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    Asus rog gx500

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by IKAS V, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. IKAS V

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    http://rog.asus.com/324762014/g-ser...-the-coolest-ultra-thin-15-6-gaming-notebook/



    AnandTech | ASUS Launches the ROG GX500, a 4K UHD 15-inch Gaming Notebook
     
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    860m and i7 in a thin chassis - there will be lots of fan noise, despite dual fans.
    Hopefully not, but i'm afraid that will be the case.
    I'd rather have same components and 1080p (because i prefer to use native resolution) matte IPS screen in N56 size chassis.
     
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    Nah, if cooling is done PROPERLY it can still be silent.
    Even the razer manages to put a 100W GPU part in a smaller, 14 inch, case.

    So why would a 45W in 15,6" case not work? Examples enough that work that way:
    retina macbook, dell xps 15, razer, lenovo y50, etc
     
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    Man thats one hell of a laptop, but price will likely prevent me from getting it :(

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    Finally one of the first gaming notebooks that isnt all about bling bling, FINALLY!!
    It looks stunning, even in bad lighting conditions
     
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    Here's a short video in English: TMN Viral Player (PRODUCTION)

    Screenshot 2014-06-03 11.57.33.jpg
    Looks like dual storage is a possibility but PCI-e x4 will be split if both are used. Still plenty fast! I wish that earlier video was in English because he had an awful lot to say. I'm guessing the front edge is sharp. I'm also guessing this isn't a touchscreen?
     
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    Oh man if this were to come out in time for back to school I would jump all over it, but seeing Q3 makes me think not.
     
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    Hopefully this Laptop will arrive with Full HD Only aswell.
    I dont need any resolution beyond 1920x1080. The GPU isnt fast enough anyway!
    But this laptop definitely looks nice, looking forward to more information about it.
    Whats your opinion? Worthy opponent for the gs60/70, Razer Blade and co. or just mainstream?
     
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    1080p is a 4:1 perfect scale for 4k so you can run it with no scaling issues at that res.
     
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    I would say worthy competitor if you don't NEED the 870M. The games I play, I could easily get by playing at 1080p with an 860M. Also, this should scale to 1080p better than both of those laptops since it's divisible. RB scales well to 1600x900 which is great for a 14" screen anyways. If it's cheaper than $2k, this is a bargain because the SSD is totally futureproof, which the competition lacks. The only thing it's inferior in is the video card. The SSD and screen are going to be major selling points. 16GB of ram beats the Razer Blade. Thickness is perfect. Asus Zenbooks and RoG generally have excellent trackpads which the GS60 lacks.

    Edit: I sent my Razer Blade back for a refund because of a defect. I was considering rebuying it when it went back in stock but am now seriously considering waiting for this laptop. I was very disappointed in the lack of storage options in the Razer and the screen was just average to me(not the greatest viewing angles). Still a nice machine but I think the GX500 will be better, even with the lighter video card.
     
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    That is the theory, i have seen that written a lot of times, but not an actual evidence that it is true
     
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    So pardon my ignorance, but why exactly is the storage in this laptop superior than other ssds? I'm not familiar with the technical aspects in this particular situation...

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    Since this one can offer RAID or PCIe based SSDs, which are still very rare but much faster (although for intensive tasks): speaking about 700-1000MB/s instead of the SATA3 500MB/s ones, No SATA controller is required so less latency is an advantage too
     
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    The theoretical limit of Pcie x4 is almost 4GB/sec. SATA III is limited to about 550MB/s unless you use caching or put drives in RAID. The laptop won't come with a drive that fast, but in 4 years they might be available and in larger sizes.
     
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    That would be great - I just have a tough time believing it until they make an official announcement. They were selling their UX301LA last October for over 2K and it didn't even have a graphics card. That was a ridiculously expensive CPU though so there's that.
     
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    Yeah I'm skeptical too but if its really under 2k for top model that would be literally the perfect portable gaming laptop on the market IMO :D. But September to October release date :( I've been waiting for so long. Hopefully they will release the prices before that...

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    Count on a delay too. I've never seen them launch on time. Usually prices get announced a few weeks before.

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    Ugh why is technology so fast moving forward :( I swear to god by the time this is released some laptop with broadwell and 20nm maxwell will be announced lol...

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    Wow I've been waiting to get an MSI gs60 for ages and i'm currently waiting for my 3k pre-order to ship out and now asus decides to announce this?? Might be worth returning or canceling my order to wait for this but then again is it worth changing a 870m with a 3k display for a 860m and a 4k display?
     
