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    Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Riddhy916, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. Riddhy916

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    Asus: ?Ivy Bridge?-Notebooks mit Nvidias ?Kepler? ab April - 12.01.2012 - ComputerBase

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  2. perfectblue

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    Exciting news!!! Atlast ASUS are improving 1 grade ahead of G74 GPU.

    I wonder what the MSI will come up with! Maybe G680M 4GB GDDR5?? :D
     
  3. stege

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    Wow. This is good news. Although I was expecting a competition for that 580GTX equipped MSI. Guess 670M will have to do.
     
  4. Yiddo

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    That is top news if that turns out to be the case I will believe it when I see it mind.

    If it does happen then I could be coming home in time for the 770M ;)
     
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    I love the design of the G75. It looks good :)
     
  6. JehutyZeroshift

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    Pretty much looks the same with the G74, though the specs are really exciting!
     
  7. stege

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    Guys, if we were to give credit to this than GTX 670M is the actualized GTX 560M :( (192bit) The "true" upgraded part would have been the GTX 675M (256bit).

    I love ROG notebooks, mine has been nothing but a delight to use. But I need something with more oomph as replacement. Perhaps MSI or Alienware? .....

    ASUS, please offer G75/G55 with GTX 670/675/680M !!!!!!!!
     
  8. Tyo

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  9. octiceps

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    Well, at this point, these are all rumors, but I really hope ASUS steps it up with the GPUs in their ROG notebooks. They haven't made a significant GPU upgrade since the Mobility 5870 in the G73JH released 2 years ago. As far as I know, the subsequent GTX 460M and 560M have only offered similar performance.

    Unless the new Kepler architecture turns out to be a significant improvement over Fermi, it's looking to me like the GTX 670m that's coming out in the G55/G75 is going to occupy the same spot in the nVidia hierarchy as the current GTX 560M, which is two steps down from the top-of-the-line.
     
  10. sarge_

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    Great, another 192-bit GPU.
     
  11. Kevin

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    Yeah that won't be very impressive, unless it has an even higher shader count than the GTX 580M.
     
  12. sarge_

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    Haha no, it will most likely be a re-badged and possibly die-shrunk 570m.
     
  13. Kevin

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    There are no rebadged or reused GPUs n the GTX 600M range. They are all 28nm Kepler parts.

    It says that right in the article.
     
  14. perfectblue

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    Not True. The 610M,630M(some),635M are all rebadged GPUs. The higher end ones are keplers. The same is true for AMD, only above 7700M series are new models.
     
  15. octiceps

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    Regardless, in the end the performance is going to be limited by the 192-bit memory bus. I don't see it being much more powerful than the current GTX 570M at most.
     
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    there are no kepler parts in the 600 series.
     
  17. Kevin

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    Why would you say such a thing? Nvidia itself has already said mobile Kepler is coming in April.
     
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    Hello notebookreview member i'm new here :)
    First of all i want to thank to this forum who have provided excellent information about notebook.

    I would like to know what do you think about this G74 successor (chassis and specification)?

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    Compare with G74sx chassis
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    The new 3D screen is glossy? Eww.
    Hopefully matte will be available.
     
  21. octiceps

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    I agree, the option for a matte screen would be nice.

    Besides the reinforced keyboard, the chassis doesn't look too different from the G73/G74 to me. It's still a very functional and attraction design so why change it?
     
  22. hellz1988

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    Yeah they should add an option for matte display.

    The rear part and exhaust fan covered with stainless steel makes this laptop looks better than G74. I hope it does not increase the weight of this laptop XD
     
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    Looks like they decided to go back to old fan design.

    The screen on the picture seems to be matte.
     

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    is that asus g55?
    i see different fan design on this video, the exhaust design pretty much like g74...

    ASUS G55 laptop hands on preview from CES 2012 - YouTube
     
  25. @tilla

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    The picture is just extracted from the vid sl0519 posted.
     
  26. sl0519

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    Yeah you are right I just noticed the fan design of two videos are different. The one that someone posted before has got a matte screen and the fans come much closer to each other, while the other might be G75 because the fans are distant and it's got a glossy screen.
     
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    it will come as 670 GTX only a bit better than 570

    But still loses in performance than GTX 580
     
  28. He1p

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    In the video ... thats G55 not G75 that was overviewed by ROG asus
     
  29. Kevin

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    The 670M will be faster than the GTX 580M.
     
  30. sl0519

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    If it's a G55 then why the fan design in those two videos are different?
     
