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    Cooler for G53sw

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by smw0516, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. smw0516

    smw0516 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, I'm planning to buy asus g53sw and a cooler as well, although a lot of people say that the g53+ laptops don't really need a cooler.

    I just wanna be safe on all measures and I'm sure its no harm to have one, whether or not the effect is profound.

    I'm stuck choosing between thermaltake massive 23' and the zalman NC 1000 /2000.

    I searched this forum and there seems to be a split opinion between users who use thermaltake and zalman.

    Some say that since the g53+ laptops suck air into the bottom of the laptop, one should get a cooler that blows air upwards.

    I'm given to understand that zalman sucks air downwards(?) and that thermaltake blows air upwards.

    If I am wrong about this, please correct me, and can you guys help me choose which would be better?

    thanks much!
     
  2. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    I'm using an old nc-2000 Zalman.
    G53sw has some opening on the service panel, but it doesn't suck air from there.
    The whole cooling system is managed by the two vents on the back of screen hinges.
    One sucks air in the other pulls it out.
    Since those openings basically reflects both heatsink locations it's ok to have a cooler.
    The nc2000 has 3 fans adjustable blowing air directly on that area basically it helps into slowing down the temps from ramping up violently.
    Hope it helps.
     
  3. zafota

    zafota Notebook Geek

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    I went and bought a CoolerMaster SF19.. it maybe is a little pricey compared to others, but i like the fact that it has its own external power supply(not USB), you can control fan speeds manually, and has cable management features. Oh and you can move the fans around..

    plus its a little flashy ^_^
     
  4. FlyingFalcon

    FlyingFalcon Notebook Evangelist

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    I have the exact same laptop as you and I'm planning on buying the same cooler. Can you tell me How effective the cooler is please? I'm looking at that as well as the Thermaltake massive23 and zalman nc3000.
     
  5. steelblueskies

    steelblueskies Notebook Geek

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    uh. both ports on mine push air OUT the back. intake mainly through bottom vents. o_O if this isn't how its intended to work someone must have mismounted a unidirectional blower fan somehow.

    get slightly better performance by placing thermaltake usb powered desktop fans( Thermaltakeusa»Accessories»USB Accessory»Mobile Fan II - 8CM : Mobile Fan II - 8CM A1888) in the same direction as vent airflow. they help pull air away from the exhaust area.

    but seriously your g53sw has one port pulling air in and the other out?? which ones doing which? left side when facing screen is usually low rpm until 90C on the cpu( its the cpu fan side after all). and the right hand side is usually moving more air generally(gpu side).
     
  6. FlyingFalcon

    FlyingFalcon Notebook Evangelist

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    Both vents push air OUT. Idk why so many people have the misconception that one vent pulls in air while the other pushes it out.
     
  7. noyade233

    noyade233 Newbie

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    I use a Cooler Master Notepal X2 on my G53SW which blows air at the bottom of the laptop. At full fan speed, I saw over a 8c difference in temps on my gpu.

    Both vents in the back blow out on my G53SW.
     
  8. FlyingFalcon

    FlyingFalcon Notebook Evangelist

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    The CoolerMaster notepal x2? Is it really that powerful? I have a coolermaster notepal u2 which i use for my Toshiba A500. I don't think that is powerful enough. I know it will have no effect on my G53. Can the fan speeds be controlled on the X2? Does it draw power from the usb port or ac power?
     
  9. steelblueskies

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    hmm only thought it worth asking as kingpin is more veteran than me lol.

    as to the why people think that, there are two stock pictures asus put out detailing the airflow for the system and reused by resellers all over the place in the system details /marketing fluffy bunny bs talk. one shows arrows in on one side and out the other with a top down diagram/image. the more common one thats actually correct is the one kind of aimed at the back corner of the diagram/image with arrows pointing out of each.

    guess it just depends on which you saw first which one stuck in your head.

    i will say however for coolers on the underside the single giant fan types seem to work poorly compared to the multiple smaller fan types. i think the large single fan types create a airflow deadzone in line with the center of the fan in such a confined space, and when combined with the shape, proximity and dimensions of the intake on the bottom of the chassis actually impedes airflow .

    shrugs.

    p.s. -and its clear they can't install the fans on these backwards. the fan and shroud units themselves are D shaped and only fit the space in the chassis two ways, both of which force air in the same orientation. you'd have to grind off the right angle portions of the plastic housing on the fan and turn it into an O shape to place it to reverse airflow. ;)

    now back to figuring out what exactly the blue squishy low density marshmellow pad/paste material they used gobs of all over is actually made of. strangest thermal material i've seen in a notebook yet..
     
