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    Complete Guide for overclock your Asus G73JW etc!

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by i7.Asus, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. Divine_Madcat

    Divine_Madcat Notebook Evangelist

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    Right - and that is what i was showing in the first shot - wPrime is running all 4 cores 100%, and with that, i am getting 14x150. But i was also showing that even with single core, it is getting a significant boost... :)
     
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    either way, it causes some really bad instability with certain applications (networked gaming, specifically).
     
  3. Divine_Madcat

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    What speed are you at? Each chip (and ram) will be different - if you are having stability issues, you need to back the clocks down a bit. I am able to play WoW just fine (pure networked game) for hours on end ( I am sad to say, heh) with my 150Mhz FSB OC..
     
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    This is kinda off topic. SetFSB won't on the G73SW until they release the update for our board correct?
     
  5. Divine_Madcat

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    I would assume that to be correct. It will all depend on determining what PLL chip is used in the SW, and if SetCPU's maker can get the data for it.
     
  6. clstirens

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    Just to make correction, turning twinturbo ON brings the fsb to 153, turning it off back down to 139 (this is on my system, of course).

    This is the case if you have already have set your clock. So overclocking, then hitting twin turbo will clock you BACK DOWN to a lower clock. Turning it back off will clock you back down to DEFAULT.

    Having twin turbo on or off when you use setFSB DOES NOT MATTER. It is only the switching on and off that alters anything.
     
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    Id say so, nearly as good as mine and I have an 840 =/ lol
     
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    Can you use these overclocks on a daily basis? Do you have it set to start at windows startup? Is this a mild overclock or extreme?

    I have a GTX 460m and I saw this guide so I just set my clocks to 800/1600/1480, I see improvement but I'm worried to use my laptop at these settings for too long.
     
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    i7.Asus Notebook Guru

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    You dont need to worry as longest the tempeture is good! But if you want to be sure, just put this overclock settings when you are about to play!

    Good luck everyone!
     
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    So as long as the temps are not above 90 then there's no damage being done whatsoever to the GPU or laptop, and it won't lessen the life span of my computer?

    I just bought this Toshiba X505 with i5 and GTX460 and I don't want to destroy or shorten it's life, since the only thing I actually use it for is Battlefield Bad Company 2, which I play more than 6 hours for a gaming session, I'm not kidding. lol

    Can you tell me if you have set the overclock to your default, if not how often do you use it?
     
  12. Divine_Madcat

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    Correct - In actual use, the only thing that will damage your system is heat. Every CPU i have owned has been overclocked, and all are still running good (Including an AMD 1.8 clocked to 2.8 for several years straight). Keep em cool, and you are fine.
     
  13. jacob808

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    Thanks Madcat, it's nice to now about the AMD overclocked CPU that's still performing well over the years, although I don't overclock my CPU, I've noticed it reaches about 77-80c, are these normal temps when gaming? How bout GPUs? When mine's is overclocked and underload it runs between 70-80 C. Would these temps be fine to run my overclock day in and day out?
     
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    Gents,

    I was running an overclock with setfsb of 150mhz, easy. I updated the bios to 203 and now I can't even get it above 146mhz, any thoughts? Is there a way to rollback the bios?

    Thanks,

    Jared
     
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    Is there an alternatives to setfsb, but one that is as good as setfsb and free too?
     
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    Got it fixed. There is a program built into the BIOS called, "Easy Flash." You just run that with the old version of the bios downloaded for Asus, and bam, done. Very easy and efficient.

    - Jared
     
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    Hey Guys, I found how to overclock the cpu of a G73JW without buying setfsb !!! I'm creating a new thread (coming soon) ;p
     
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    Hope you finish fast, I really can't donate 6 dollars because i don't have a credit card.
     
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    For an nvidia card, that's about right. AMD cards tend to run hotter, and are built as such. Especially for a laptop card, anything in double digits is ... okay. Not great, but okay.

    For a desktop card though? You should keep it under 60 ... why? Because you can.
     
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    excellent thread!!! THANKS!!
     
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    Sorry to sylphyaj about posting this but this is how I overclocked my i7 740qm with the free version of setfsb.
    Well obviously the first step is to go to SetFSB_HomePage and download the freeware version. Once it is dowloaded unzip the rar file and open setfsb.

    Next you will click were it says "Diagnosis" and you will change the clock generator to the last option which is "PLL diagnosis". Then click "Get FSB".

    In the bottom part a bunch a numbers and letters will appear. You will want to change the furthermost left number in the corner from 49 to 29. To do this click on the number and in the box that says hex beside it you erase the number 49 and put 29. Then click "Update" and "Apply".

    Now to finally start overclocking!!! Change the number under the 29 you just put to a higher one using the same process you did before. You can also put the number 3 with a capital letter. For example 3A or 3B, but i found that if I put it to 3C it fails prime95 and at 3D the computer freezes instantly.

