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    Battlefield 3 on the G73-jh

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Andrei Pavel, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. Andrei Pavel

    Andrei Pavel Notebook Geek

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    How does it work for you?
    I am averaging 28-35 fps on 1080p, all ultra, ssao, no AA.
     
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    Really?

    Even on the Beta im only getting 30 to 50fps on medium. Which driver are you using?
     
  3. shockre

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    i'm still playing with the settings, but all ultra without aa works OKish.. but not good enough for smooth playing.
     
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    So, is BF3 optimized now?
     
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    Yeah , i'd like to know from people who already got the retail version ( or , somehow , something from the internet taken from the retail version -_- ) : how is it compare to the beta ?
     
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    I was going to buy it today, but i want to know how it preforms on the G74. I'm not wasting my money on a game that doesn't preform.
     
  7. shockre

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    i have the retail version. works much better then beta. 11.10 driver still have to be released, i'm using beta ones. but everything high without aa works just fine.
     
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    At 750/1050 with Catalyst 11.10v3 runs awesome at 1080p in high (automatic) as the game detected my system's specs. Tweaking a bit, I disabled AA, texture to ultra and Ambient Occlusion to SSAO and runs even better. Roughly 40 to 50 fps.
     
  10. Kingpinzero

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    I have the retail version activated thru VPN btw.
    And with my gaming oc my gtx 460m really struggles to get playable framerates, doesn't matter what details you use.
    If I play SP having framerates are 30-45 (max, such looking at empty zones, floor, etch). Most of the time is 30fps no matter what happens on screen.
    The lowest it dropped is 28-26. Now the question if that those framerates aren't good at all in MP. People's with desktops that can push more than 50fps will have the advantage always due to faster action/response.
    If this was a console game then 30fps would be perfect.
    Lowering details doesn't help at all, maybe 2-3 fps, still an average way below 45 fps which is considered "decent" for mp gaming.

    As an example I've tried 768p with maxed out details (no AA and no post AA) and the game STILL struggles to get in 40fps range.
    Literally from ultra 768p to ultra 1080p the difference is a mere 5 fps which is absurd.

    The hd5870 is more potent than the gtx460m, but I doubt It can push 10fps more. Maybe 2-4fps, but that's all.
    A sandy bridge like mine prolly fills the gap between the 460 and the 5870, but this game is just another The Witcher 2.

    Which means: not playable unless you got a $3k sli/crossfire laptop. This sucks. I want to hear others reporting on the matter as well but as it turns out this game doesn't go friendly with laptops at all.
     
  11. KuroLionheart

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    I've never had a problem with 30FPS. More than playable.
     
  12. Kingpinzero

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    Not if you're into competitive online play.
    As I said I'm happy with the performance in single player, since I'm getting 32-35 fps of average.

    What it bothers me is that even lowering details doesn't help to get performance above 45fps in mp.
    This way getting killed and score a negative ratio is so much easy.
    Well I have my desktop that's ok, but I was seriously expecting better performance from it that's all. :)
    Anyway if 30fps range is the target, gtx460m with a good oc can be able to play it without hassle with all ultra/HBAO without AA.
     
  13. KuroLionheart

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    There's never been a moment in any PC game online where I thought "That guy beat me because his computer is better than mine". That just...doesn't happen. For me, 30 is playable and very much doable. I do fine online, never had a problem ever. But really it depends on the game. Some games even at 30 run really badly but BF3 is not one of those games.
     
  14. Kingpinzero

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    I know what youre talking about, but still mate with much respect, that doesnt apply to competitive/tournament gaming.

    I also know that this type of discussion doesnt lead anywhere because if you plan to play "serious" you have to get at least a desktop, which i have.

    BF3 at 30fps runs beatifully smooth, thats right. But its far from being perfectly balanced in MP. Peoples with higher fps than yours will always have less lag, less latency, more responsivness and so on.

    Anyway thats not the whole point, and ive gone OT, i know that, so sorry..i was just reassuring SW and JH users that BF3 runs ok, with some overclock.
     
