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    Did I just buy the wrong G53 ?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Buzaow, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Buzaow

    Buzaow Notebook Enthusiast

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    I ordered a G53sx yesterday. This morning I stumbled on a thread here about the gpu. The GTX 560m in the G53sx is inferior to the GTX 460m in the G53sw.
    Now I'm wondering if the difference is consequential. Does the 460m perform substantially better than the 560m in intensive games like the Witcher 2 etc ?
    I have 7 days to make a decision. I can send back my G53sx with 3 year warranty and get for the same price a G53sw with 2 year warranty.
    Here are the specs of both machines :

    the G53sx I ordered :

    i7-2630QM (2,0 GHz / 2,9 GHz Turbo)
    15,6" Full HD LED - Résolution de 1920 x 1080 pixels -
    4096 Mo ram
    750 Go - hard drive
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 2 Go GDDR5 dédiés
    DVD drive

    the G53sw I can swap it in for :

    i7 2630QM ( same as G53sx )
    15,6" Full HD LED - Résolution de 1920 x 1080 pixels ( same as G53sx)
    8192 Mo ram
    Total hard drive space 1000 Go
    Type SSD / SATA
    Model SSD Seagate Momentus XT
    HDD (trs/min) 7200
    nVidia GeForce™ GTX 460M 1536 Mo
    Blu Ray drive

    I knew of both these models before placing my order and chose the G53sx for its graphic, thinking it was the best, and knowing I could always upgrade my ram etc.
    I need your advice. What should I do ? Keep the sx or go with the sw ?
    Thanks for your help.
     
  2. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Yes the SW performs noticeably better at high res due to an increased memory bandwidth (128bit vs 192bit) and an increased ROP count which really makes a difference.
    The crippled gtx560m is slightly worse, with a good overclock it can reach default gtx460m performance; however gtx460m usually OCs stable to 800/1600/1600 which basically triplicate the raw power compared to an oced gtx560m crippled.
    At this point gtx560m "crippled" is not better than a gt555m, that would be a reasonable comparative.
    I think the card itself is fine for 720/768p gaming but it really struggles at 1080p when compared to a full gtx460m with same game/details/resolution.

    So if you want a quick advice, get rid of the Sx otherwise in the future you'll experience a huge bottleneck faster and harder than a full gtx460m that will cause a bottleneck as well, but not that huge.
     
  3. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    The G53SW will beat the G53SX for GPU performance. CPU's are the same, the HDD is better in the SW along with more RAM however you sacrifice a years warranty.

    Both good deals but depending on what you are buying the laptop for which is probably to game on and for it to outlive the warranty you want the better GPU. Which is the SW the 128bit will not get anywhere near the Bandwidth the 192bit can produce even when overclocked it is 20gb/s or more behind it, and will also fall behind in the Pixel/Texture fillrates as well.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  4. Dual_Everything

    Dual_Everything Notebook Guru

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    Do all g53sx laptops have a crippled 560M or just the best buy models?
     
  5. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    All. Only g74 does have both afaik.
     
  6. sarge_

    sarge_ Notebook Deity

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    Go with the SW, of course.
     
  7. Support.4@XOTIC PC

    Support.4@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    ASUS has not released a G53SX model with anything but the 128 bit GPU.
     
  8. luckysword

    luckysword Notebook Consultant

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    G53SW for sure ,,,
     
  9. Chastity

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    or get a G74SX with the 192-bit GPU and some real nice OC-ability
     
  10. Buzaow

    Buzaow Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for all the great advice. I sent back my G53sx ( heartbreaking experience : opened the box, saw how awesome it looked and shipped it straight back ) and am waiting for my refund. I thought about swapping it in for a G53sw but the 460m thing bugs me, I want my money to get me the latest tech.
    As much as I like the design and build quality of the asus, I think I'm going to go with the MSI 683. It's not much of a looker but the fully powered 560m is a big draw. I might even splurge for a 570m. Not sure if the upgrade is worth 150euros though
     
  11. DCx

    DCx Banned!

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    That's a terrible attitude. I want my money to get me the *best* tech, whether current or not.
     
  12. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Very true, just take a look at the 8800m GTX SLI from 2007 it is still owning a lot of the newer tech put into new models and its running on GDDR3.
     
  13. Evanescent

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    Just a side note to the OP.

    latest technology != best technology
     
  14. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    lol did we not just say that this was not the case? The latest technology from best buy is being beaten by technology from years ago.

    The G73SW-A1 (OLD) will beat the G74SX-BBK7 (NEW) hands down.

    In the OP's case the G53SW (OLD) will beat the G53SX (NEW).
     
  15. luckysword

    luckysword Notebook Consultant

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    can be thought but should be discussed too :)

    it is actually like 60 GB PS3 which has been collected by Sony itself from the market :) if you can find just purchase it and keep it :) Do you know why because it was so strong and only the version which can play PS2 game at the same time which have also different card reader and any other slots :) So even now many other models on the market but 3 years old one still better than them ,,,

    I think main issue in some period makers came to the market with different product for a while but not long !!! you know first G53 and 73 has many problem but later on which are labelled as New Version was like apologise and they are really so strong as structure many of us using GPU " GTX 460M " over 800 core clock which is better than 560M which is new on the market :) means can be thought but should be discussed too,,,
     
  16. Kingpinzero

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    Seems that theres a common missed point here: gtx560 is an overclocked gtx460m.
    Beside the newer power consumption reduced by the newer GF114 core, nothing changed.
    Yeah its higher clocked, thus it overclocks better, but the bottom line is still the fact that is not a new technology.

    Gtx570m is an overclocked gtx470m, so goes on.