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    Asus can't make heatsinks. Arctic help.

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by PulsatingQuasar, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. PulsatingQuasar

    PulsatingQuasar Notebook Consultant

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    So, this is the heatsink solution on the G73JW.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/att...69-asus-g73jw-discussion-thread-g73jw-vga.jpg

    This is not good.

    The only reason they now use paste for the memory chips is because they have the same problem with this heatsink I noticed on the G73JH.

    The memory pads are to resistive for the heatsink to get completely flat on the core. So they removed the RAM pads but there is way to much room for paste so the result is......waaaaay to much paste.

    Please, please, please...... Arctic! Can you make a replacement cooler for the G73JH and JW. I bet they would sell like hotcakes.
     
  2. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Blue ram? Fancy.

    But umm, other than Clevo that's how all heatsinks look. Copper for the die and copper heatpipes surrounded by Aluminum.

    Why are you even complaining? It keeps the GPU cool. This is just absurd.

    But damn, that 460M is twice the size of HD5870M.
     
  3. dark_nerd

    dark_nerd Notebook Consultant

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    ASUS should find a way to get the new thermal pads on the JH
     
  4. PulsatingQuasar

    PulsatingQuasar Notebook Consultant

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    Again, you don't seem to understand. I wasn't even talking about the aluminum and copper. Did you even read my post? I know that is how most heatsinks look.

    I'm talking about the paste on the RAM chips. Read my original post again.
     
  5. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Why not custom make your own heatsink. Shouldn't be difficult. People did it for the C90 GPU and CPU :p
     
  6. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Why do you care about the paste if it's doing it's job? I just don't understand why you are whining that the heatsink allows the 460M to idle at 41C?

    This is absurd...
     
  7. PulsatingQuasar

    PulsatingQuasar Notebook Consultant

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    There are 2 solutions here for Asus:

    - make the heatsink attachment more sturdy. Don't use those bendy things or screws with springs.
    - use the same heatsink method as the CPU and make a separate heatsink for the RAM and other components.
     
  8. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Why do you care about the paste if it's doing it's job? I just don't understand why you are whining that the heatsink allows the 460M to idle at 41C?

    This is absurd...
     
  9. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I like how they do it.

    In fact I took the thermal pads off my vram and tried just paste (didn't make great contact so I went vram<>paste<>copper<>paste<>heatsink).

    But I agree that there is too much paste used. It's probably better to have too much paste than to have thermal pads anyway.
     
  10. PulsatingQuasar

    PulsatingQuasar Notebook Consultant

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    That is a much better solution. Cooling paste which is too thick really doesn't work at all and it makes the video card a complete and utter mess.
     
  11. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    I really don't think you should be the one telling another person to stop whining about GTX 460m and its cooling. Yesterday you were whining about how enormous the card was and how massive the heatsinks was...
    That my friend, is really absurd
     
  12. mindinversion

    mindinversion Notebook Evangelist

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    I dunno, there may be a point to questioning the paste job. I mean, the point is to fill in the microscopic pits and grooves between the heatsink and the processor. Normal instructions for paste appliction site either a very thin layer spread with a Credit card, or an amount equilvilant to a small BB or grain of rice.

    I have yet to see the thermal paste application instructions that cite:

    "Next, apply the paste. Application amount should be approximately the size of half a marshmallow. . . "
     
  13. thescinema

    thescinema Notebook Consultant

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    i smell a troll. are we under a bridge?
     
  14. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Telling me I can't ask why someone would complain over a little paste for better cooling is absurd.

    Hey NBR Members, consult with Cloudfire before you post, it may be absurd for you to question or reply to thread.

    Some people are never happy. Even when they get something good, they will find something as dumb as, oh noes, the paste doesn't look neat!
     
  15. thescinema

    thescinema Notebook Consultant

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    nitpicking at it's finest. i adhere to the old adage, "if it isn't broken don't try fixing it"
     
  16. Kaelang

    Kaelang Requires more Witcher.

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    My RAM sticks are blue. :D

    Yay for fancy RAM!
     
  17. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    If the paste is excessive, why not replace it with good thermal pads, or very thick thermal paste, like ICD7?
     
  18. _Allan_

    _Allan_ Notebook Consultant

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    Call me crazy ... but ... looking at the pic above (JW model) ... it looks like the connectors and motherboard are identical to the JH model ... am I crazy?
     
  19. The Beast

    The Beast Notebook Geek

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    Actually, nVidia is very specific about how much tension there is on thier GPUs once mounted. Thus the heatsinks, the tension devices (screw springs/spring tabs) and thermal interface material (pads/pastes/etc) are all specified by nVidia, not by the OEM that manufactures the end product (Asus in this example).

    If there is paste, not pads, it is per nVidia's specifications. I would not doubt that using pads would not allow for optimal copper-plate/TIM/GPU contact due to tensions caused by the extensive distances of the outer sections of the heatsink that are required to cool off the power components. Think of it as a leverage problem with the fulcrum being the GPU, the further away the pressure the more it will unseat the heatsink from the GPU. If you increase the pressure on the GPU, you increase the force against the mountings at the four corners of the GPU and would essentially go "over spec" in the forces applied to the GPUs PCB.

    Honestly, paste isn't an issue. May look messy, or be a PITA to work with if you disassemble (thus being a BIG concern if you have to RMA the laptop as I would assume the techs probably would screw it up), but overall shoudl do just as good a job as pads. Longevity should be similar as well (there are a lot of pastes that do not dry out that would work well for RAM/transistor cooling).
     
  20. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    No idea. But getting a replacement heatsink for 460M would be impossible. That part I do not think Asus would sell to you. Maybe can get the 460M on their eStore, but not the heatsink, never know.

    But I do not think the JH bios would support it. And you wouldn't be able to just flash a JW bios onto JH as the JW does have different components.
     
  21. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    I believe they also had to turn the wireless card in a different direction just to get the card in there as thats just how huge it is ...

    As for the OPs comment i have no clue what he is talking about with having Arctic help Asus ? lol...

    Also why you do care so much ? are you buying one or just here to complain ?... Meh
     
  22. miahsoul

    miahsoul Notebook Deity

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    My M15x heatsink seems a lot different....
     
  23. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    i agree.. stop whinning.. the temps on G73JH are already quite good.. wait till u see my DV5t temps.. i literally burnt my hands on it...
     
  24. King of Interns

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    Why would anyone want to downgrade from their 5870? For a 480M I can just about understand but not for the inferior even if only slightly 460M.