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    Asus ROG Strix GL702ZC / G702ZC / S7ZC with Ryzen 7 1700 8-core CPU and a Radeon RX580 GPU

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by sicily428, May 30, 2017.

  1. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    I ****ING CALLED IT! HELL YEAH!

    People told me "no way, they can't fit the 8-core CPUs on there even if they are 65W"
    To those people, bite me :D

    Anyhow, I wonder what the clockspeed will be but regardless, this will be one hell of a powerhouse. Probably the best rendering/streaming/editing/heavy work laptop on the market seeing as the highest we get out of Intel is a quad-core with HT. I would've liked a Vega dGPU but hey, considering it doesn't look that thick or massive, I'm not complaining. Hopefully thermals are good enough to allow for a comfortable 3GHz clockspeed.
     
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    wow impressive... 1700 is much faster than any mobile i7 in multicore
     
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    Samsung's 14nm LPP+ design paying off big time :D
     
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    The biggest advantage of FreeSync over notebook Gsync is it doesn't eat your battery-life since Optimus doesn't work with Gsync, which completely turns off the iGPU.
    Then again Ryzen 7 doesn't have an iGPU so it doesn't benefit from FreeSync either. Raven Ridge on the other hand should work great with Enduro and FreeeSync.
     
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    It's definitely a good first step. I'm definitely more excited to see Vega. I'd love to see them start putting these kinds of chips on thinner and lighter laptops, like the gs73vr. They've definitely made a big leap from before though.
     
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    https://rog.asus.com/articles/g-ser...s-to-gaming-laptops-in-the-rog-strix-gl702zc/

    Ryzen comes to gaming laptops in the ROG Strix GL702ZC
    Articles: G Series Gaming Laptops
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    The Republic of Gamers has been working with AMD for more than a decade. Our very first product, the original Crosshair motherboard, was designed for Athlon 64 FX processors. But we’ve never made a gaming laptop with an AMD CPU—until now. The new ROG Strix GL702ZC marries the latest Ryzen processors with Radeon RX 580 graphics to create a portable gaming machine with versatile horsepower.

    A new Strix Ryzen
    Few processors were more anticipated than AMD’s Ryzen series. Based on an all-new Zen microarchitecture, the chips took the market by storm earlier this year and haven’t let up since. Their strong multithreaded performance is prized by power users for providing enough oomph for simultaneous gaming and streaming, or more productive pursuits, like content creation and heavy multitasking.

    The jewel of the lineup is the Ryzen 7 CPU, which crams a whopping eight cores onto a single chip. Each core can execute two threads in parallel, yielding a staggering 16 logical processors in the Windows Task Manager. Most desktops can’t compete with that kind of power, let alone laptops.

    To be fair, the Strix GL702ZC is practically a desktop under the hood. The top configuration comes with a Ryzen 7 1700 CPU based on the exact same silicon as current desktop parts. Variants of the laptop will also be available with the six-core Ryzen 5 1600 and the quad-core Ryzen 3 1200. Overclocking isn’t supported, though.

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    Radeon graphics meet FreeSync displays
    Ryzen doesn’t waste valuable die area on middling integrated graphics, so we’ve used a discrete solution. AMD’s Radeon RX 580 GPU rides shotgun alongside up to 8GB of dedicated GDDR5 video memory to complete The Red Team duo. There’s enough pixel-pushing muscle to handle the latest games and VR experiences.

    The 17.3” display is available in multiple configurations, including a 4K derivative that tops out at 60Hz, plus 1080p variants at 75Hz and 120Hz. The high-resolution option is great for content creators and gamers who play less demanding titles, while the high-refresh alternative is ideal for action-packed shooters and fast-paced play. All of them support AMD’s FreeSync tech, which synchronizes the display’s refresh rate with the GPU’s frame rate to minimize stuttering that can compromise smooth gameplay. In addition to compensating for performance wrinkles, FreeSync lowers input lag and eliminates visual tearing, resulting in fewer disruptions to your sense of immersion.

    IPS-type panels ensure wide viewing angles across the board. Washed-out colors are the last thing you want when playing split-screen Rocket League or chilling with Netflix and a friend. The displays also have matte coatings that minimize distracting glare and reflections that can divert your focus from the on-screen action.

    All the other boxes ticked
    Despite accommodating desktop-class hardware, the Strix GL702ZC is easy to carry around town or to the next LAN party. The chassis is only 1.3” thick and weighs less than 7 lbs. While that’s still a fair bit larger than ROG’s ultra-slim Zephyrus GX501, it’s still reasonable in the context of typical gaming laptops, especially considering what’s inside.

    The black exterior and brushed aluminum lid set the appropriate gaming tone. So does the red backlighting behind the keyboard and the colored caps for the WASD keys. With 30-key rollover, you can mash the keys frantically in the heat of battle and still be assured that your inputs are registered precisely. The relatively deep 1.6 mm of key travel further improves input by minimizing accidental presses.

