Do I really need 16GB of RAM?

Hi guys,
My G53SX has come with 8GB RAM. I had another spare of 8GB (4GBX2), but there CAS Latency is less than the default one. WEI, 3DMark06 point decreased if these RAMs are inserted. . So I looked for one in ebay with same latency. My question is.. will the computer performance or gaming performanced be increased if I insert another 8GB with same specification of RAM? I don't nind to pay another £35 if the performance increased.

 

do you know if you have 4 ram slots you can upgrade your ram up to 32GB it can be 1866 or 1333 or 16XX .
If more ram with more mhz then performance will increase for sure but 8gb is more than enough for gaming.

 

If you have to ask, the answer is usually no.

Unless you actually use more than 8GB (running computations, VMs, etc), adding more RAM won't speed anything up. It's an issue of capacity, not speed.

 

You will never need more than 8GB of RAM if you are gaming.

 

How about 4GB?

 

4GB is kinda cutting it close these days, if you have nothing but the game opened sure, but most people i know have their web browser, voip client and media player running when they game and you can easily hit over 4GB with those.

 

Thanks a lot guys. I appreciate the replies and am not gonna bother to buy anymore RAM, may be will try to upgrade the CPU or GPU.

 

You're not gonna be able to upgrade the graphics, so a CPU upgrade is the only thing that this point that will possibly improve your gaming performance.

But if you are gonna use the laptop as a mobile workstation for doing production-level 3D graphics and such, get as much RAM as you want.

 

One thing need to know...will this machine support higher bus speed which is 1600MHz DDR3?

 

yes it will.

 

I have 16gb of RAM its worth having the extra leg room . More leg room = more projects to get into.

 

I run several virtual machines so I use lots of RAM throughout a workday. usually I'm only running one VM so I use about 7.9GB all day long. Without running a VM, I sit around 3 to 4GB. I've never seen mine over 4GB without firing up a virtual machine. I would imagine things like Photoshop would access a lot of that RAM if you use that program. For gaming and regular use I don't think machines ever use more than four. One nice thing about having lots of RAM is that my machine never uses the page file. It always sits at 0MB of usage. This is very good in my case because I have an SSD and you don't want Windows wearing out your expensive drive paging things in and out of RAM.

 

are you sure about that? can you give me any link where it says it will? did you try yourself?

 

you dont have to worry sandy bridge processors support 1600 and 1866 rams ,
and you can expand it till 32gb,
but you cant if you have an g73jh

 

I'm still waiting for the benchmarks that show improvements with 8 GB over 4 GB. The most memory hog games I've come across weigh in at under 2 GB, which leaves plenty of memory for other applications like VOIP, OS processes, steam, chat clients, a web browser, and a media player, with plenty of room to spare.

The main attractor for 8 GB over 4 GB imo is the marginal cost difference, due to the fact that memory prices keep dropping. I don't believe there are any legitimate performance implications under normal use.

Of course, you can contrive a use case for anything. Simply open chrome and start opening content heavy tabs until you hit a few GB. Then run your game. You won't get better performance by having 8 GB when playing games under normal conditions, but it would prevent your system from churning to a halt in this contrived condition.

 

I think the best solution for RAM upgrade at the moment is Kingston HyperX 1866Mhz PnP for laptops 8Gb kit.

It will pretty much max out the potential influence RAM could have on games.
Is it worth the investment over 1333Mhz RAM remains a personal opinion anyway.

 

Is there no one who upgraded their G53 RAM 1333 to 1600 or over? Does the WEI score increased? Mine is at the moment 7.6 with 1333.

 

With more RAM, you can start playing with ramdisk. Say reserve 8GB ramdisk and you can load your game on ramdisk huh. Also, can dump all the rar cache/ internet cache etc there.

 

6-8GB RAM is enough for games, 16GB is only useful if you run server applications or virtual machines on your current OS. Most of the modern games use only 2-3GB average, in extreme cases maybe 4GB. So as long as you have more than 4GB RAM you won't feel any difference at all.

 

I know that the Kingston 1866Mhz PnP RAM has 7.9 WEI score.

