Asus ROG Strix GL502VT

You may need to reboot after uninstalling TrueColor to see the difference.

If there is little difference to your eye's, then it wasn't set to one of their egregious filters that do muck with the colors.

If it doesn't do anything positive, and you can't tell the difference between it being installed or not, then there is no reason to keep it installed.

 

Yes it's a TN panel. Anyone who wants to check it out and has a best buy local that has a display model please check it out first before making purchase. The LCD panel hinge on this laptop seems sturdy but it wobbles like crazy.

Pretty sure the TN is the 72% NTSC. Percentage is color gamut coverage, (i think) the higher is usually better for nice and vibrant colors where as the lower means colors aren't true and look washed out and appear a different shade on the screen.

Where did you get confirmation that amazon and excaliberpc both sell ones with the TN screen?

 

Eh well it still doesn't fix the problem that it's still a TN panel. I personally don't see why manufacturers still use poor LCD panels on $1000+ laptops. I mean the Samsung screen that they use on the higher priced models are $60-70 off eBay, cmon now asus...

 

I agree. Let's hope the 980m version with G-sync has a nice IPS screen

 

oh thats bad to hear, so the screen on GTX970m version was not IPS panel ?

 

I have a best buy version in front of me, it has a TN panel.

I think it's safe to say the best buy versions come with TN panels, it is $200 cheaper vs the other ones i've seen listed on the web so they had to cut costs somewhere.

 

I dont think 980m version have G-Sync. I just ordered one and i was looking for Gsync and cant find any.

 

Who did you order from, and what link did you order from?

Usually Asus has many different models, some specific to regions. You have to be very careful to find the right model number with the right options.

The GL502VY is the 980m model, and that product page clearly says it has an IPS G-sync screen:
https://www.asus.com/gr/Notebooks/ROG-GL502VY/overview/

Spoiler: 980m G-Sync

I always ask the vendor to actually pull the box, and read the side label that lists the inventory of components. It's not unreasonable to ask them to send you a photo to make sure you are getting what you expect.

I also ask them to pull the one they are going to ship to make sure it's what they read to me

The Strix announcement blurb does say IPS, 4k, and G-sync are options:

" ROG Strix GL502
Many consider a 15-inch laptop as the sweet spot for portable gaming, since it has the biggest display possible while stilll being able to fit in virtually any backpack, most importantly - to carry around with ease. ROG Strix GL502 features such a size with a 15.6-inch, and utilizes an awesome non-glare IPS (in-plane switching) display for true, accurate colors and wide 178-degree viewing angle. You can also opt for Full HD (1080p) or glorious 4K Ultra-HD. To power a 4K display (as you probably already know) requires hardware with a hefty punch, up to NVIDIA GeForce GTX980M graphics with 8GB of GDDR5 video memory delivers exactly that. You'll be ready for the latest DirectX 12 games, while G-SYNC synchronizes the display’s refresh rate with the GPU to reducing lag, minimizing frame-rate stutter, and eliminating visual tearing.

GL502 is just 23.5mm thick and weighs only 2.2kg! Even so, it is powered by the latest-generation quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, up to 32GB of high-performance 2,133MHz DDR4 RAM, and up to 512GB M.2 NVM Express (NVMe) PCIe x4 SSD in tantem with an up to 2TB HDD so you have both blazingly fast performance and large storage capacity. An exclusive cooling system makes all this possible, incorporating copper heat-pipes and dual fans that cool the CPU and GPU independently to maximize cooling efficiency for system stability - even when running the most hardware-intensive games."
http://rog.asus.com/23232016/g-seri...rs-announces-new-strix-series-gaming-line-up/

OFFICIAL FEATURE VIDEO: ROG STRIX GL502 - Time 00:54
http://rog.asus.com/23252016/g-series-gaming-laptops/official-feature-video-rog-strix-gl502/

Spoiler: 980m G-sync

 

I ordered it here: https://benstore.com.ph/. Im from Philippines. so the site is on upgrade. Ill try to ask them about the Gsync. my order will probably be here next week.

 

Seems like there are multiple versions out there. Mine (from Czech rep.) came with the Samsung screen, which is an IPS panel, good colors imo (not sure whether it's the 94% NTSC or not). To be on the safe side, everyone should just specifically ask their retailer about the screen before purchasing.

 

How to know which screen do I have on my model ?
Mine doesn't have G-sync, (I think) but the screen looks good, I would like to know which particular model do I have because I don't really know what is a "good screen".
I have a really little backlight bleeding on the lower left corner ... Which I can see only with a black screen in the dark, I don't know if it's worth returning it because the new model could have worse problem than that.