    Sorry if it too extensive for the more advanced overclockers but I did it this way so people not that experienced with setfsb or overclocking can do it. And sorry for no pics but having problem uploading them.

    Anyway thanks for all the help this forum has provided me and I hope this helps people like me without the money to donate to get the full version of setfsb. Happy overclocking!
     
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    Hi! I have a g73jw and overclocked both gpu and cpu. The gpu is working great and the cpu at 182 fsb is reaching 3.5ghz but I am worried about the temperature, what should the temperature on the cpu be?
     
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    I believe the chip should be safe with operating temperatures anywhere up to around 105 degrees. Interestingly, I have run some test and I found that when the chip gets too hot (usually around 95 degrees) it will automatically halve it's multiplier for a few seconds to lower the temperature. I was able to find this using the CPU-Z program mentioned in the OP and speedfan.

    It runs at a 22 or 21 multiplier when idle and stays at that when only 1 or 2 cores active under load. Using prime95 when all the cores are under load the multiplier will drop to 13 or 14. 13 times 133mhz(the default fsb speed) = 1729mhz the advertised speed of the chip.

    With the asus twin turbo enabled the fsb speed is set to 142. 142 times 13 = 1846 a free ~7% overclock when all cores are active.

    With setFSB I was able to get my FSB to 156.8 which would equal 156.8 * 14(multiplier under load) = 2195mhz on all 4 cores, and 156.8 * 21 = 3292mhz for programs using only 1 thread, a ~20% overclock, not bad.

    Increasing the FSB more than that created errors in prime95 which is not good so I'm fine with the 156 fsb. Even when it's fully overclock the multiplier will still cut down to 7 occasionally to help reduce the heat. It looks like you'd really have to try to do any permanent damage to this chip. :D
     
  24. turqrazor

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    I have done some more testing and found that contray to my previous post it is much better to turn off Asus Twin Turbo (and uninstall the software if you can too).

    It turns out that I can get a faster more stable OC with it off and also my temps are running about 8-10 degrees lower with it off as well. Playing around with CPU-Z I noticed that leaving TT on really screws up the multiplier, with it off I get a constant 14x multiplier under load instead of the random 7x-14x multiplier swings with it on. A constant 14x multiplier is much faster in the long run than an unstable fluctuating multiplier with a FSB that is 4mhz faster I think.

    Not sure what the reason for this is but it seems that TT does nothing except make your laptop effectively slower in multithreaded apps, makes it run hotter, and makes it less stable, more likely to have CPU errors in prime95 and more prone to thermal shutdowns.

    I tested it in some processor heavy games(Napoleon Total War, and GTA IV) and I notice that I seem to be getting higher frame rates with TT off and a regular OC than with it on.
     
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    Yup, it's pretty well substantiated. TT disables the on the fly overclock, and sets all 4 threads to +1 clock.
     
  26. turqrazor

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    What exactly do you mean by +1 clock?
     
  27. DCx

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    I guess this and this will explain it best - I suppose I should have said +1 turbo clock.

    Long story short, turbo boost is rated by "steps". TT locks you in at +1 step on all the cores, which turboboost will do automatically if required ... so TT really lost it's importance with the Core I series. Before, with the C2D/C2Q, it was a nice one-touch overclock, though.
     
  28. maykon_helver

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    Hi Friends
    I need your help to try to increase a little more overclock my GPU, Most think it necessary to increase the tension
    How can I do this.
    I looked at various topics and Fermi bios editor guide - Guru3D.com Forums Someone understands.
    is safe

    I try to reach 850 GHz clock on the GPU (I think I need 1Volt here to stay stable)
    Currently the limit is that you @ 815/1630/1500 Volt 0.91 (Stable)
    when trying to go beyond the system hangs

    Already prepared my GPU overclocking, I'm using a better thermal paste and did cleaning Heatsinks

    Now only need to know if it is possible to edit the BIOS of the GPU to increase a little more tension
    I think the ideal is 1volt

    someone who understands to help me
     
  29. DCx

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    Try different drivers.

    As for getting a higher overclock, your chip might simply not be capable.
     
  30. svl7

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    Increasing the voltage can make a huge difference. On my 5850 max clocks for benching was at about 805 MHz... and this was accompanied by a lot of graphical artefacts. When I increased the voltage from standard to 1.15 I was able to bench at about 920 MHz without artefacts... (Though that was an extreme increase an causes a lot of additional heat, but a slightly smaller voltage increase got me great, stable clocks for gaming)

    So if you really wan't to push your card harder you need to look into editing the vbios, yes. Tools you need are for example Nibitor and NVflash and also a DOS bootable USB stick. There are a lot of nice tutorials about how to use these tools on the web. Make sure to take your time and be careful. It's not difficult when you follow the rules and take some care.

    Make sure not to flash clock that won't work. Better use a slight increase of voltage and clocks first. You can still OC the the card further from within Windows once you have changed the voltage and test other clocks.
     