  15. RampageX

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    So, does bf3 ever go under 30 fps
     
  16. Kingpinzero

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    It does yes, with 1080p/ultra/hbao but no AA or post AA. The lowest ive seen is 26fps which strangely turned out to be smooth lol.
     
  17. Crogge

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    You should be happy to get 30FPS+ in such modern games. I could cry when I see some of the mondern games on the PS3 and XBOX360, the FPS there is often dropping below 20FPS followed by loading lags and the game itself runs only at 720P.
     
  18. Catzoo

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    Being happy for being able to play games at a non enjoyable framerate with a 1400€ laptop ?

    No sir , no thank. yes this is a laptop , yes this is not the " highest end " laptop , but hey wake up , some games runs SO FAST compared to BF3 !

    Don't forget that games are for the masses , i don't care to have an ugly game ( yes , we have to lower settings , so it's ugly ) to run at decent frame rate for the game being REALLY enjoyable with everything on ultra for what ? 1 to 5% PC gamer that have cross fire / SLI 580 cards ?

    No.

    They develop a new engine ? GREAT ! It's beautiful with a VERY high end laptop and high end desktop ? GREAT ! Now , go back to work developpers, and create an engine that won't look even more ugly with lower frame rate than previous game !

    A shame ! Battlefield 3 with low settings is way more ugly than BFBC on medium settings @60FPS.

    And you know what ? I'm so right on this , that i can tell you that COD will sell a lot more than BF. I'm far from being a COD fan , but if you want to sell many games , just develop a game that run as well on high end PC than " supermarket PC "

    Anyway , i will probably buy the game cause i have a voucher code from local store and i'll grab the game for 1/3 of the original price , hoping they will patch games and drivers for it to run much better ...
     
  19. schockie

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    Are you talking about the Beta or the retail version ?

    Edit: From your previous post, its obvious to me that you are talking about the beta.
    Don't post here if you don't know what you are talking about. Seriously.
    Watch the video here, and it'll explain to you why: http://tweakers.net/video/4179/dice-gamers-snappen-concept-beta-niet.html
    Not starting another comment-rage, just trying to pump some sence into you.
     
  20. RampageX

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    i think retail
     
  21. schockie

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    i think beta :p
     
  22. RampageX

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    Nice investigating! :D
    BTW: Schockie do you have the retail version, and how does it compare to the beta?
     
  23. schockie

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    If you're referring to the 'troubled' post I posted above, you got me there :D, I don't have the game yet (pre-ordered it 3 months ago, if that counts). But as a few here already said, it runs 40-50 fps on high detail and 1080p.

    Dont base your judgement on the beta. Its there for a reason.

    Trust me when I say this, the game will be awesome, and it will run on high on our G73's. And don't take my word for it, just wait a couple of weeks till they get their (ATI) in order and see :).
     
  24. CrappyAlloy

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    Preloaded retail version off of Amazon for 40 bucks; runs low 30's to mid 40's at 1080p all high (inluding AA and AF to 16x), and hbao on. The only difficulty Im having is deceiding between the KB&M or a controller...lol if anyone can figure out how to get the controller to work for cut scene animations, or all of the vechical controls, do tell :) I cannot get it to work fully even having scaned over the key bindings half a dozen times.
     
  25. schockie

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    Have you tried Xpadder.com ?
     
  26. Andrei Pavel

    Andrei Pavel Notebook Geek

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    Sorry, but I don't believe you. With my overclocked (850/1300) 5870m I get that fps without MSAA and only SSAO. With AA and HBAO, I'm averaging 20-30 fps. I have the latest driver and vbios, so your fps don't seem plausible...
     
  27. RampageX

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    Are you on high or ultra?
     
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    It wasn't in any kind of Rage or trolling , it was just my own opinion about a game that comes out in 2011 , like many other. Performance talking , this game " seems " to be optimise for high end computer , wich is , still in my opinion , a bad idea.

