Final Fantasy XIV

Hey guys, fairly new to the forums. I recently purchased the G73A1 laptop and was wondering if it could run FFXIV. I know without updating to the 10.8 drivers it is quite impossible, but if a solution could be found before the launch date of the game, would the G73JH machine be able to actually run the game for a pleasant experience? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic as I am an avid final fantasy fan, thanks!

 

did you try 10.8 drivers yet? some people are using them with no problems.

Im using a driver right before that one but will be updating to 10.8 next time I find some bordom set in and need something to do.

 

I'm playing FF XIV no problem with the following

Bios 209 / stock vbios
Catalyst 10.8
O/C 705/1100 with amd gpu clock tool

 

No lag problems or frame problems? Decent play?

 

Running Standard textures, low filtering, 2X AA, Standard shadows, NO AO no Depth. @1080p Fullscreen you will get around 10-25 FPS is busy areas.10-50+ people. Out in the field by yourself with those settings its a steady 30+ fps 40+ at times. Combat solo is about 30 fps. Found a cave/dungeon get 60 fps steady in there.

I play with a controller so UI lag isn't a problem, though with their software mouse could be a problem when lower then 30fps.

FF is a funny game even with low frame rate it still runs and feels smooth, compared to other games, I think mainly because the game achieves a steady low framerate and doesn't dip, stutter or spike low. If anyone is considering play FFXIV I would only recommend a 5780m or GTX460 because this game is so hardware demanding.

 

aren't cities going to be really choppy then? And I wonder if JinKensai is running it on higher graphics. I heard some people were running it on higher graphic settings with not many problems.

 

Seriously this game is weird so changed all my settings from that to Highest Shadows, High Texture, Highest Filtering, 2x AA, and gained 10fps, so out solo i am now running 40 fps~ and by the crystal hub I was getting 15-20 fps steady.

 

hahahaha nice.

 

How are your frams or "lag" in cities? Decent?

 

Framerate in Gridana is all over the place because of hubs of people, 15-35fps. Server lag goes from green to yellow. They still need to optimized the graphics settings and server lag will be optimized over time. I do find myself once and awhile getting stutter lag in Gridana but that is probably due to server lag/load.

Highest settings, no ao, no depth, 2x AA.

 

Same settings as Xelloss with no issues. Played for about 5 hours yesterday with no GSOD, but my machine doesn't seem to be too GSOD prone to begin with. And I do use DoF with the same fps as him.

Hah, XIV is probably the only game I like DoF in, it kicks in far enough away that it enhances the look of the game, although it might not look realistic.

What server are you on, Xelloss? Playing in Ul'Dah on Lindblum here.

 

If high end PC hardware struggles like this, how bad will they have to cripple the PS3 graphics?

 

Well, keep in mind that the medium-low settings still look beautiful, especially for MMO standards.

 

FFXIV will run on stock drivers and up. During Beta 2 I could only play with stock drivers, everything else crashed or GSOD. Since then, I've had it running steady on 10.6, 10.7a and 10.8. G73 will play FFXIV quite well, you don't have anything to worry about.

 

Hey toxic, the link you gave me last night didn't give me the open beta option. Not too worried though just got the key this morning. Ran ffxiv on my g73 and it looks great heating wasn't a problem maxed out at most 80c but I was in the city. I am on Selbina server if your interested.

 

Strange, I was logging in at that link while I was making the post, seemed to work fine. Regardless, you got your key so its all good.

I'm on Gyasahl with some friends. Not really playing right now because I run hot and my ICD7 hasn't come yet (should have been here today, now I have to wait until Tuesday QQ).

 

Do you guys think the 5870 or 460m would run FF14 better? I know the 460m isn't really out yet but I'm having a hard time choosing the JH and JW for this game specifically

 

SE is in bed with Nvidia, so it might be more optimized for Nvidia cards. Never know though.

 

Damn, i hope so, the game lags like crazy for me when i use Ambien Oclussion and Depth of field, they gotta get that fixed asap. I can live with the bad UI, but laggy graphics kill a game for me. Especially when they don't justify the performance. It should not lag this way.

 

I know people always find it easier to blame hardware, AMD or Nvidia. The reality is, it's Square Enix that is to blame and should blame them.

 

^ agree with ziddy...

btw my gpu usage ingame is only 40-60% that happening with everyone?

 

How much is your score with 5870M? On high settings, 1920x1080 I get 2025 on my G73. (Cat 10.8)

 

I am pretty sure SE is still trying to optimize things for the game. Using the new vbios and repasting, I didn't have too many issues running at 720p. I rather be in windowed mode so i can look at the web anyways. I did 1080p fullscreen and it was more laggy and other players seems to blink across the screen. Maybe they will provide an option to limit the amount of stuff displayed like they do in ffxi.

