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    Creative Software Debugging Thread

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Chastity, Jun 1, 2010.

  1. Kenny_Zero

    Kenny_Zero Notebook Consultant

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    Now that, kinda makes a LOT of sense. Will give that a shot.
     
  2. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    I've been upgrading the Realtek drivers and still can use the Creative package. My suggestion for you would be to install an earlier Realtek package that works, install Creative, then update to latest Realtek.
     
  3. Kenny_Zero

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    Which version of Realtek is the one that comes with the G73 ? If that is the realtek driver that is compatible with creative, don't i need the exact same one?
     
  4. Chastity

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    I don't really understand about this. When I did my clean install, I used the latest on the Realtek site, and then installed Creative. Worked just fine.

    What they're referring to is grab the latest Realtek Audio driver pack from Asus.
     
  5. Kenny_Zero

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    Hmmm.. I got it.. Lets see what happens. I currently run the latest drivers from the Realtek support site itself. No creative installed now. I tried re-installing today from the drivers disc. But couldn't open the control panel from the taskbar. Seems like i need to uninstall the current one I have, install the ones from the Realtek from ASUS site and then install the creative.
     
  6. DvvD

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    Creative Announces Sound Blaster X-Fi MB2 Software Suite
    Creative Technology Ltd. today announced the Sound Blaster X-Fi MB2 software suite - a powerful audio platform equipped with cutting-edge audio technologies designed to enhance ordinary PC systems limited by only basic onboard audio. The Sound Blaster X-Fi MB2 software suite builds on the success of the original Sound Blaster X-Fi MB, bringing enhancement of onboard PC audio to even greater echelons. Through THX TruStudio Pro audio technology and the latest Creative EAX Advanced HD 5.0, users get to enjoy premium audio quality, effects and features on their PC systems.

    Gamers can anticipate being blown away by the amazing realism from the unrivalled headphone surround and gaming sound enhancement technologies delivered by the Sound Blaster X-Fi MB2. Creative EAX Advanced HD 5.0 features state-of-the-art multi-environment rendering and reverb modelling, delivering an ultra-realistic and incredibly immersive 3D gaming experience for powering the next generation of cutting-edge PC games. The additional audio cues provided by EAX can also give gamers a competitive advantage in early detection of enemies.

    "We are extremely excited to see the Sound Blaster X-Fi MB2 software going into ASUS Republic of Gamers motherboards, with ASUS being the top manufacturer of motherboards in the world and constantly committed to delivering the most innovative and best performing PC solutions to enhance the gaming experience of power users. Our partnership will continue to push the boundaries of PC gaming audio, providing the much-needed realism and immersion in game-play that modern PC games demand," said Steve Erickson, Vice President and General Manager for Audio and Video at Creative.

    Creative EAX Advanced HD 5.0 allows greater detail and speed in gaming audio and adds a dedicated bass feed for 128 voices, so gaming audio becomes more cinematic. Developers can also add interactive music to games, where the music can change based on actions during game-play.

    Additional features of Creative EAX Advanced HD 5.0 include EAX Voice, EAX PurePath and EAX MacroFX. EAX Voice allows gamers to literally become part of the game by speaking and hearing their own voices with the same effects as the environment their character is in. EAX PurePath delivers the most accurate and cinematic surround sound ever experienced by allowing developers total control over Low Frequency Enhancement (LFE) and which speaker(s) gaming audio is played through, while EAX MacroFX recreates close-up audio so accurately that bullets would never have sounded more frightening as they zip past players' heads only centimetres away.
    THX TruStudio Pro provides the latest groundbreaking technologies that are products of years of collective experience and research by Creative and THX. THX TruStudio Pro creates unprecedented levels of audio realism, adds dynamics and punch to every gunshot, explosion and gaming sound; and includes stunning surround effects, producing an incredibly realistic surround sound experience even from just a pair of stereo headphones. The THX TruStudio Pro suite of technologies features THX TruStudio Pro Surround, THX TruStudio Pro Crystalizer, THX TruStudio Pro Speaker, THX TruStudio Pro Dialog Plus and THX TruStudio Pro Smart Volume.