  10. noyade233

    noyade233 Newbie

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    It draws power from the usb port and the fan speed can be controlled. I'm sure other cooling pads can move more air but the x2 seems to be working well for me. The reason I got the pad was because the gap created by the rubber feet on my G53SW wasn't enough to get good air flow under the laptop. Just raising the laptop 2 inches off my desk dropped my temp by 4c. Combining that with the fan blowing and I got about a 8c drop give or take.
     
  11. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    I am loving my SF-19 not only because its a fantastic cooler but its very sturdy has a pefect tilt and is a perfect height for me on my bed. Looks cool and offers external power supply and USB ports. Not to mention two jumbo fans which give the impression a plane is taking off, or you can have them running nice and stealthy.

    I have had the NC-2000 and NC-3000U before this and they are quality coolers too its depends if you are just looking for a cooler or something to really bring the temps down, the advantage of the NC coolers are they offer the elevation without the noise due to their quiet but slower fan setup.

    If you remove the maintenance panel and run both fans over 2000rpm I have seen it knock upto 8oC off my maximum temp.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  12. FlyingFalcon

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    That is true. Raising my laptop 2 inches above my desk gave me a reduction of around 4C on idle. I'm looking at getting a coolermaster sf19. Or a zalman nc3000. I'm so confused.
     
  13. Yiddo

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    I really liked the NC3000 Falcon but it does not beat the SF19 for the extra money although the price of a SF is pretty steep for a cooler but it is very well made.

    The NC3000 also raises the laptop at an angle allowing plenty of air to get underneith it to the one large fan.
     
  14. FlyingFalcon

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    Is your sf the one with the usb3.0 ports? The sf with the usb2.0 ports cost lesser than the zalman nc3000 on amazon where I'll be buying it from. I've almost finalized on the sf cuz I've heard more good than bad about it.
     
  15. smw0516

    smw0516 Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks for the answers, but to sum up all the replies, NC1000 and both thermaltake 23' work well on asus g53sw? i think i'm just going to buy nc1000?
     
  16. delike

    delike Newbie

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    Hi, I'm still confused where is the air come into the laptop. On their website, it shows a blue arrows coming in from the front and hot air go out from the back. I think that's the copper cooler they mean...
    However, where are the air coming in and go out from the back? I used compress air blow from the bottom holes and the air out from the back didn't really increase much. It make sense since there is a huge mother board blocking. the copper pipes are in the other side of the mother board. I have cool master NotePal X2 and Cool master U2. Both of them didn't really cool down my G53sw that much than without them.

    I have been emailing ASUS customer service, and all the answer I got is junk like "Generally, the laptop just has air vent out on the left or right side of it, or the back."

    I've been playing Final Fantasy XIV. Since the game graphic engine eat lots graphic resource, my laptop get warm quickly. I tried to take down the DVD drive. I can feel lots air got suck in from the hole I created. It cool down the CPU side, but still not help much on the GPU side.
     
  17. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    The G73/53 are made to force the hot air out of the laptop there is no reason for cold air to come into it so although they claim that air flows through it that is just a marketing trick.

    However because the GPU is positioned directly below the maintenance panel by removing or modding it and blasting cold air directly onto the heatsink and into the laptop it will affect the temps just do not expect miracles.

    @Falcon no I just have USB 2.0 ports and yes it is cheaper and to be honest I have never actually used them I find the 4 on the laptop are more than enough and I am in no hurry to remove large amount of data through usb or charge faster than 2.0.
     
  18. FlyingFalcon

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    There are intake vents on the front below the screen ahead of where the speakers are. If you look carefully, you'll sf dust accumulated on both left and right sides. That's where air enters from. Some people say the keyboard and usb ports suck in air too. Maybe or maybe not. No idea about that.
     
  19. riku2replica

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    There more than 1 place the air is going to flow in from? I realize there's a tiny for the bottom panel but it would be insufficient for standard air flow. My initial thought is the air flow is back vents only as those fan has a flow of catching air in and directing air out.
     