But people were writing for games the difference is mostly with a bit increased "lowest fps". Maximum fps seems to not be affected. So basically average fps is increased a bit thanks to increased lower fps.

 

If you all remember Chastity did some testing with the 1866Mhz RAM and it yielded better benchmark results but its overall ability was hampered by the fact the CPU cannot make use of speeds above 1333mhz.

My setup makes use of 1600mhz because of the 2760QM and my WEI Score hits 7.8 for the RAM because of the HyperX so if it was being utilised I could see the 1866Mhz easily hitting 7.9.

By the way you dont need 16GB of RAM unless you intend to work it with some serious graphic designing for instance. But in general having 16GB RAM does make you more awesome. True Story.

 

This is only partially true...it all depends what kind of processor you have. ome do not support the higher speed ram.

 

I'm pretty sure the 1866Mhz Plug and Play memory by Kingston works in any SB core i7. Unless Chastity changed out the core i7 2630qm here http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?2503-Kingston-HyperX-1866-PnP-SODIMM-Memory for a different kind of 2630qm

PS: First gen of Core i7 mobile CPUs seem to not support memory over 1333Mhz

 

Yep it works fine and as you can see from her results there is a slight gain in overall performance but the CPU (2630QM) is still limited to 1333mhz.

See here.

The refresh of the SB like mine can handle upto 1600mhz but will not be able to make use of speeds faster than that. At least going by the theory of what it says on the tin.

 

I was questioned by my friends for upgrading RAM on my laptop to 14GB and just recently it happens that none of them have access to a computer with enough RAM to run a simulation using Autodesk Simulation CFD 2012. While running the software my RAM usage would sometimes exceed 13GB, so for me it definitely was a good buy and the increased 1333 speed is also an advantage. For gaming it made no difference, but if you do anything intensive then it is worth the investment. Now the only problem is that I'm running their simulation too.

 

Really!!!! Can i not upgrade the GPU? i thought this SB Core i7 would support any upgraded GPU. I am stuck here with 128bit..which is why i am getting (possibly) low banchmark 3dmark06 point. i really was wishing to increase this point to it's highest as i have seen it to notebookchecker website before buying this giant.

 

you can upgrade gpu to gtx 580 .

 

The G53SX does have MXM 3.0 unlike its counterpart G74.

Whether you can upgrade it is yet to be seen at least by my eyes and if anything to go by is the previous Nvidia GPU's that Asus have implemented the answer is no. The 560M for a mid range mid sized laptop even at 128bit is not a bad card so do not feel that it is, remember that mobile cards are not made for the top of the top outputs at 1080p and even with my 6990M I have to settle for slightly lower settings than ultra if I want to game comfortably with some of the intensive games. SLI is really the only real way to produce results of that of a high end desktop and it comes with a price tag and a lot of problems.

Take note as well about upgrading the G7X models by having a look at the 6970M in a G73 post because the work that goes into accomplishing such a feat is huge. If it is not a simple upgrade you would be better off upgrading the laptop when the time comes than spending out a lot of money to trial and error.

 

yo your correct, no use of upgrading because ivy bridge is on its way, and up to now 3x users have burned the hd 6970m cards in G73Jh , 350$ is burned in air , Its better if you buy a upgraded laptop without buying one for lower price and trying to upgrade, its useless . use the upgrading money to buy upgraded laptop so you can survive witout problems.
Now some Asus users are moving to diffrent brands. count me in.
im going to move to clevo , I think those are realy awsome.
what do think asus compared to clevo .yiddo , compare your own g73 with p170hm.

 

I can give a quite unbiased view actually

Clevo is excellent and a great choice if you want to enjoy gaming at much higher performance than Asus its build quality and functionality is outstanding and it also has upgradeability options because I will probably bypass the Ivy initial release and just pick up a 7 series card and a 2960XM ES when I need to.

But is it better than Asus? IMO sadly no, maybe I enjoy the problems Asus bring or maybe it is the certain bit of style and class that comes with their laptops but I love em just as I do the community.