    The motherboard tucked under the keyboard sports dual SO-DIMM slots with support for up to 32GB of DDR4-2400 memory. It also has an M.2 slot for NVMe SSDs up to 512GB. Pre-built configurations push storage throughput to 2200MB/s, which is several times the speed of SATA-based SSDs. You can add one of those if you want, too; the chassis has a 2.5” drive bay ready for mechanical or solid-state drives. All told, the GL702ZC can be crammed with enough memory and storage for a potent portable workstation with a massive game library.

    There’s no shortage of external connectivity, either. Gamers will appreciate the wired Gigabit Ethernet jack, which provides a reliably low-latency connection for multiplayer. The onboard 802.11ac Wi-Fi sends and receives through a 2x2 antenna that improves reception for wireless networks, while Bluetooth 4.1 stands ready to interface with mobile devices and wireless peripherals. Auxiliary displays can be powered via DisplayPort and HDMI 2.0, both of which are capable of pushing 4K at 60Hz. And there’s the requisite 3.5-mm audio jack for gaming headsets.

    USB is split between four ports: three Type-A for existing devices, plus one reversible Type-C for next-gen gear. The full-sized card reader is also powered by USB, allowing photographers and videographers to easily grab shots and footage from cameras.

    Pricing and availability
    The ROG Strix GL702ZC will be available later this summer. Check with your local ROG representative for specifics on the configurations destined for your region.
     
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    I put it here!! :cool:
     
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    I really wish this laptop didn't follow the whole "l33t gamer" trend that many laptops have...

    Not even sure why this laptop is targeted towards gamers... I mean, I suppose it beats out the i7 7700hq... but I imagine it's going to have a hefty pricetag for it, with a gpu weaker than a 1060.

    Will wait for someone else to pick up Ryzen. Fingers crossed.
     
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    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    will have pooooor battery life.

    It's nice to have desktop parts in a laptop, but I'd rather they wait for the ryzen mobile chips to come out, not these 65w parts.
     
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    the ryzen 7 chip is actually cheaper than 7700hq. $300 vs 378 msrp

    This should be cheaper than the 7700hq 1060gtx counterpart
     
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    Eber Antony posted on twitter last night that it might come at 1500$. Not bad honestly. The R7 1700 is more than twice as powerful as the i7 7700HQ and the RX 580 desktop beats the 1060 6GB desktop (tho that's due to no power limits) so if they haven't downclocked it too hard you'd be looking at a MUCH more powerful CPU and a GPU that is only about 5-10% behind the 1060.
     
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    It's also using the same chassis as the GL702VS meaning it should be able to handle up to 145W of thermal dissipation before hitting 95*C. Hopefully the information about a 65W binned 580 are true as that would mean 130W total heat generated and thus lower thermals or noise.
     
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    Plus, users themselves can always play around with RX 580 in Wattman and reduce it's core and VRAM voltages if doable.
    But, given that this would be a heavily binned chip (which probably underwelt undervolting as is on 1200 Mhz which should give 480 levels of performance) with half the VRAM of the desktop counterpart (and probably also undervolting on the VRAM), I think 65W would be doable.

    AMD did create the E9550 after which has identical specs to 480 in every respect, except, its TDP is at 95W.
    We know that 480 launched with too high voltages anyway for stock clocks and also that its' VRAM could also be undervolted.
     
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    2ce as powerful for games? Not so much. 2ce as powerful? Oh yeah.

    That was my distinction, why target the gaming market with it?

    580 does NOT beat the 1060.

    Seems like you're looking at yhings with rose colored glasses. I do agree that $1500 is a good price though,
     
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    It's aimed more at power user computing and professionals who need that kind of CPU power in their work which involves games in some way - streaming, video editing, rendering and etc.

    also, enjoy. This is juts one of the many reviews which show the 580 ahead by a decent bit.
    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/reviews/video_cards/the-amd-rx-580-8gb-performance-review/

    As you can also see, RX 570 is on par with a 1060 3GB due to it being cut-down

     
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    I wouldn't say the 580 is a good deal better than the 1060. I guess I wouldn't say it's worse either though. Some games it's equal, some it's 20% weaker and others it's 20% or so stronger. Didn't look at all, but considering the power drAw I imagine the 1060 is a better bet.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.techspot.com/amp/review/1393-radeon-rx-580-vs-geforce-gtx-1060/

    Like it or not, the laptop is marketed for gamers. The trashy aesthetic is proof of that. Which was precisely my point, they should have gone for a less obnoxious look... lose the damn outlined wasd keys for starters.
     
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    Hey now, I like the aesthetic of gaming laptops. I feel they make it look a bit more interesting than the plain old "Black laptop". Hell, I'd pay for a white laptop with blue accents or a Silver laptop with bright yellow accents. That's why I got the orange GL502 over the Red Predator.

    Also - in most cases, the 1060 loses by about 5-10fps. Nothing bad, but it's just fallen behind due to driver and firmware updates to the RX series thus far. That's how it always is. In 2012, the 7970GHz edition was slower than the 680 by a bit. Now, if you look at both refreshes (280X vs 770) - it's a good deal faster. There is a good part to using the same baseline for your GPU series - you get to really fine-tune everything.
     
