Considering the G751

Hello ASUS users.

As you know, the new GTX 980M series has arrived, and it's in the G751. Some of you may realise that my sig contains an M18x R1, I am an Alienware owner, who is considering a swap to ASUS as Alienware has not yet released 900M based notebooks, and I am tired of waiting so I am looking into other options.

I have some questions.

Warranty; EU Law (to my understanding) means minimum 2 years of warranty on Electrical products, (correct me if it's different for buying ASUS PCs from Amazon UK, for Alienware it's 2 years because of EU law).

1. Is it possible to extend the warranty? I'd like at least 3 years total warranty (with or without EU law applying)

2. General build quality? Are you proud ASUS owners?

3. How many HDDs can I have? I know there is an M.2 slot that can be used for SATA (I think?) so that's 2 HDDs? Any more slots?

Thanks for any replies.

 

1. Depends on the reseller.
2. Check the g751 thread. The guys at the office seemed pleased.
3. 2x 2.5 inch OR m.2 and 1x 2.5".

 

Have you considered the MSI G72 Dominator Pro ?

- Easier to disassemble and clean the dust, reapply thermal paste
- Slightly cooler temps under heavy load for the CPU and GPU, and when idle
- the Nvidia 980M comes with 8GB VRAM instead of 4GB
- Same price point as the Asus G751

 

Hey Ron, yes I have been looking around. I heard MSI tends to have worse build quality, are these just hater comments?

I must admit,the 8GB vRAM is nice.

Curious though, how does one usually upgrade warranty for ASUS/MSi? With Alienware, you just call. Same for these two brands?

 

From a reseller you can grab it as you buy it but I think you can call too.

 

Umgh, they're not at the same pricepoint.. MSI has been asking for absurd amount of dosh for their GT72.. Its like $500 more...

I'd say on the whole, people have reported more issues with build quality from MSI then Asus.. Keyboard flex issues, plastic etc... GT72 seems to be ok but honestly, G751 isn't bad.. I'd say the only downside is that repasting the G751 is a pain in the just as its been since the G73... However, if you repaste once, I never had to with my G73JH for almost 4 years...

 

after owning 4 ASUS laptops...I would never buy an ASUS laptop again...but if you had to choose between the above 2 the JZ no question

Never had an Alienware before because of its high price. I had 3 ASUS Gaming laptops, G73Sw, G75VW, and G750JX

After being frustrated with ASUS's bad driver support, and lack of official drivers for Windows 7, I sold my G750JX and got this Alienware.

Now I know why they cost an arm and a leg

1) much better build quality, it's like you bought a Mercedes as opposed to a honda civic

2) Warranty is much better, if the laptop spoils, they will come to your house and fix it at your home the next business day. When my G750JX stopped booting within 6 months of owning it, I had to drive to the service center which is very far, and it took them 7 days to replace the motherboard

3) I wanted a bigger screen and ASUS only have 17.3' screens. This 18.4' screen is a dream to play and surf on

4) I didn't ask for it, but I got a freebie dual GeForce GTX 770M so my performance has never been better

5) I love the lighting effects of Alienware

6) Their audio and KLIPSCH speakers blow the ASUS G750JX out of the water in terms of loudness and quality although both use a Realtek Chipset, but the speakers are better and the Alienware comes with the Dolby Home Theater which improves the audio quality by a great mile

7) All ASUS laptops has a problem with the left USB 3.0 Ports. You plug in a USB 3.0 HDD to the left top or left bottom ports and it will randomly keep disconnecting. That is for all G750 series, JX,JW,JH,JZ,JavaScript, you name it. don't believe me, just hang around on the ROG forums and see the jokes of problems they have. pathetic for the amount of money you pay. problems with screens,m auto dimming problem, contrast problem.

I wouldn't use an ASUS laptop anymore even if they gave it to me for free! cheap Taiwanese crap!