Other than that, I'm really happy with this laptop, runs really fast. The maximum temperature I have got is in Rust on medium/high settings, and it was around 86-90 celcius degrees.
The battery life is good, if you lowered the screen brightness and don't play games you should be able to get a few hours of battery life.
Booting it up is faster than a macbook pro. I tested it.

 

Check your screen model in HWiNFO for example.

 

We can't really say its TN panel because hidevolotuion and Excaliberpc websites, specifically states:
(excaliberpc which is also selling same laptop on Amazon)

15.6" IPS Full HD (1920 x 1080) Ultra Slim 300nits, NTSC:72%
Support ASUS Splendid Technology
With IPS Technology

It does says IPS and also says 72% NTSC, So what to make out of it ?

Check it out yourself in specifications on hidevolution and excaliberpc websites

As I have read through websites 94% NTSC is better than 72% NTSC, but these are only color calibration values, which indicates color accuracy, it doesn't tells about quality of LCD panel being used in a laptop, so a good LCD with 72% NTSC will be better than bad panel with same 72% NTSC value,

Manufactures use many qualities of LCD panels in same product, to be shipped in different parts of the world for one reason or the other. And customers have no control over choosing which quality they will get. For example Same laptop GL502VT might have different quality of LCD panels for European market different for Asian and different for USA but all are 72% NTSC, It might also vary with retailers and price too. That is why person who have bought from hidevolution has different model panel than ones who bought from bestbuy, both American retailers but prices are different. I have figured this out by reading all the previous posts here.

Person who have bought his laptops from hidevolution sounds very content with screen quality and people who have bought from bestbuy are Complaining about screen. As there is no price difference between prices of excaliberpc, hidevoluation and Amazon for Asus Rog GL502VT, so safe guess is they have no difference in screen quality also, because prices are same, specs are same and they all state model as ASUS ROG GL502VT - DS71.

 

SAMSUNG SDC324C
SAMSUNG 156HL01-104
Well everything seems to be in order !

 

In ebay this is the 980m configuration

 

GL502VY-DS1

Waaaay too expensive @ $2318 !!

I reduced the config to the minimum, and got a nice low price of $1699

==> 980m 4GB, 16GB SODIMM, 128GB SSD + 1TB Disk

ASUS ROG STRIX GL502VT GL502VY 15.6" Core i7-6700HQ GTX 970M 980M Gaming Laptop FREE PC GAME, GAMING HEADSET, MOUSE PAD ($160 VALUE)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-ROG-ST...hash=item25bc6c4c16:m:mjBe2vqPJVU2a6VneSc6dUg

 

Thats the same model as mine, I can confirm it is a good quality panel. Uploading review now, will be up in around an hour.

 

Review is uploaded, keep in mind this is not professional by any means

 

Right, the guy said both panels were TN so I I was just curious where he got the information from.

That's why I said most of the time higher % means a better quality screen, not all the time. I'm sure if you bought a GL502 off amazon, hidevolution or excaliberpc you MAY get a different panel but who knows. All I know is the best buy uses the Chi Mei TN panel and colors are poor along with poor viewing angles as to be expected with a TN panel. The price for the one at best buy clearly tells you why it uses a TN panel.

 

Can anyone confirm the panel used on bestbuy? I really want this laptop so bad but my budget is just $1200. Taxes are really high on California.

 

Chi Mei panel used there. 1200 USD is very cheap and they cut corners everywhere on that version. The hard drive is very slow at 5400 rpm, the panel is cheap with poor colors and viewing angles. Save up and get one from HID evolution for 1400. Its worth it.

 

I questioned Asus about the Chi Mei panel. This was their response.

"Thank you for taking time reaching out to ASUS - North America Escalations team. I reviewed your complaint and found nothing wrong with the product. IPS is a sub category of TN Panels. If you are not sure, here is the part number of the notebook LCD panel, 18010-15602800. It will show you that it is an FHD panel that uses IPS technology."

 

Reply to them and let them know they are wrong, incorrect, mistaken - TN and IPS are forms of LCD panels, but are very different.

IPS is not a subcategory of TN.

IPS => In Plane Switching LCD Panel

TN => TN Film (Twisted Nematic + Film)

There are many places on the internet comparing the various types of LCD panel's, here is one:

Panel Technologies
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies.htm

Ask them to look up the IPS G-sync panel for the GL502VY with the 980m. One of the options for that model is an IPS Panel with G-sync support.

 

Now that is just bull what that support person told you. IPS panels were designed to solve the main issues of the old TN panels, and only have very little in common, if anything at all, with TN panels.
Last time I contacted ASUS support, the person on the other end was trying to convince me that there was nothing wrong with the rubbish b/g/n Atheros WLAN adapter that my model originally came with.

 

Oh man! Ok I can understand someone working for the support team is not into technology etc but they should be aware of basics. Besides that they have unlimited resources and should check before they provide an answer they are unsure of. Damn!