I would say if you are looking to pick up something with more power while Asus are beginning to look at moving upto the 670M then it is a good time to do so and you should look at considering a Clevo. If Asus do pull their finger out and move upto the high end graphical regions while keeping the style then I will return. In my case I did a 12 month finance deal and then paying off the remainder at the end of the 12 months so I pay no interest and I will then sell the laptop and consider my options.

My review is here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/642685-vortex-ii-uk-built-pc-specialist.html

The 2760QM paired with a 6990M is a bombshell and worth going for and in your case you may never look back I am certainly enjoying it but a laptop is more than that to me I like a challenge

 

ooo that's awsommmmeee,
Asus has made desktop boards to do what ever they need but in the laptop wise why they have suspended the user to not giving an chance to upgrade as they are G series laptop , until noe I dunno why.

Clevo rocks man , I should go with clevo , and do you know what clevo laptops support dual vga?
Thanks for info,
Nice review , + 1 rep but its allowing me to give , its says spread your reputating before giving it to yiddo again. may be il try to add later.

 

You need to look into the bulkier version to get the 2xGPU setup and something like the 18 inch P180HM which is a beast, as I am in the UK our models are going to be different, make a post on the Clevo section asking what you are looking for and I am sure they will be able to help.

The 170HM or Vortex II that I have is no bigger than my G73 which is why I went for it. It can only hold one GPU either the 6990 or 580 but still houses 16GB RAM and 2HDD bays + a ton of input and outputs.

I put some pics in my review I will update it with more when I get a chance.

 

yes I saw all the pictures , its looks slimmer than g73 ,
Il ask for some help in Clevo section. anyways thanks for the info.

 

I have found this RAM
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x4GB) Kit 1866MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL11 204-pin Unbuffered in ebay, price would be around 75 pounds including delivery. would it be worth enough to get this RAM module replaced with my original one which is 1333mHz with. why i am thinking to upgrade RAM or GPU is because my favourite game NFS-THE RUN gets frozen sometimes in the middle of the run. it's sooo shocking...i haven't had any problem with my previous machine where GPU was just nVIDIA GT 230M. I spent almost 1000pounds and ended up with some kind of problematic machine. i wish if i could sell it and go for different model, but here in the UK we haven't got many options.

 

It will make a big diffrent in fps , you will get more fps but not that much
, but to play nfs run 8gb is enough,
its worth for price, you could even use it in any other laptop if you upgrade.

 

Today...i have found another deal on ebay...12gb of 1600mHz for £67. Other one was 8GB of 1866mGh for £70.
So guys, please give me some suggestions whether i should upgrade my default 8GB of 1333mhz to 1st one or the 2nd one. Btw, i don't do any high intensive work...just sometimes run adobe photoshop and now thinking to run XP on vartually. Other than this i play NFS-THE RUN. Recently my game started freezing. I wanna play it flawlessly with the highest setup.
You can see my machine spec on my signature. It has got 4 RAM slot and 2 HD bay. I have torn it apart and checked it.

 

buy 12gb if your run virtual xp and set 2 gb for xp . But the 8gb is pretty good because its 1866Mhz. Or you have to change your vga to play all games at ultra.

 

Faster RAM might give you better minimum fps, but that's about it. If you have a stuttering problem in a game, it is most likely a software issue rather than a hardware one.

 

hahaha, now thats the problem, I dont think an G53 can run that game on ultra , try changing to high or medium

 

It can run well and it should. What do you think GTX 560M GPU! Even by default setting texture quality was set as ultra..and rest of the setting was in high. Just in certain point (when my position was 28th in the run) i have experienced game to be frozen. Also few more times when i was in 20th...i think stupid KIS2012 causing it. I played disabling it and didn't freeze though it was for 5mnts. But in normal circumastançes it would have frozen within 5minutes.

 

Well then, looks like you found your culprit, try a longer session with KIS disabled and see what ensues.

 

right now it was again frozen....i am gonna disable KIS2012 and will be played until its got frozen. by the way guy, what about my RAM suggestion? shall i go for 1600mhz or 1866mhz. please check my post.

 

Oh no..again frozen.....i don't know what's wrong with my GPU or with the game itself. always when i am in 29th it gets stuck (frozen) even with the recommended settings.