Did I forget to mention...

their implementation of Optimus is messed up...it is very tricky to force games to use your nVIDIA GPU unless you do a lot of settings and even then users on their forums complain that the freakin' games are using the Intel HD Graphics! LOL! horrible!

with Alienware, there are no such mishaps...you press FN + F5 and the laptop reboots activating the nVIDIA GPUs and it's stuck like that until you press FN + F5. no room for error of a gaming even seeing your Intel HD Graphics!

you want Testimony ? Please take the time to read this:

why ASUS? because people who buy ASUS cannot afford Alienware, no other reason on earth...that's a fact...I am one of them...

First laptop, 2 years ago..

G73Sw:

bought it and ran home like a little child wanting to see my lights in the chiclet keyboards....ooops...no lights...tried all driver updates..BIOS update...nope..

Called ASUS, they told me to bring it to the service center it's an easy fix!! whaaaat?? I buy a 2000 USD laptop and go to the service center next day? oh well..I did and they activated it with their BIOS tweak utility that they don't give to customers! great quality control Taiwanese Engineers! send out laptops for sale that don't work properly as advertised...

after 1 week...the screen started giving me fuzzy images...closing/opening the screen lid fixed the problem....wow!! what did I buy? a 1990 Toyotal Corolla or a brand new gaming laptop??

They said they need to replace my screen! wow!! the laptop can't last a week without being repaired! i fought for a refund and got it after a long hassle...

next laptop...

ASUS G75VW,

ASUS decided to remove their awesome creative sound blaster audio chipset and put some cheap VIA audio chipset which made the subwoofer act like a center speaker rather than a subwoofer..

also..I only had the option to get the matte screen...oh well...people say matte is good...right? NOPE! not on ASUS! the ASUS matte screens look as if someone spilled grease all over them. very grainy image especially if you look at a white screen such as these forums or Google..if you look close..you can see the pixels of colorful rainbows! again shocked in awe for this cheap crap!

So I called ASUS complaining about the quality of the screen, they offered to change it to the 3D screen not coz I want 3D, but only because that is the only screen they have that is Glossy..

took the laptop...2 days..I get a call...sorry sir, we changed your screen, but fried your motherboard....we have no spare motherboards...so if you pay $500 USD we can give you a G750JX instead or you can wait till god knows when till we get a motherboard from Taiwan...

so I got the G750JX...

very bad driver support....ASUS released the win 8.1 drivers after 6 months of win 8.1 was released...anyone who upgraded while having the old drivers either got a non booting laptop after the upgrade due to outdated bluetooth/wifi drivers or had horrible problems....

next comes the 2D performance of their GTX770M....there is something not right about it! 3D was fine and performed as it should...but 2D was glitchy and choppy...imagine even a simple game of solitaire..the motion of the cards wasn't fluid...I used to get jealouse when I see my friends' Intel HD Graphics perform so smoothly in the Windows environment while my brand new gaming laptop cries in 2D...opening tabs in firefox...wow..another plethora of jerkiness / slow motion

next...they put cheap Atheros WLAN chipsets which cannot connect above 72 MBPS!! wow! had to pay 50 USD and get a Bigfoot Wireless N-Killer from the US and pay customs just to have a laptop perform like a normal computer

next.... USB 3.0 problems..

basically, I had to connect my USB drives to the right ports and the left ones were kept for my mouse and printer? why? because ASUS cannot produce a piece of hardware that functions right! they claim all ports are USB 3.0 and they are all in blue color...BIG LIE! it wasn't only me, I posted this on the ROG forums and every single one of the members verified the same!

I can't find my thread that I started, but here are 2 examples I quickly grabbed:

Asus G750 USB 3.0 Ports not working with some things

and

Is it normal that the top left USB port is very slow?

ASUS? HELLL NO!!

Worst case scenario, save some money and wait, then get a real gaming laptop from Alienware and be happy for life! rather than bite your fingers after you buy your ASUS

A quick Google search on the G750JX presents exactly what I experienced! I've probably formatted that laptop over 200 times twice daily just trying to make it work but every time some quirk happens...