 

So a basic question which are the differences between this model vs the g752?? Basically should I buy this model or the g752 in black friday?

 

G752 - bigger screen, better cooling and maybe better keyboard. It's also much thicker, heavier and the battery life won't be as good

 

The G752 is a tank with half the battery life and almost twice the weight.

 

That and their most certainly will be new models out by Black Friday

 

Hey guys,

I'm planning on getting this laptop from ExcaliberPC.

Is it a good site to buy from?. Has anyone here got their laptop from this particular site?. If so could you please reply .

 

The story gets better now. I contacted Asus parts in reference to the part number Asus support sent me in their reply. "If you are not sure, here is the part number of the notebook LCD panel, 18010-15602800."

Here is the product page for the panel Asus support said is in my laptop. http://www.asusparts.eu/Asus-18010-15602800

Here is the Asus parts response to my inquiry apout the panel.

Hello!


It’s a TN-panel


Best regards


Tomas Andersson
Support
Zand Parts
Teknikringen 6
583 30 Linköping, Sweden
Tel: +46(0)13 - 31 60 34
Fax: +46(0)13 - 31 01 56
E-mail: [email protected] www.asusparts.eu| www.zandparts.eu

 

Has anyone seen anything regarding the GL502VY coming out in the UK? This model ticks all the right boxes for me...

 

I've already confirmed this, it's a Chi Mei TN Panel.

 

If it's as good as the Chi Mei or AUO TN panels in my G750JW/JX/JH's, they are really good.

If you go in thinking the worst, you are going to be too critical. Live with it for a few days, and enjoy it, then decide.

If you look for the screen glow in IPS's, or the color shift in TN's, you will find both.

Watch some movies, video's, check out some photo's you are familiar with, and you should find the TN panel is good.

I move the laptop screen to face me when I move, I don't leave the laptop sit where it is and try to peer from the sides. Same for tilt. I adjust things to meet my needs, I don't expect them to follow my eyes around and have the screen track my eye's for me.

In all the time I had TN panels I never once regretted them for having color shift side to side or up/down. If I am showing someone else something on the screen, I adjust the view for their perspective, and I watch their reaction - I already know what's going on on the screen.

IPS or TN, I am happy with either one.

Gloss vs Matte too, but I am tilted away from Gloss these days - I have too many light sources

 

If you're referring to VY (GTX980M), it's not available anywhere yet iinm. It's available for preorder by some retailer but stocks will arrive next month. If you're interested in getting the VT model (GTX970M) Amazon UK is currently selling it, sold by HiDevolution. I'm pretty sure they will bring in the GTX980M as well when it's available.

 

Or just avoid bestbuy and order from other retailers?

 

What I am saying is to go in looking at it from the perspective of living with it, not from the perspective of rejecting it because it is a TN / IPS / BestBuy screen.

It's easy to identify faults to reject a screen, instead look at it from the perspective of enjoying it and living with it - that's what matters in long term.

So what I am saying is to check it out for yourself, don't listen to the naysayers, they are often wrong. Everyone has a different visual range of acceptance for what they like.

When I hear of someone rejecting a screen for the "usual" TN/IPS reasons, I feel sorry for them because they are missing out on so much of life, like the awesome laptop they rejected.

Sometimes I see those same people reject laptop after laptop, for nitpicking reasons that have little or nothing to do with enjoying the laptop as a whole. It's a sad life for them.

Don't have a sad life, learn to enjoy what you have, and can afford

 

Do you have a best buy near by with a display model? Go look at it.

You're thinking I am saying it's bad simply because it's a TN panel. I've seen good to decent TN panels, this isn't one of them.

If you haven't see the best buy's version in person then I would suggest you do so. If you can live with it, great for you. Some of us want to feel like we are getting what we paid for. No one wants to pay for a $1300 laptop (after tax) to get a screen that looks like it should be on a chromebook.

 

For me it has nothing to do with nitpicking. It has more to do with being misled. I've been looking for a laptop for a while and found this. It has almost everything I'm looking for and, according to Best Buy and Asus, it has an IPS display. I ordered a couple new hard drives and more memory from newegg then went to Best Buy to buy the laptop. It wasn’t until I got home and started using the computer I realized something wasn’t right. My picture looks pretty good, the colors are not washed out but I have to be centered at a good angle to achieve those results. That’s not the way I’m always able use a laptop so I was looking for an IPS display. If I had been walking around Best Buy and saw this computer and saw the limitations of the display I may have still bought it. It’s is a nice laptop, good size and good specs. If the advertised specs on both websites said it has a TN panel I never would have left my house to buy it. I would have continued looking. I know I could always return it and find something that better fits my wants, but I shouldn’t have to. Asus should be held responsible to deliver what they advertise.