  20. FlyingFalcon

    FlyingFalcon Notebook Evangelist

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    No. Air flows OUT through the vents at the back and in through the openings below the screen in front of the speakers.
     
  21. smw0516

    smw0516 Notebook Enthusiast

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    guys, I get that the air flows out from the two holes at the back and in through the openings above the keyboard area(?), but I don't get how this helps with my original question, are there any holes sucking air in from the bottom of the laptop, and whether or not I should choose a cooler that blows air into the bottom of the laptop or sucks air away from the bottom of the laptop,

    the zalman nc1000 or the thermaltake I mentioned?
     
  22. zafota

    zafota Notebook Geek

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    Flying Falcon - I havent tested it yet cuz im still waiting for my shipment to arrive.. I'll get back to you on that.

    And

    Air Blows at the back. I think its pretty easy to determine that since just putting your hands behind the vents you can feel the air pushing out.

    And the intakes openings are
    1. just above the "Power Button" and on the top right of keyboard.
    2. those "3 asus rog buttons" on the top left.

    It's really not that visible since the openings are covered by the base of the screen. But its there. If you tilt your screen way back, you will see Dust accumulating on two square holes on both sides.

    And getting a laptop cooler might help with lowering heat since those two are not the only openings G-series notebooks have. There is still an opening below where you can find the HDD's.

    At full speed, those two fans for GPU and CPU push out ALOT of air so those two small "intake" holes would be sort of a bottleneck for airflow since they are really small. Maybe that's why they added an opening below the notebook.

    My guess is having a cooler forcing cool air from below could definitely lower temps.


    Oh and choose a cooler with high CFM ratings
     
  23. FlyingFalcon

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    The G53JW has two small vents at the bottom but i don't think much air enters through that opening.
     
  24. Yiddo

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    If all of the vents were blocked up the difference will be minimal, as mentioned on the last page the design is made to force hot air out of the laptop not necessarily to get cold air in. The laptop when at idle will not be pushing out operating temps to worry about and at load the heatsink and radiator dual fan setup is made that way to handle the cooling, although being entirely copper would have made a much better cooling system.

    If you want to get cold air into the laptop remove or mod the maintenance panel because the GPU and CPU are facing downwards directly above the maintenance panel opening.
     
  25. smw0516

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    so can you help me decide which one to get? nc1000 or thermaltake 23' ?
     
  26. Yiddo

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    Its simple NC1000 if you want stealthy, quiet and compact. Minimal benefit from the fan/s.

    Thermaltake 23 is like an Alienware laptop big, brash and slightly noisy with fancy lights. But looks the dogs chestnuts. Maximum benefit from the fan/s.
     
  27. smw0516

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    which means the thermaltake 23' would have better performance as a cooler on the asus g53sw laptop? correct?@@ sorry i am so dumb D:
     
  28. Yiddo

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    If you intend to whip the panel off underneith and blast air in yes it would.

    But dont expect miracles sadly the G53 is compact so its cooling its not as good as the G73 but then again 90oC is not that hot for a gaming laptop which is that small anyway.

    I reckon you be happy with the NC3000-U it has one large fan but runs very quietly so you get the best of both worlds, it is also elevated.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  29. delike

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    Hi guys,

    The following test is using Cooler Master U2, but I have 3 fans on it (one broke and they sent me a new pair so I use 3, dual fan connected to USB3.0; single fan connected to USB2.0)
    In sum, Cooler Master U3 (pretty much) helps GPU side not CPU.
    Here is my test... hopes my link works...
    I went to do some test with my G53SW with following conditions:


    with DVD drive no laptop cooler
    [​IMG]


    with DVD drive with laptop cooler
    [​IMG]

    Then I did continuous test and remove DVD drive, nothing change
    and remove power of laptop cooler, GPU side went up while CPU down a little
    [​IMG]

    my explanation is not using USB stuffs anymore...
     
  30. WaffleBoy

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    Well, I used U2... nothing changed on full load (but without doing nothing, I got -4c)
     
  31. delike

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    hmm interesting...
    I'm not sure my 3rd fan makes difference at the full load, but temp of GPU rise quickly after I unplug the U2 (3 fans)
    Cooler is not helping on CPU