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    Asus g73jh Cooler and GPU problem

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by PIrKo, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. PIrKo

    PIrKo Newbie

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    Hi all! im a g73 owner and i have 2 questions.

    1.- Do Left cooler work? I dont feel wind.
    2.- 5870m stay 60ºC in iddle... and i play wow full options at 100ºC. Is it a problem?

    I use "Cooler Laptop Notebook Massive23 St Thermaltake -Fan de 23cm‏" but it dident help me.

    Thx
     
  2. stevenjii

    stevenjii Notebook Geek

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    Idle temperature is normal, but the 100C is pretty warm. How long did you play for it to get to 100C and what's the room temperature? When I play wow for about 1 hour doing a 5 man instance I still retain 60-70C temperature.

    You should be feeling slight wind on both of your exhaust vent things. Perhaps one of your vents is defective.

    EDIT* - I don't use any cooling system either.
     
  3. ryukenden

    ryukenden Notebook Evangelist

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    100c is NOT normal. something is wrong with your machine.
     
  4. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    Well that sucks, loose wire maybe? But yea, temps should never go over 75c unless u overclock.
     
  5. BumbleBoner

    BumbleBoner Notebook Evangelist

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    What's your ambient temp for GPU temps of 75C? I idle at 44-47C (ambient 24C/75F) but when gaming it does go up to a max of 91. (But that's with BFBC2 and on High, average of 80C)
     
  6. PIrKo

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    Temperature was 90ºC i played 30 minutes.... room temperature 21ºC left cooler dont work... or it is desactivated?

    WOW options are full... FFx4

    at 90ºC right cooler high wind.... but con left cooler very slow wind...

    Sry my english, i think u understand me.


    thxxx


    EDIT> I test coolers again. GPU iddle... left cooler dont work... but when i start wow it start to work, but both coolers work slow.
     
  7. lastat

    lastat Notebook Consultant

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    How is it possible you have so low temp in idle?
     
  8. Hasib1522

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    the left cooler is for the processor, it won't run in full blast unless the CPU is stressed. Its quite normal. The Right one (which cools the GPU) is usually on in a higher Rotation.

    Having said that, 100C is still pretty high, even at you ambient temps. Try to prop up the bottom of the laptop to ensure air is flowing through there. The machine takes in air from multiple locations not just below the screen.
     
  9. PIrKo

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    hi... i use "Cooler Laptop Notebook Massive23 St Thermaltake -Fan de 23cm‏" and temperature stay at 90ºC i thick that is to high
     
  10. BumbleBoner

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    Underclocked with lower voltages via Ziddy's vBios. At stock clocks at the same operating temperature, I idle at 53-56C (all sensors).
     
  11. Jukens

    Jukens Notebook Geek

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    i get about the same temps with no cooler and the laptop sitting flat not propped up.
     
  12. glyphx

    glyphx Notebook Enthusiast

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    mines prop'd up on a plastic foam thing intended for that, i run in the 80c range with max graphics, i saw 91 a couple times too. any good tools with an alarm on it?
     
  13. schockie

    schockie Notebook Evangelist

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    You could use MSI afterburner, and activate the on screen dispay of the MemIO temp:

    [​IMG]
     
  14. n33

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    I played Crysis for 20 mins today with gfx-setings all set at high.
    I recorded my temperatures with GPU-Z. Ambient temp. 25 oC.

    GPU temp.#1 and GPU temp.#3 both max at at 88 oC, while GPU temp.#2 reached maximum at 99 oC.

    Idle temperatures ranges from 62 oC to 69 oC, GPU temp.#2 being highest.

    After reading through various posts, it seems for me that such high temperatures are "usual" in ASUS g73.
     
  15. sicmofo

    sicmofo Notebook Guru

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    when we say 100C is high for gaming, are we referring to the mem temps or the core temps?
     
  16. schockie

    schockie Notebook Evangelist

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    The thing is, that those temps arent normal for the machine. They appear to be normal couse many people are reading those temps, but what they don't know is that their thermal paste was applied badly when asus assembled it.
    I first got a max 98C when gaming, but after redoing the paste, I get a max of 85C (on my MemIO, same as your temp.#2). When your laptop hits a 99c for your memIO, it degrades your hardware faster, so if I were you , i would reconsider redoing my thermal paste.