    Other audio technologies such as EAX reverbs and a 10-band graphic equalizer allow users to enhance their music even more. These essential audio effects and controls are conveniently placed in a central and intuitive Sound Blaster Console. In addition, a suite of cool players are included to enhance the PC music listening experience, giving users full control over their music streaming and integrating seamlessly with iTunes and Windows Media libraries.

    Key Features of Sound Blaster X-Fi MB2:
    •THX TruStudio Pro audio technology creates unprecedented levels of audio realism, adds dynamics and punch to every gunshot, explosion and gaming sound; and includes stunning surround effects, producing an incredibly realistic surround sound experience even from just a pair of stereo headphones
    •Creative EAX Advanced HD 5.0 features state-of-the-art multi-environment rendering and reverb modelling, delivering an amazingly realistic and immersive 3D gaming experience
    •Creative VoiceFX technology allows users to morph their voices into other personas to help players stay in character and add flair to their online role-playing experiences
    •Creative ALchemy is a powerful tool that restores EAX effects and 3D surround audio for legacy, DirectSound 3D game titles running on Windows Vista and Windows 7, re-enabling that same great gaming experience
    •Sound Blaster X-Fi MB2 comes with native OpenAL support, ensuring compatibility with a wide range of PC games developed with OpenAL for an incredible 3D audio experience
     
  7. Chastity

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    When Asus has this available for download, let me know. ;)
     
  8. 7hief

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    ^^^agreed :d
     
  9. The Beast

    The Beast Notebook Geek

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    Here is one thing I don't get...

    When I got my G73JH-A3 I did the usual- backup the system, uninstall the bloatware, but I did not touch the drivers installed at all, so I still had the creative, the realtek, etc...

    So, I found out abotu the crash with the shipped realtek drivers, updated to 2.49 (both HDMI and HD Audio), and the Creative drivers still worked just fine...

    Now, I install a game me and the kids play, Sacred 2: Fallen Angel. Install goes well, I update it, install the add-on Blood & Ice. Run the final 2 updates and launch the game. While configured th graphics and sound I notice it has a "Creative EAX" logo on the sound panel. Now even on my sons machine, an Asus ROG Maximus III Formula, which includes thier X-Fi OEM package, which is full installed and configured, they do not have the same "EAX" logo on the config screen in the game.

    Now, I had a prolem with the ethernet port not working, so, of course, a completel reinsall of the factory image was the first course of action. It went fine, didn't fix the port, so I had to open the laptop and push on the cables for the ethernet and lo-wnad-behold the port now works...

    Well, upon reinstalling everything I find Sacred 2 won't run now and crashes. Inloking into it I had to add the line "-skip openal" to the shortcut so it skips the openal check. Now, because of that, there is no "EAX" logo in the game anymore.

    I know it sounds trivial, but is Creative THAT MUCH of a bunch of moronic a-holes that they can't even get thier software to configure for games, which is the ONLY reason you would use thier software in the first place!?!?!?

    I just don't understand why it would on the first config, but on a reimage it would not??? I made sure I did the exact same steps in configuring it after the reimage.
     
  10. Chastity

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    You need to run ALchemy to setup for EAX support for each game, if it uses it.
     
  11. The Beast

    The Beast Notebook Geek

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    Did that... no such luck...

    Looks like there is a "perfect storm" needed to get the Creative stuff to install and work properly. If I knew what was missing where, or the "magic sequence" I would do it... :(
     
  12. Chastity

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    Install an older Realtek package, stock or otherwise. Install Creative. Uninstall old Realtek. Install Latest Realtek . Run Alchemy to install to game dirs. done. profit!
     
  13. 7hief

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    Chastity, do you have an .exe of the creative software zipped? I'm @ work w/out the driver cd and I wanna give this another go.
     
  14. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    Not offhand, but my 3rd sig has the driver cd on it.
     
  15. 7hief

    7hief Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nvm, gg Asus release of the original (I assume) on their page.

    ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Support-
     
  16. Chastity

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    WOW, Asus put the Creative MB installer on their site?!
     
  17. Pandages

    Pandages Notebook Guru

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    I was thinking the same thing. I'm happy to see it but it seems to be the same version that came on the CD. We really need some bugfixes from creative.
     
  18. Chastity

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    Slow ASUS is slow.
     
  19. praetorianx

    praetorianx Notebook Evangelist

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    there is a new set of Creative Audigy Driver on Asus site. checking it out right now
     
  20. Mangojoyride

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    so i installed the newest realtech drivers and now two "speakers" show up at the sound control panel

    did i mess something up?
     
  21. praetorianx

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    it's fine, Creative drivers takes over everything
     
  22. premudriy

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    I only see a link to version 1.0. Would you, please, share a link to the new one?
     
  23. praetorianx

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    well....it was posted on August 3rd... not new?
     
  24. Chastity

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    No, and feedback on it is that it may not install properly. Apparently it may not detect the hardware properly. Stick to the version on the Driver CD. And no, it's not new. It's still 1.0
     
  25. kagedmaniak

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    Hm, so I uninstalled everything creative a few weeks ago because it was giving me crashes with bass boost, but it sounded really nice. So I wanted to try it again with updating realtek drivers after, but I went to download the Creative drivers on Asus's site - but its giving me an error - "setup is unable to detect a supported product on your system" :(. Any solutions?
     
  26. praetorianx

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    ccleaner,install Realtek first,then Creative
     
  27. Topper_

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    Hi,

    After some tests, the SB Audigy Advanced MB (from asus website download vAudio_WIN7_6015978) don't want to install because it can't detect apropriate hardware... for an mysterious reason.

    So, if it can help how i have proceed to make it worked :
    1) install the SB Audigy Advanced MB from the CD recovery or from the .iso mounted by an virtual drive and reboot (found somewhere i don't remember...) DRIVER_CD_WIN7_10_AsusG73JH.iso
    2) reinstall the driver from the same CD (in /software/audio/realtek/ALC269/...) reboot again ...
    3) install the fix (only the fix provide by Daniel_K (SBA_ADVMB_W7UPD)
    4) reboot and it's finished.

    I have noticed an impressive improvement quality of the stock speaker.

    For info, i have activated :
    -bass boost
    -CMSS-3D

    No freez with steam yet ... so wish me luck ! :)


    According to me, you should try if you use the internal speaker, if not leave it with the realtek driver (from the realtek website).

    Regards,

    T
     
  28. <coolAlias>

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    Thanks Chastity! Was having the problem with Steam locking up my computer - enabled CMSS-3D and Graphic EQ now all is well!
     
  29. CrappyAlloy

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    As in the computer may not recognize the built in microphone? Im having problems with mine not working now, but if i plug in a mic its fine
     
  30. mcheddadi

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    looks like I'm still the only one that managed to get everything working with the better version of the creative suite.

    it's a directx compability issue with the creative drivers. you just need to make your direct X sound dll files "READ-ONLY" after making everything work to ensure that it never gets upgraded with newer ones that make ease of access crash and pc freeze etc...

    other than this issue and the fan noise issue (that i've fixed by opening the laptop up and replacing a piece of black tape that was the culprit), pc is great.

    still kinda disappointing to have to fix so much stuff ...
     
  31. Chastity

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    You shouldn't have to do that with the X-Fi MB 1.1 package.

    1) Install your stock Realtek drivers
    2) Install Creative X-Fi MB 1.1
    3) Run patcher (after removing all old license files)
    4) Update to current Realtek drivers
    5) ???
    6) PROFIT!!
     
  32. NBRUser0159099

    NBRUser0159099 Notebook Deity

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    just a quick question, does the problems (freezing/instability) associated with the creative software apply to only the G73JH or does it affect all G-series machines? Particular want to know if it affects the G53SW version, because I would want all those affects it offers..
     
  33. Chastity

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    The G53SW uses the THX Notebook software instead of the Audigy MB stuff.
     
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