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    it will come 5 months too late :(
     
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    I've pretty much come to terms that modern gaming on 3k/4k laptops isn't ready yet. Razer blade didn't do too well on a lot of games and I had a tough time telling the difference since most of the textures were 2k anyways. You're basically getting a 4k desktop/media/web experience coupled with a 2k gaming experience if you get this laptop.

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    So now they hopped on the razer blade bandwagon expect us to game with WiFi?
     
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    Edit: unless you find 20-30 fps to be acceptable, then 4k gaming will be fine.
     
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    It greatly depends what games you are running.
    You will still be able to get 30FPS+ on older games like CS, L4D, TF2, etc @ 4K
    More demanding games can be run @ 2K

    Also keep in mind within a few months 4K bluray standard will be finished. So you will be able to watch native a 4K movie,
    already netflix supports 4K, although that is compressed 4K it still looks way better than 2K.
    Also all your pictures you have taken are already above 4K res so will also take benefit.

    So basicly only gaming CAN be an issue, but not in all cases. I know this is a GAMING notebook, but still..
    You still wont be able to game at 4K on a 870M or 880M either.

    Anyway a have 15" 1080p display now, and with 100% windows scaling is rather tiny (but handy sometimes=more workspace),
    since this is 4K 200% scaling would give the same size as what i have now. Do any of you know if there is a 250% scaling option in windows 8.1 ?
     
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    Razer had custom scaling for theirs and they did a great job right out of the box. I would hope Asus would also do the same favor.

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    Theoretically you could, put i've never seen a panel or GPU driver that would do that.
    It's always same blurry bilinear scaling, even if pixel multiplying would be possible.
    Make a custom resolution of 960*540 for 1080p panel and you'll see.
     
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    Sure, they work, they just work with more noise.

    Razer Blade 14, 23.5mm thick, 117 Watt peak consumption, 49 dB peak noise.
    Review Razer Blade 14 Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

    Asus N56JR, 25.5mm thick, 110 Watt peak consumption, 42 dB peak noise.
    Review Update Asus N56JR-S4080H Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

    Razer isn't that bad though, as fan noise is described as unobtrusive (non-whiny), despite high dB.
    So let's hope GX500 is more like Razer than MSI.
    I'm excited about the GX500 too, just afraid it will be noisy like UX51VZ.
    Review Asus Zenbook UX51VZ (U500VZ) Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

    edit: added two missing decimal dots.
     
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    Where did you get your dimension figures. The Razer Blade 14 is not 235mm thick, and the N56JR is not 255mm thick. Did you perhaps mean 23.5 and 25.5?
     
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    Yes 23.5 and 25.5 of course :)
     
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    Wait for reviews before complaining about fan noise! Yes it can be distracting and a major turnoff for some people but give it a chance before blowing it off.
    As far as we know we don't know anything about there thermal solution for this laptop but if anything ASUS knows cooling while being relatively quiet from the much thicker "older" ROG models so maybe they learned a thing or two while in development .
     
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    With 19mm thickness it's 99% likely to be noisy, GS60/RB both are noisy and they are a bit thicker, it's just the nature of these laptops, they have a true quad core i7 cpu and mid range GPU in a very thin case.
    Lenovo Y50 got similar specs and it's quite but it's much thicker 19mm asus vs 24mm Lenovo (and Lenovo removed the 2x msata slots to save space for fans + smaller battery)
     
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    Have you tested all 3? The RB is not all that bad. Heck, even the GS60 isn't bad compared to other's I've seen. I've never heard the Y50 but I would assume the top fan speed occurs less frequently since it's cooling an 860M instead of an 870M. Hopefully that is the case with the gx500 but even if it sound's like the RB, I won't be disappointed.
     
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    One thing I've noticed in both the NX500 and GX500 so far is the viewing angles "seem" good. Every panning video I've seen, the image stays consistent. Of course it's a prototype so hopefully they don't cheap out.
     
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    Noisy fans are subjective, a low pitched whoosh at higher dB is better than high pitch whoosh at lower dB.
    I have a RB 14 and it can get loud but I wouldn't call it noisy, now my MSI GT60 now that's noisy even when it's much thicker but to each his own.
    It may be noisy but all I'm saying is give it a chance before throwing it under the bus.
     