    Those would be the MemIO temps, core temps are usualy 10-15C lower under load.
     
  17. DCx

    DCx Banned!

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    What? Hardware degrades from heat? Actually, hardware "degrades" from heat/cold cycles. And that's not even the "hardware", that's the solder joints, and if they're done properly with proper backfill, that won't even happen.

    I've got a p4 prescott that's almost 10 years old, and runs at about 85 under slightly load, and more when pressed. If heat "degraded" components, then I'd have problems. As it stands, my 10 year survivor computer is anecdotal evidence that disproves your claim.

    TO be fair, heat isn't great, but it's not bad.
     
  18. schockie

    schockie Notebook Evangelist

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    So solder joints arent hardware... and if you wanne be exact ye, than it is the cycles that make it worse, however, the hotter it gets, the more it will expand, and the more it will ''degrade''. So if you reach 130C, you won't make it through 1 cycle... If heat doesn't hurt your gpu, why don't you turn off your coolers than ? Save yourself some energy ?....
    And if your that much of a scientist, i would say the sentence "TO be fair, heat isn't great, but it's not bad", is a big FAIL... Its not great, but its not bad eighter ? Than what is it? Good? Mediocre ?...
     
  19. DCx

    DCx Banned!

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    Well, if your computer temp goes over NINE THOUUUUSAND then you're epic. But yeah, OBVIOUSLY 130 isn't good, when the tjunction is set at 110. That's a "duh" statement right away.

    Now OIL isn't good for a car ... I MEAN soaking in a barrel of oil is bad, pouring it on the seats is bad ... but having a little bit inside an car is GOOD. So long as it is where it belongs. You know, having the graphics card get hot (but not hot enough to trip tjunction or even outside of ASUS spec) is probably what you expect. If it got colder when you used it, that would be weird. The cooling on the g73 is such that even if the card hits 105, the area around the card is well ventilated and cool. Maybe you didn't notice the cooling system in the g73. Do you have one? Because I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing here.

    I'm going to educate you in the difference between a little and a lot, but it's like this - You've got a little brain. If it was bigger, it wouldn't fit in your head. Having a slightly larger brain isn't bad, UNLESS it causes problems, like having your head ASSSPLOOOODE....

    My original statement was basically "Heat:It's not GOOD for the computer, but it's not BAD for the computer."

    Maybe I should have said "Within Tolerance Heat: It won't make your computer faster, but it won't make it slower either. Nor will it break sooner if it's hot or slower if it's cold. It won't make you breakfast in bed, but it won't drink your last redbull either. It isn't going to make you happy, nor will it make you sad. It has no positive, redeeming qualities but no negative detracting ones either."

    Perhaps I should have said "Regular fluctuations of near-normal temperatures operating within standard parameters of operational design will not affect your hardware in any performance degrading manner. Setting the computer on fire, however, WILL".

    Seriously. YOU are why we need "Attention: Coffee HOT" labels on hot coffee.

    Gawd, I just fed a troll.
     
  20. schockie

    schockie Notebook Evangelist

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    What do you think that first post was about? Read between the lines :D The intire post is a ''DUH'' statement towards you, Captain Obvious...

    PS: Its not the size of the brain that matters, its the quantity of twists and bendings that defines a person's IQ ;)
     
  21. n33

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    After reading through more posts it seems the best for me is to repaste my GPU properly.

    That youtube video is very instructive on how to disassemble the Asus g73, but what I don't know yet is how to actually remove the GPU from the heatsink (or from rest of gfx-card so to speak). I'm a newbie in this, so any advice would be great.
    - Do I first have to disassemble the gfx-card or is the GPU right there visible?
    - I assume the GPU is almost glued to the rest of the heatsink/gfx-card
    (due to the original paste - if any, lol) . How do you actually detach the GPU safely it in order to clean it?

    Again, thanks for any instructions :)
     
  22. gstboy

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    The gpu is screwed down onto the motherboard but you don't have to take it off to redo your thermal compound. All you have to do is unscrew the four screws on the heatsink that are attached with springs on them. You can just peel the heatsink off the gpu after that. They even have numbers on the heatsink next to the screws that you can follow when screwing it back down.