 

Ambient occlusion really kicks the games performance in the face on this laptop. The game looks really really good without it and runs a LOT better....

 

Ah, just when I wan't to try this out, they close the applications for the open beta

 

They are releasing the keys in limited numbers. Probably should check again later on tonight.

 

It's been up and down- keep trying. I got in yesterday and downloaded the ptaches and client via torrents. Logged in but that's about it thus far- the controls are completely alien to me.

 

I managed to sneak in a beta key and acct yesterday.

 

i too got mine yesterday . AT first try same error message appear but after 15min i tried again website was working so i got my key . downloading it using torrent right now

 

When using the same setting as you i get 2063. No overclock but i do use Genetix v3.95 custom drivers based on 10.7a.

 

I finally got done downloading the beta client. I recently updated my driver to 10.8 and that is the only change i made to my machine. I needed to change the GPU clocks to 705/1100 to run the benchmark without BSOD, but i was able to play beta for a couple of hours on stock clocks without getting any BSOD...

 

Have you updated to this yet? I would so you don't have to worry about crashing anymore.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/515309-how-fix-your-gsod-blues.html

 

I finally got into the game. I get 18-30 FPS while playing at highest settings (no multisampling) 1920x1080. Btw, what DirectX is this game using?

 

The game is using DirectX 9.

 

Only DirectX 9? After seeing how high system requirement it has I was expecting at least DX10

 

Minimum System Requirements
Operating System: Windows XP/Vista/7.
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz or AMD Athlon X2 2GHz.
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 512MB or ATI Radeon HD 2900 512MB and DirectX 9.
Memory: 2GB of RAM.
Disk Space: 15GB.

Recommended System Requirements
Operating System: Windows 7 32-bit/64-bit.
Processor: Intel Core i7 2.66GHz or higher. *
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 or better with VRAM 768MB or more and DirectX 9. **
Memory: 4GB of RAM.
Disk Space: 15GB.

The minimum isn't that high. I have that in my consumer grade, casual notebook, that I got just over a year ago. The reason it requires the higher end hardware for maximum settings is because the system for the game has yet to be optimized and it contains the detail it does using only the features of DX9. The game still looks pretty awesome at the lowest possible graphic settings.

 

I heard they want to update to Directx 11 when cards are more common and when its thought worthy.

 

Speculation at best. If you consider that SE never did any significant upgrades to FFXI over 8 years, all because of the PS2, it would be hard to think that they'd be willing to do it now, especially knowing that they are releasing it on the PS3 (which is obviously not upgradeable).

As it stands, the minimum requirements for this game still allow it to run very well. I've played it at max resolution and in lower res just to see, and it still looks pretty good.

 

The fact the PS3 already doesn't have enough memory to handle the game in it current state really says something about a future upgrade to DX11. It likely won't happen.

 

Toxic, what fps were you getting with your settings?

For a dx9 game, it is poorly optimized and runs like crap on a powerhorse like g73(personal opinion). Getting 30 fps at best with half the options turned off isn't that great even at max res.

 

seems like its in the same boat as Crysis, because this game looks fantastic for DX9 but its still straining higher end systems. Can we expect the optimization to be improved over time?

 

In FFXI they capped the FPS to 30. I am not sure if they are doing the same in FFXIV though it wouldn't suprise me. I have not heard if people has gotten more or do I know how to check for the FPS myself on it.

 

I've seen people post FPS in the 35+ range so I doubt there is a cap

 

Don't forget, that they recommend these systems for 1280x720!

 

FPS has been capped off and on in FFXIV. Haven't watched my framerates, but generally it doesn't dip too low. I'm also not really playing right now because my computer overheats easily (waiting for paste to get here, should be Tuesday).

The big thing to remember is that the game still isn't fully optimized. It may run better on Nvidia systems (because SE and Nvidia have a thing for each other), but this is still a beta.

 

from what I've seen on other forums Nvidia cards are having just as much trouble as ATI cards. Hopefully it becomes full optimized quick so early subscribers aren't discouraged, thus killing the games population

 

How much would an 840QM improve performance over the 720QM in FFXIV?

would it be noticeably smoother compared to what people are reporting in-game? the reason I ask is because I am thinking that FFXIV is similiar to GTA4 in that it is seriously demanding on the CPU.

 

Personally, I don't think FFXIV is pegging the CPU. Having watched my utilization while playing the game on both my G73JH and on my desktop, I'm pretty sure the GPU is the limiting factor.

 

There has been a bit of tossup about whether or not CPU affect FFXIV. The general consensus, at least with the benchmark, was that in 1080p, it was much more centered on the video card, while under 720p, it was much more CPU centric. Whether or not this is true for the actual game, I'm not sure, but its something to consider.