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    GT60 got nothing to do with any of this plus GT60 is a single fan laptop to begin with
    RB is noisy (to plenty of people loud = noisy, we want silent/barely audible) and it gets hot as hell

    Lenovo is not doing any magic, they are simply using bigger case/fans and they are cooling a MAXWELL GTX 860m instead of kepler GTX860 OR 870 of the GS60/RB, the Y50 during load/gaming noise is equal to gs60 at idle, it's that much of a difference
    Y50 while being cheaper/cooler/silent it got a lot of cons compared to GS60/RB, for example it have only hdmi output(no 4k output)/single hd slot+no msata/ a little bigger+heavier/weaker gpu (860 vs 870) and TN panel vs the superior display of the GS60/RB as you see ton of cons lol

    But yeah if someone wants a laptop that is barely bigger/heavier than GS60/RB, doesn't care about the cons i listed then for half the price then the Y50 is no brainer
     
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    Sorry if this was asked or answered but the GX500 has a touch screen?

    I am assuming this could be a ULV i7 and not a fullblown quadcore i7.
     
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    In all the videos, absolutely nobody touched the screen so I assume no. It's a full quad core i7, model is a page or so back
     
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    Do you own the Y50 and if so have a way to test how loud it gets? I've seen absolutely nothing on the fan noise except users saying it sounds pretty quiet(which means nothing to me). I see your point but either way you look at it, there's no way to speculate on the GX500 based on your original assumption that it will be louder because it's thinner. They also will have a Maxwell 860M and might have that very same fan. Nobody knows at this point.
     
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    There are reviews already, everyone who got the Y50 mentioned how silent it was, take a look at gs60 thread half of posts are people want a software or bios update to reduce fans noise, and RB plenty of reviews out it gets hot at hell during gaming to the point where you can't keep your finger more than 3 seconds at the keyboard without feeling uncomfortable

    Idle: Y50 [silent] | GS60 [audible]
    Load: Y50 [bit audible] | GS60 [loud]
    Heavy Load: Y50 [audible] | GS60 [louder still]

    GS60 =
    Noise: This computer is noisy - no other way to say it. It will always be making some noise. Even at idle, the fan has a noticeable hum to it around 2800 rpm. Once you increase the workload, it quickly increases to a very noticeable pitch. This is loud enough to be disruptive in a meeting or classroom, but not loud enough to cause any issues with someone watching a show in the same room with you. My wife said that she noticed it, but didn't consider it bothersome as she had no problem hearing the TV. I won't be using this in any setting where the noise may be a problem so I don't think this is a deal breaker for me. With that said, this is the largest negative that this laptop has

    MSI GS60 Ghost/GhostPro Owners' Lounge - [H]ard|Forum
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/741832-y50-thread-394.html

    Asus rog gx500 is the thinnest of all mentioned laptops, it's simply the fans will be slim and tiny to fit which will create a very noisy laptop during load/gaming
     
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    Forgive me if I missed it, but is the HDMI out 2.0?
     
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    Yes let's hope for the best.
    At least ASUS track record has been pretty decent in the past.

    Looks like they have also a thicker version baking in the oven, the G551
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-updates-ROG-lineup-with-the-GX500-and-G551.118192.0.html
    At least it will plenty of space for efficient cooling. But hopefully GX500 will succeed in that too.
     
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    No kidding the GT60 has nothing to do with this I was just trying to compare noise levels for vastly different laptops, and yes I know about the Y50, it's seems like a decent laptop but has a crappy screen.
    Sheesh you are very upset over nothing bro, calm down!
     
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    Yeah, not all of us are 100% gamers. I need a new laptop for doing office productivity work, hobby photo editing work, and some gaming on the side. The specs on this laptop are almost perfect for my needs. The only thing it's missing is a dedicated ethernet port for my network consulting work.

    This is really dependent on the panel. Scaling when the display resolution doesn't match the panel resolution is controlled by the panel hardware. Some do a poor job, some do a good job. Some of the early LCD panels I saw would do bilinear scaling on integer multiples, but the recent ones I've seen have no problem with 2:1 scaling when they detect an integer multiple.

    If you're basing this on connecting a computer up to a HDTV, don't. TVs don't display a 1:1 image, they overscan, even digital ones.

    Yeah, a well-designed fan will generate noise at frequencies our ears are less sensitive to. It'll also spread the noise out across a wide variety of frequencies, instead of piling all that energy into a narrow frequency band, so the peak noise at any one frequency is still very low.
    Xiph.Org - Digital Show & Tell (episode 2) - YouTube
     
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    Cooling system pics, says minimum noise :)
    Updated the thread with more info too and pics too
    image.jpg
     
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    Does anybody think there is any chance of Asus squeezing a proper numpad into this thing? I haven't seen one on the pics & videos posted so far. Not a dealbreaker, but there must be room?

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    does this one have the maxwell chip or the keplar version?
     
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    Pretty sure its Maxwell. Could be wrong, but they'd be working uphill using Kepler in such a thin form factor trying to go for a cool build. Can't see anything on official website, but am sure I've read its maxwell.

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