USB 3.0 sooooo Slow on ASUS g750 jx [Solved] - Asus - Laptop Tech Support

USB problems G750 JX

Just got a G750JX, and with it, a whole suite of problems..

Asus ROG: G750JX-RB71 Screen Ghosting..

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/727019-big-green-float-g750jx-screen.html

G750JX Cheap display, horizontal lines - www.hardwarezone.com.sg

Brand New Asus G750JX-RB71 has been crashing repeatedly

G750JX - 1day old - Black Screen and not Booting

 

Alienware is not really an option right now, they don't have 900M series, they are very good build quality but have fallen in recent years with their Alienware 18, the M17x/M18x is superior in build quality, they are still great.

Again, AW is not really an option as they do not have 900 series GPUs as an option.

I've decided to go for MSi, good warranty, 900M series (with 8GB vRAM) and 4 M2 SSD slots already justifies price increase over ASUS G751 now for me.

This is not to say ASUS G751 is not a BEAST, but atm the MSi is drawing my attention more with what it offers. I have to wait for stocks to replenish on both the MSi and ASUS models, so I have some more time to decide.

Of course, if Alienware offers 900 series as an option, I'll be the first to order.

Oh, and thanks everyone for your comments, I really appreciate them and you have all made fair points about both brands, which to me shows that both have good build quality and I know that which ever I choose, it won't be a wrong one.

If I do leave Alienware, I'll miss the On-Site repairs. Definitely.

 

If you don't need MASSES of m.2 storage the xp941 will give you the performance of 2 or 3 m.2 sata drives and then you can put a 2tb hdd for more space in the other slot for a very efficient setup.

 

Thanks Meaker, as I understand it the GT72 has 4 M2 slots and the ASUS G751 has 1, so I could put 4/1 of these (depending on notebook) Samsung M2 drives in?

As far as I'm aware, there are no 1TB M2s out yet? I tried a search and got nothing.

As for a 2TB HDD, I had the intention of purchasing a Samsung M9T 2TB HDD, any other suggestions?

 

That's the best HDD, the MSI notebook uses SATA m.2 so you can'y use the samsung drives in that.

 

The ssd drive in the g751 is a pcie drive, which performs as well as about 3 of those m2's in the gt72 striped together. This is because the asus ssd runs on the pcie bus instead of sata, like the m2s. The m2 drives also run very hot, which could be an issue if running 3-4 in 1 slot. The ssd in the asus is far superior.

In Canada, the gt72 is about $300 more than the asus. A 1 year extension on the warranty for the asus runs $130. So for me, the asus is about $170 cheaper with identical warranties, 128 gb more storage space on the ssd (which is much faster), 8 gb more ram (overkill), and an IPS screen!

The MSI has more video ram (8 vs 4) and a bd burner. Those are the main advantages. You wont use the xtra vram unless you play at high resolutions on external monitors. 1080p on the native screen wont be an issue.

I have had my g73jh since july 2010 and have had no issues besides a thermal repaste, which asus did in their depot in about 30 mins while I waited.

 

Well both are a trade off, the msi offers higher capacity while the Asus offers higher speed from a single drive (in large file transfers, they will be the same for small files).

 

I've been debating something similar and just pulled the trigger on the Asus G751. The reviews were great and it seemed to meet my needs. I'll gladly send an update when it arrives. The screen really grabbed me as well, along with the cooling.


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Let us know how you get on Should give you some nice gaming sessions

 

Hey, just thought out about this and I know its probably too late but why didn't you look at a dual GPU Clevo? You could have got dual 980Ms..

 

To sum up the ASUS G751:

Pluses:

-Very powerful with great gaming performance
-Excellent keyboard, but slightly annoying layout
-Solid build quality (but very heavy)

Minuses:

-Has problem with speakers where sound comes only out of the subwoofer
-Has issue where the two left USB 3.0 ports cannot sustain transfer speeds with external drives
-IPS panel has very noticeable and distracting "IPS glow" on blacks and dark scenes (for me anyway)

 

Most 17 inch machines of this class will be around the same weight.