 

Exactly

 

Lots of people are misled by not doing their research adequately, and then setting out to purchase with unfounded expectations.

They hear what they want to hear and then run off to get it before thinking things through.

Then they discover they didn't check everything they needed to check, and they find they made incorrect assumptions based on desire expressed as expectation.

It's nothing to get mad about, and certainly they shouldn't blame others by failing to realize it's their problem, it's a learning process.

Eventually they gain the experience to check for *all* the right things before spending money. It saves so much time, and money.

Even with lots of experience it's possible to still fall victim to this very human syndrome. You learn to check things before you leave the store, verify the info on the sides of the box, and open it up in the store immediately after purchase, before driving it home.

Asus lists *all* the options available for laptops, you can't count on the top options as being in the bottom cost model, that low cost in itself should tell you what to expect.

You can't save money buying the lowest optioned Asus laptop and expect to get IPS, 980m, and other top options.

"My picture looks pretty good, the colors are not washed out but I have to be centered at a good angle to achieve those results. That’s not the way I’m always able use a laptop so I was looking for an IPS display. "

"Always" is pretty darned inclusive. What about when you are behind the laptop, directly out of view of the screen? Will the IPS display resolve that problem viewing condition??

No, of course not, you need to turn the laptop to face you. Now, imagine moving the laptop to face you "always", and you can enjoy a TN monitor the same as an IPS monitor

Lift a finger, adjust the laptop screen angle, and learn to participate.

Money coupled with Indignant Entitlement takes *all* the fun out of everything

 

You can't enjoy a TN panel like an IPS one. At least not the ones sitting next to you anyway.

The laptop is great and I have enjoyed it very much however will be returning it and getting one from elsewhere for a higher price for a better screen. I can perform the screen replacement on my own but rather not have to break into the bezel of a newly bought laptop just to do so.

Anyone afraid of buying it shouldn't be. Just don't get the best buy version.

BestBuy : $1300+ after tax.
Amazon/ExcaliberPC : $1399 + Free shipping.

You'll be spending $100 more, but it'll be worth it.

 

What does the Amazon/ExcaliburPC model have over the BestBuy?

 

The better screen.

 

That's all? $100 for IPS screen upgrade? Seems a little steep.

And, then you can't just walk into any BestBuy, you need to work out shipping, costs, and delays for transport dealing with returns.

When you get yours, please post a photo of the backlight bleed, that's always important to check with IPS screens.

 

A poorly designed lcd bezel would cause bleed also since it could be pinching the lcd panel itself but doesn't seem like the GL502 has that issue.

Amazon is free shipping and free return shipping. IPS usually has what people refer to as IPS Glow, so some glow is to be expected.

I live in the US so it's not a big deal to me as far as return shipping and all that jazz.

 

The IPS glow doesn't bother me any more than the TN color shift, you learn to work with it and enjoy it.

 

Good for you.

 

You say "Indignant Entitlement" I say false advertising. Here's the description on Best Buy's product page.

"ASUS ROG GL502VT BSI7N27 - Core i7 6700HQ / 2.6 GHz - Windows 10 Home - 12 GB RAM - 1 TB HDD - no ODD - 15.6" IPS 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) - GF GTX 970M - 802.11ac - black anodized aluminum, black painted plastic, vertical hairline"

Then you scroll down a bit and you see this.

"Product Features
15.6" Full HD display
The 1920 x 1080 resolution boasts impressive color and clarity. IPS technology for wide viewing angles. Energy-efficient LED backlight.

6th Gen Intel¿ Core i7-6700HQ mobile processor
Powerful quad-core, eight-way processing performance. Intel Turbo Boost Technology delivers dynamic extra power when you need it, while increasing energy efficiency when you don't."

On the Asus website they advertise 3 displays, all IPS. Never once mention a forth TN panel.

If it had an i5 instead of an i7 would that upset you? How about 4 gigs of RAM instead of 12, then would you be upset? Maybe they should have shipped the Best Buy model with a GTX 960 instead of the 970. That could save a few dollars and would be acceptable also?

 

If Bestbuy messed up and didn't verify the products contents before listing them, only copying Asus ad copy, then report it so they can fix their web site.

We all catch errors in vendor websites, report it asap - because if you don't, who will?

There was a recent HP website x360 13" configuration page that had "Intel 6500U with Iris 540." as an option.

Of course there is no such CPU, either it's a 6500U with 520 iGPU, or it's a 6560U with an Iris 540 iGPU.

Someone here ordered it and got a 6500U with a 520 iGPU. HP offered to refund them on a return, or credit them for the mistake.

The website was still incorrect for about a week, but a number of people reported it, including that owner, and it was eventually fixed.

It sucks when there is a mislabeling on a product page, but it happens all the time.