    Though , i was talkin about the Beta i use to play on my Asus G serie , and sure i was talkin' about the Beta. But , as i said in another topic , i wasn't really confident that the game would be so much improved in so short time. Seriously , between the end of the beta , and gold ver' ... no that much time.

    As i also said , i'm gonna buy the game this week and give it a try cause i can have it for cheap , but the beta was , for me , kinda disapointing. Some people here seems to say that the actual retail version works better than the beta , but we're far from 60FPS ... And to be honest , i'm quite excited to know if i were right ... or if the games now runs smooth ( and i'll send a kiss to Dice for making a real beta , wich is not the case 90% of the time )
     
  29. RampageX

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    they should have postponed the game or atleast have so many patches it make my head spin. I payed $1500 and i can't play a $60 game? I should have gotten an AW laptop
    BTW: Im Raging Now :mad:
     
  30. joepring

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    Guys, I've got a problem playing on my G73Jh on Realtek 2.66 drivers. It freezes the whole laptop randomly every 5-15 minutes on multiplayer. I read that it concerns with Punkbuster conflicting with the Realtek drivers. Schokie? RampageX? Catzoo? CrappyAlloy? Andrei Pavel? KuroLionheart? Kingpinzero? Any one of you provide what Realtek drivers you are using? Thanks. PM would be okay.

    So far it goes like this.

    Can play single player without problem
    Can play multiplayer without problem with audio DISABLED at device manager with punkbuster.
    Can play multiplayer without problem without punkbuster with audio
     
  31. schockie

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    Welcome to the forum! I'd suggest you use the sticky:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...blems-useful-threads-read-before-posting.html
    and just look for 'creative' or 'realtek'.
    Make sure your BIOS & vBIOS are updated to get the maximum outof your G73 ;).

    (if you wouldn't know how to, just ctrl+F that as well in the sticky)
     
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    Wait what? lol there are others claiming higher FPS at ultra settings and your calling me out? Well when I get home and have the time to play Ill be happy to take some screenies. The only thing I can think of is the AA, but for me, for w/e reason, it defaulted to being on, and set to High

    @Schockie: Ill have to check that out, :) thanks.
     
  33. Yiddo

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    Andrei those overclocks 850/1300 are very high and could be the reason your seeing poor results that is a huge overclock! Just like Schockie's is and that will require a lot of power and still I dont see how that can be stable try dropping it and seeing if your performance improves.

    Also as this game is CPU intensive Crappy Del Toro has the 840QM overclocked and that will give a nice boost over the 720QM. The 920XM gets very hot with BF3,...

    Nice and hot :) :) :)

    I was seeing great results in BETA much better than others just by having my 5870M running at 800/1100 but my 920XM running flat out 3.33ghz*4. 80oC-90oC
     
  34. schockie

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    Hihi the future looks bright :cool:

    ..
    ..

    Oh god! Its my brick burning up! :rolleyes:
     
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    /facepalm

    TY Sir Dallers, as I indeed forgot about the possible CPU difference lol anything below an 840 is below the recommended specs for the game last I checked (being a 2ghz quad core as recommended)

    Schockie: Hmmm just took a look at that, its not that the game doesnt recognize it, its that some of the controls dont work, some of the time lol its weird, but wouldnt that xpadder deal mess up the driver my 360 wireless receiver has to use, to use my wireless 360 controller? If it were wired it might be another story

    EDIT: let me give an example. the A button, replicates the space bar, which is jump, normally this works just fine, if I need to jump, I hit A and my guy jumps, I keep playing and the controller is recognized and all goes well. But now lets say a cut scene activates, and I need to jump off of a train because its about to blow up, and in the cut scene it tells me to hit the Space bar, if I hit A, nothing happens, and I die. Then the game reloads, and I get another chance, and the only way to get past said cut scene is to use the keyboard/mouse variants/controls, its weird. Same thing with vehicles, if it tells me I need to do something at a particular time, I cannot (such as the jet level/scene) because the game it seems doesnt recognize the controller for these scenes or special actions. My guess is the only way around this then is for DICE to release another update to make it a little more compatible with controllers?

