing? And on this forum no less? A heavy laptop:

• has fewer parts to manage than a desktop
• is still smaller and lighter than a desktop
• can be pulled out and set-up much faster than a desktop
• can fit in a (large) bag
• has a battery and can be used away from a power outlet (even if it's only for a couple hours)

 

Basically notebooks are the very definition of a PC (Personal Computer). Everyone has different needs with power and performance. Just because it makes no sense for you does not mean that's true for every one.

 

Amen, that's what made the enthusiasts.

 

A nicely glocked GPU in that thing will pair REALLY nicely with a fast refresh rate 1080p display.

 

Some may prefer 3K/4K options if available.

 

time to save money....

 

i didn't mean to crap on anyone, i just thought it was kind of ironic to want a laptop that weighs as much as some desktops.
even at 6lbs, my laptop is not very portable. as a matter of fact i stopped carrying around even on extended trips. way too heavy and bulky.

 

Many people use back packs to carry laptops. Some don't feel 6lbs is heavy in their hands.

6lbs desktops tend to have much weaker performance compared to 6lbs laptops. And they are not truly 6lbs, neither are they portable. You still need to carry peripherals and a screen. There's often a external PSU on smaller desktops as well.

 

Single card you may still run into issues with frame rate still at those resolutions.

 

gee, this thing keeps on popping up everywhere now... meh

too expensive (4-5k)
not upgradeable
coolant aint exchangeable
throttling when away from the dock
not really a notebook, but rather a desktop in disguise
crappy bga cpu

...meh

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....wow.

And over here, Asus sells special enthusiast sheep - that can only be sheared once. Super-exclusive.
And here's Asus' designer coffee-table, slanted at an angle sufficient enough to slide the coffee-cups right off. Avant!
And this here is Asus' vacuum cleaner - filter free, it just clogs up and then you throw it away. Brilliant.
And here's the special purpose Asus ballpen - where you manually coat the ball on the pen with ink for each letter stroke.

 

LOL *trying to restrain himself from falling off office chair at work*

 

You expect it to maintain the same performance away from the dock?

 

of course not point being, that the dock makes the whole point of a mobile laptop kinda moot on one hand and im betting on high perf clevo models to be able to reach comparable numbers without that dock restriction on the other hand

 

Do you know that for sure? The Asus models have on par cooling typically so any improvements would give it more headroom for higher TDPs and more consistent boosting/clocking.

 

not yet, but premas hinting thus far leads me to believe that well find out soon enough i guess

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Reaching and sustaining are two different things, doing it comfortably and with a tornado in the room are also different too

 

that made me lol hoping for the best, prepared for the worst

 

That does not deter one from using it, besides you can run 3K on desktop but 1080P in game so it's fine if the system can provide such capability.

 

Maybe but as a gamer you benefit much more from the higher refresh rate and it is aimed at gamers after all.

 

Gamers will benefit from high refresh rate only if the product comes with G-Sync, otherwise it's going to be the same result.

 

BS. Even the difference between 60Hz and 75Hz on a non G-Sync screen is very noticeable.

 

I have to (more politely) agree. I have always used beyond 60hz where possible even before g-sync to great gains.

 

Yes, you both are right.
There aren't many models that provide 75Hz so it's not widely available on notebooks unlike desktops.

 

Looks delicious, this is why I liked and LOVED Asus because of their very slick designs, it gives this feeling like you owned a Lamborghini. But the price however is one thing that gives me hiccup, oh well I guess not for rich people and obviously I'm not rich so I guess its jut going to be a dream unless the price is reasonable enough to convince me.

 

The G752 is still giving a nice balance of design/performance/price, there will always be halo products of course.

 

review https://translate.google.com/transl...ck.com/Test-Asus-GX700-Notebook.156423.0.html

 

The only possible improvement that a water cooling solution can provide is to reduce temperatures and increase headroom for performance, which the GX700 does nicely:

(german to english translation courtesy of Google Chrome translate)

"The advantages of Hydra overclocking system can be established only when the temperature development. While the CPU of Schenker notebooks XMG U716 and XMG U726 in the stress test with the tools Furmark and Prime95 to 95 ° C was hot, we were the Asus GX700 measure just under 85 ° C,...

...More meaningful is the temperature of the GPU. Instead of a maximum of 88 ° C, the GTX 980 reached the GX700 more than 68 ° C, which is an excellent value for notebook conditions. Also because of the graphics chip never throttles and always attaches the full Turbo."

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Asus-GX700-Notebook.156423.0.html

The measured noise levels are the same for the GX700 as the Clevo's, and all much less than the MSI GT72S 980.

The hum might be due to conduction through the surface the laptop / cooler / dock is resting on, given a more solid cavity under the assemblage it might be tuned to be less offensive.

It's nice to see the GX700 hanging in there, we need new cooling solutions, and for many of us mobile use isn't a requirement. So a slower speed on mobile is ok.

BTW, not sure if the translation was correct, but I think it said they weren't given the mobile power adapter so didn't run any tests on AC off dock, so we still don't know what the performance off the dock on AC will be.

Maybe they should have run the 330w power supply on the GX700 without the dock? I would hope they have the same connectors...

 

I guess I just got lucky, I have been running 100hz on the last 4 laptops, over the last 2+ years.

I only had one that I could only get to run @75hz from 60hz.

All the others, including my current GT80 SLI-263 run fine on an Nvidia Custom Resolution @ 100hz.

Chi Mei (Innolux) and Samsung OC'd to 100hz, my AUO would only do 75hz.

 

Couldn't have said it better. This seems to have been a huge waste of resources on Asus side. They could have done so much better/more improving the 'normal' ROG line or something else, anything else other than building thi$ abomination they call a 'laptop'.

 

Nice thick gauge of cable from the plug to the motherboard there Having the port mounted separately like that helps reduce stress and they are using nice sized posts on the motherboard side. All good solid electrical/mechanical design there, love it

 

They updated their review and have included now some tests with the mobile power adapter.