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    Yeah, that is one thing I noticed. Seems like dx12 games run the 580 better, which I suppose is the future.

    Sure, as a personal laptop it's no biggie. But some people who need the power are usually in some kind of professional environment where appearances do matter. What's the point of putting lights on the back when you don't even see it? (Can't remember if that's the case here, but so many laptops have it)
     
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    As a person who works in an office and needs to dress smart and be constantly professional with clients - I have no shame in using my laptop with all the glitter and lights :D

    Indeed. And even in DX11 games it older DX11 games it performs more than satisfactorily for high-ultra @60.
     
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    It really depends more or less on how well optimized the title is. Hopefully with AMD making a comeback, they'll try to optimize for AMD cards as well so to keep performance on par.
     
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    It depends what you do. If you meet with clients and or individuals, bright lights and colors is actually really good (like you said no shame needed). If you bring a smile to their face with it, as opposed to being ignored as a normal computer, its a big win.

    On the other hand, if you are constantly in board meetings and or presentation; it can be bad, even rude to have a flashy laptop as it can be a distraction to speakers and those sitting near you.
     
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    It also depends on a firm's set of rules. If a firm here does not supply you with a device, they do not insist that your device complies with any regulations. If they want a smart device for their employees (like my sister's job requires) then they buy them business class machines (their firm handed out Lenovo T460 laptops last year for company use only - not bad really, her model has the i5 6200U and a 256GB Intel SSD. Battery life @ 10 hours)
     
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    The amount of garbage software programs I saw on those business laptops is equally appalling as on consumer ones.
    Companies at the very least have their own IT departments, what the heck is preventing them from removing all the demo software that no one ever uses (and bring the OS to as close to the clean version as possible) or at least doing a clean install with the product key and then follow-up with their own software for keeping in touch with the company?

    Seriously, the amount of issues that easily arise from garbage programs floating about is ridiculous.
    You'd imagine companies with their own IT teams would do something about this.
     
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    In my sister's case, the machines were squeaky clean in terms of bloatware. Only the MS software that comes with Win 10 enterprise.
     
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    Damn. I'm just crossing my fingers and waiting for this to come out ;/ ARGH
     
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    Price is very solid, though. 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD, 16GB RAM, R7 1700 and RX 580 laptop for 1600 quid or about 1750-1800$. Not bad. Hopefully, the R5 1600 model will be around 1500-1600$ for a similar spec configuration.
     
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    I'll 100% be getting the ryzen 5 one :p
     
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    Good choice :p

    I was expecting there to be an Intel 6-core version but considering the fact that X299 draws about 400W @ 1.2V vCore, I think that became next to impossible.
     
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    Cough desktop i7 in a laptop
     
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    Those are quad-core ones, though. And they still run in the 90s*C under load because they draw about 90-100W of power :D
     
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    If I recall correctly, that INCLUDES the VAT cost in the tag.

    Ah, you're still right though. Ends up being about 1334 without vat, which is about 1750 usd anyways.
     
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    I want to buy this as long as it's not more than $1000....
     
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    IF there is an R3 1200 + RX 570 model - that might cost 1000$. Though the R7 + 580 one? That's at least 1500$
     
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    Yeah... just another super expensive laptop to carry around for daily use.
    I don't like portable device being that expensive.
     
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    When it comes to laptops, if you want cheap you either need to concede on performance or build quality. You could look into the Clevo N850HP6 if you want to go with a little worse build quality, with good performance.

    Be prepared to repaste the machine, however.
     
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    Yeah, clevo is around 1k... not bad.
     
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    up for preorder not yet released dammit
     
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    Shouldn't take long tough. At least 2 weeks or so for OCUK to start delivering. By that time or may be a little bit later on (by end of july, start of august) it should be available at Amazon and suck.
     
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    I wonder if they could put RX Vega on it. That would beat the crap out of i7 7700hq and gtx1080 laptops :)
    Oh and it is GL702ZC not G702ZC.
     
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    By the time they release Vega for laptops we will most likely find Threadripper in laptops also (Clevo maybe)? :D
     
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    TR and X299 will never be in a laptop. Ryzen is going to be the best we get.
     
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    Someday... At least the G702ZC is using B350, same as the desktop. This should make manufacturing easier, unlike Intel with new chipset for every laptop category.
     
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    I can see Threadripper being in laptops as Zen 2 on 7nm.
    The TDP seems a bit big right now.
    Zen 2 should result in IPC improvements and other enhancements coupled with 7nm (lower power draw).
    So, since asus decided to put a Ryzen 6 and 8 core CPu's in laptops... I'd imagine a similar thing can be done with Zen 2 Threadripper and Vega (or actually Navi by that point).
     
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    How many years have we been on 4 cores? :rolleyes: @hmscott @Phoenix o_O
     
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