  31. hackness

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    You cannot tweak the voltage of a GTX460M, normally GPUs come with 4 voltage levels and there's one that's higher than the default voltage. The problem is that GTX460M only comes with 2 voltage levels and both are used as default voltage.

    I tried tweaking the original vBIOS through NiBiTor and the fermi voltage table is grayed out, it means that there's no options for voltage tweaking.

    All you can do with flashing is changing the clock/shader/bump shader*/memory and the fan speed for minimum/maximum (Default: 30%/100%).

    *The speed value of bump shader on a GTX460M is the same value as shader speed (ratio 1:1) but it's higher on some 400 and 500 desktop series.

    Check this post out: Re:Need help tweaking the voltage of a GTX460M on G73JW - MVKTech Support Forums :: mvk.tech :: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 570 560 460 ATI Radeon HD 6970 6950 6870 5970 :: MVKTech :: On the Edge of Technology
     
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    Aww, too bad! If it can't be done with Nibitor I don't know of a different way (unless someone has some crazy disassembling skills, lol)
     
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    yes it is already possible to edit the voltage GTX460m the NVIDIA BIOS Editor (NiBiTor) version 6.01

    Someone already knows how to do?? someone could create the bios edited and post here for us.

    deserves attention.
     
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    Hello friends! Continuing the saga of Overclocking perfect! hahahaha

    I did some tests here with my current overclock Video (810/1620/1620) (Stable)
    After 10 minutes of testing using FurMark, My maximum temperature was 88 degrees Celsius.

    Was running at 1280x720 4XMSAA

    FPS was in the Minimum 23, maximum 27, Avg 25,

    WHAT do you think of my temperature?
    88 degrees for this test was normal considering that I live in Brazil (ambient temperature of 28 degrees)

    I was thinking of making the exchange of thermal paste, using a better quality as the MX2, what do you think?

    Another doubt is, can I use the thermal paste in the video memory (GDR5)
    subistituir the thermal pad that comes on them

    I can not overclock Stable Above 810mhz GPU, there are people reporting that can reach 850MHz, and the question, can stay stable at 850MHz?
    tested with Furmark?

    hugs!
     
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    Really? I'll try this on my colleagues G73JW (if he's going to let me do it) I can post a report afterwards. Hope I find some time doing this next week.
     
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    Hi,

    Well, It is kind of ridiculous to overclock the G53/G73, since all games work

    almost at 60fps excluding crysis 1 and crysis war head.

    to everyone who has already overclocked his laptop, it is okay to keep the

    gpu temp below 90 but for how long it would be constant ???

    if the main ventilation system is partially blocked by dust or anything else,

    the temp should rise greatly and then the main board will be damaged.

    think about it, if you insist to overclock it, try at least to make oc profiles :).
     
  38. hackness

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    I'd like to know where did you hear this from, the answer I got was from the person who writes NiBiTor and he comfirmed that you can not edit the voltage of a GTX460M vBIOS in NiBiTor as there's no selectable fermi voltage table provided in the vBIOS itself (The only 2 voltage levels are already in use!). P.S. I hold a NiBiTor 6.03 and the fermi voltage table is still grayed out in it.

    and here are the sources if you want to check: Source 1 and Source 2
     
  39. hendrixboogie

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    I take it back. My GPU is still not underclocking by itself. Any solutions? I made sure power management was set to adaptive, but it doesn't seem to help.
     
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    Hello and Thank you for your complete explaination.
    I also have a G73jw, and use it for x-plane and flight simulator,

    after installing CPU-Z
    I see 996.3 MHz in the Core Speed Tab
    and x7 in the Multiplier Tab

    yours says 2815.15 MHz in the ore Speed Tab
    and x20 in the Multiplier Tab


    what means this differences? Am I missing some thing or is there something wrong with my laptop?
    Thank you to let me know...
    Patrick,
     
  41. Rodd

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    Hi i7.Asus & thanks for the guide!
    I have ov my G73jw everything is stable & fine when running tests in prime95 & 3DMark06.....but when flying in FSX for 20-40min i get an shutdown (event: Kernel-Power ID:41) any ideas on how I can solve this?

    Asus G73JW-TY190V - i5 460M / 4GB / 500GB / 17" TFT / GF GTX 460M/W7HP
     
  42. Larcau

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    Try uninstalling Power4Gear, its known to cause crashes on some G73's while overclocking.
     
  43. hackness

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    This thread is so old that was created even before we discovered that GTX460M can be overvolted lol. A lot of people are having the sudden shutdown you had, we still have yet to find a solution for it, it even occurs quicker when the GPU is overvolted, what we think is that the GTX460M could be sending a halt signal to the Mobo when it reaches a certain amount of current. You might find this happen more often in Battlefield 3 at clocks like 840/1600 as it uses the GPU heavily.
     
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    Asus G73jh

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    anyone know how i can get the full version of setfsb, paypal isnt allowing donations to be sent.
     
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    Thanks so very very much!
     
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