  31. @tilla

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    Do you really belief in a Asus notebook with such power?^^

    IMHO the G55 will have the "old" fan design of G74/G53SX(?)
    The 17 inch model will always be the top model.
     
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    Did anyone notice a strange port nearby the hdmi port in that video at 1:35? Is it a display port? Or a thunderbolt port perhaps :rolleyes:
     
  33. Kevin

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    Well the 580m is 30% faster than the 570M.

    You should expect each 600M card to be 30% faster than the one it replaces.

    The 670M being 30% faster than the 570M would mean it at least equals the 580M.
     
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    hi guys... so 580m is 45% faster than 560m?
     
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    I researched and researched if there was a G75 coming...... I buy my G74 and the news comes out. G75 coming... well i'll stick to my g74, it's an amazing machine anyways
     
  36. Kevin

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    No. More like 60 to 70 percent.
     
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  38. sl0519

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    Nice find!! Finally they have done something to those who'd like to DIY
     
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    That's a new keyboard on the G55, isn't it? If Asus could give it a crisper keyboard and fix the infamous power pin problem, the G55 would probably be my favorite midsize gaming rig.
     
  41. octiceps

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    LOL did you make this up? Or do you somehow have inside information on stuff that doesn't exist yet? Or are you just trolling? :rolleyes:

    The last time ASUS updated their ROG notebook line, they came out with a GTX 560M that was 10% to -30% faster than the GTX 460M. :D
     
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    -30%? :)
     
  43. octiceps

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    Yeah. Negative thirty percent. That's speaking of the nerfed 128-bit GTX 560M of course.
     
  44. Kevin

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    You're actually helping to prove my point.

    460M -> 560M was merely a transition to a slightly more efficient core, with higher clocks, and even that provided between a 10 and 15 percent increase in stock performance.

    The move to 600M, is a die shrink and architectural improvement. The cards will have more cores and higher clocks to go with them.

    The 570M has 336 cores. Don't be shocked if the 670M has over 400, with higher base clocks included. It will be 30% faster than the 570M, EASILY. I'm actually being conservative.
     
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    I`m with Kevin on this one. You can`t compare going from Fermi to Kepler with 460M to 560M. Not even close

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    But what about the memory bus? Everything I've seen points to the GTX 670M as still being a 192-bit GPU. I don't see how it can ever be much faster if the memory bus is holding it back.

    But if ASUS breaks the mold and starts going back to putting top-of-the-line mobile GPUs in their ROG laptops and keeping the price competitive, good for them; they'll have a winner on their hands.
     
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    This image could mean a bunch of different things. Kepler could be considerably faster than Fermi, OR it can be more efficient, OR it can be both, at least according to this chart. You could definitely make the argument, just based on this picture, that Kepler, being a die shrink, is only more efficient by being more powerful per watt and not necessarily more powerful overall. That's basically what Intel is doing in their CPUs with Ivy Bridge -- a die shrink that is provides roughly the same performance as Sandy Bridge while using less power.
     
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    Does it really matters how they achieve the increased performance? :)

    Faster clock for clock (like Sandy Bridge was to Nehalem). Im OK with that.
    Not much faster clock for clock but due to the die shrink they have much bigger thermal envelope to push the performance forward? Im OK with that too.

    But like mentioned, it is a new architecture, not just a die shrink, or small increase in core efficiency like 560M was to 460M. That is the whole point here. To further compare this with CPUs and Intel, it is kinda like Quick sync was to Nehalem architecture. So yeah, I think we are talking big increase in performance with Kepler. We will see anyways "soon" :)
     
  49. Kevin

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    In what situation is the memory bus holding the 570M back? It never hits a point where increasing clocks doesn't increase performance.


    More powerful per watt is the absolute best kind of more powerful.

    It means, for instance, you can now deliver the power of a 100W GPU in a 75W GPU. Or imagine that the GTX 680M is a 100W GPU, which packs the power of what in 40nm was only possible with a 130W card.

    It raises the ceiling on potential horsepower, without also raising the power consumption.
     
  50. octiceps

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    Uhhh...in pretty much every modern game when you crank up the resolution, AA, and AF. That's part of the reason why the performance of the GTX 570M is closer to that of the 560M than the 580M.

    Actually, there is a point. At the point when you can no longer hold a stable overclock and your card starts overheating, throttling, and crashing, your performance is no longer increasing. ;) But that goes for every graphics card.
     
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