    EDIT2: That xpad seems to have solved the issues thus far! :D
     
  36. Yiddo

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    All that physics and frostbite crap they have thrown in needs a lot of processing. Chop Chop download I wanna play BF3 :)

    In the process of moving in with the mrs I fear my game time will suffer...

    Luckily its not till December :) Time enough for Skyrim!
     
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    My friend it probably happens all the time and you dont know it.

    I can run 30 @ high as well but just sit still in street somewhere and
    quickly move left to right and see how smooth it is.

    Then set everything to low and repeat. You will see it is much more
    smooth and easier to move quickly and look at something when
    running 40-50

    That is the advantage someone has with a better card. You run by
    him and he easily spins, locks, and ur dead.

    Same situation with you running 30 and when you spin it may
    take a second to find him.
     
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    2.4G core 2 duo, or any quad four.
     
  39. AlwaysSearching

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    Another thing I noticed while playing with all the settings is I could
    see little visual difference between low, med, and high default
    configurations.

    Yes fps decreased and a slight difference in appearance but nothing
    that jumped out at me. Anyone else notice this?

    I also think low configuration is comparable ( maybe better ) then
    my higher settings for BFBC2 ( everything max, no hbao, low shadows ).

    Just some observations.
     
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    Yea the Core 2 was MINIMUM, not recommended ;)
     
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    here are my settings am getting 27-45 FPS but most of the time is between 30-35.. am on 11.9 CCC and you can see my specs below.. + i use GPU OC... I can say the game is pretty smooth for me i didnt encounter any lags..!
    my gpu peaked 91c (almost every heavy game i played my gpu peaks ate 87-91c) room temperature 24c.
    cheers
     
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    840-1680-1600
    All ultra/blur/HBAO but no AA. Besides the postAA is gimmick, it takes 2fps hit and it blurs the image too much since its the old FXAA version, better you don't use it at all..

    Anyway I had a little session in multi on Tehran Highway. 40-43 fps of average at 900p.
    Temps were rather ok, gpu peaked 80c and CPU 70, but also here is Fall already and room temp is around 20c.
     
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    Glad to hear :D Xpadder has never let me down. You shouldv seen the look on my friend's faces when I controlled my windows 7 with it :p. They are easely amused though..
     
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    AMRAAM_Missiles, can you post a screen shot of the settings you're using?

    Your gameplay looks really smooth, and very playable. I'm considering buying this game but wondering at which settings I'll have to run it.

    Thanks!
     
  46. schockie

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    I would be so pissed if that would happen to me. I can see myself raging infront of my laptop lol.
    Can't wait to get my hands on it though ^^.

    PS: what settings were you using ? standard clocks ?
     
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    I am on 1600x900, no blur, no HBAO, no AF, no AA, Medium all except Texture. :D
     
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    Some comparison screens in 900p, 5870m (using 11.8) overclocked at 830 /1250 and i7 920xm at 3.5Ghz.

    I actually don't like playing fps bellow 60, but thanks to motion blur, this game feels good at 30fps+ :p

    Also, some effect in ultra are activated restarting the level and I didn't do this...

    And I don't know how to make a proper comparison shots, sorry ;)

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    Reading this thread is making me regret buying BF3 for my Ps3 instead of my G73. I assumed the G73 wouldn't be able to handle it based on my experiences with the Alpha/Beta, but I guess I was wrong.
     
  50. Kingpinzero

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    You bet you'd do.
    If you were taking about 360 version maye you had a point here; besides higher fps 360 version has the high res texture package that can be installed and the console upscaled it to 1080p via the hardware scaler Hana.
    On ps3 things get worse. It runs at 720p, it has lower res details and textures not to mention lower framerates.
    Plus on both consoles maps are smaller with less players.
    Even if you run the game at console native res such 720p you'll be able to enjoy massive servers and ultra details since they're super fine at 720/768p on our g series.
    Easily this game doesnt belong on consoles, maybe CoD does, but not bf.
     
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