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    Final Fantasy XIV Performance

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by tempuuura, Sep 26, 2010.

  1. tempuuura

    tempuuura Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, just wondering to whoever plays FFXIV how is the game performing for you? Surprisingly, I only updated the BIOS and graphics drivers without updating the vBIOS and succesfully playing without any GSOD's. My only problem is that once in game, it gets kind of stuttery everywhere and the overall experience isn't what I expected it to be on this type of machine.

    My Specs are

    Full Screen
    1920x1080
    No AA
    Buffer Size : Resolution
    Shadow Detail : High
    Ambient Occlusion: Off
    DOF: Off
    Texture quality: High
    Texture Filtering : High

    Can anyone post up their config specs and describe your overall gameplay? Thanks!
     
  2. alladintherogue

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    ...couldn't you have posted this in your previously created FFXIV thread ? just curious
     
  3. Hedonist

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    I updated my vBios for me to use updated catalyst drivers.
     
  4. tempuuura

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    Nobody has any post regarding performance in the game?
     
  5. Hedonist

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    It's on the other thread I think. They tried udpated bios, vbios, and 10.8 on FFIV and it runs smoothly even on furmark. Why don't you update your vbios as well? It might help you a lot.
     
  6. Krupp

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    I'm lost on this, I'm still getting the GSOD although I have done the 93vbios fix on the solution thread, installed ATI 10.8, and I'm on bios 211. I'm on a G73jh-b1

    When I play this game it GSODs after a little while. Is there another vbios I'm unaware of?
     
  7. Hedonist

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    Wah even on B1 models there are still a GSOD issues? >_<
     
  8. Krupp

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    Yeah :(. Had just bought this laptop 2 days ago for this game to find out it has this major issue with it. Bummer. Hopefully a solution will be found.
     
  9. ziddy123

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    Solution already found. Something else is the problem. They didn't change the GPU...

    Whatever, FF XIV is garbage anyhow. Yay lets play an MMORPG for PS3 on PC, awesome idea...
     
  10. Krupp

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    Really? Can you point me in the right direction to this fix if you don't mind? Thanks!
     
  11. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    GSOD was already fixed! It's the vBios. The only thing different between a B1 and A1 is the HDD and i7...

    If that doesn't work, blame Square Enix for making possibly the worst MMORPG released in the past decade.
    - Not occur to you maybe it's not ATi/Asus fault on this one? Maybe FF XIV is complete garbage? Maybe Square Enix is the pawn of Sony? Maybe Square Enix doesn't care if it doesn't run right on PC?

    If all else, fails, just RMA it then. Complaining in multiple threads won't fix it. The fix is the vBios, there is nothing else. And likely since it has worked for 99.99% of users, they won't be releasing anything else. As far as Asus is concerned, this problem is solved.
     
  12. Krupp

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    I was a bit confused by your "change GPU" comment and I was thinking a fix was found related to that. I do agree a lot is wrong with the game. I wasn't implying the blame is on Asus whatsoever, sorry if you read it that way. Thanks for your help anyways!
     
  13. Krupp

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    I had TechPowerUp GPU Z while playing 14. It ranged from about 68-70 Celsius. Also my clock is at 405/1000 do you think that could be making an issue? I read somewhere that the standard is 700/1000? I will try my temps with Furmark. Thanks for helping me out!
     
  14. JoeWhee

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    You're GPU should clock up to 700/1000 when you're playing, but 405 when your not. Or at least mine does.
     
  15. Krupp

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    Mine didn't change to 700 during the Furmark and it ended up having a GSOD during the benchmark test of the Furmark o.o;. The temperature remained the same at about 70 Celsius. Could the clock be the issue?

    Just tried it again and it did change to 700.. and it did flicker this this time around and I ended up canceling it. I'm not sure what the issue is now.
     
  16. Lozz

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    a 6month ps3 release after a PC release makes it a PS3 release? What?
     
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    Try disabling PowerPlay in CCC, and then try playing the game again. Let us know if she GSOD's again.
     
  18. cohowap

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    I run the game absolutly fine, here's what I have.

    Fresh install Win 7 (no asus crap, no extra garbage)
    ICD7 pasted CPU/GPU
    ATI 10.8 drivers
    vBios with OD posted by Chasity on Gary's post.
    Mainboard Bios 211

    PowerPlay is disabled.

    If you're playing wirelessly, I also suggest replacing the Atheros card with an Intel card, that's my other mod.

    I have my GPU OC'ed to 800/1100 (I think, posting from work but it is oc'd a little)

    After hours of playing, my GPU never passes 65C.

    Another trick I want to try, but not sure if I can is move physx processing to the CPU instead of the GPU. I heard this boosts the games performance 20%ish, not sure if it does on these laptops though.
     
  19. JoeWhee

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    What Chastity said. Disable Power play so your GPU doesn't down clock. I left my game up all night Saturday night (fell asleep) so it probably ran for a good 16 hours straight and my temps never got above 80C and it was still running smooth as a button when I got back to it.
     
  20. MNDZA

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    It won't be out on the PS3 for a while. Probably because they're trying to get it to work on a less powerful machine so I don't consider it a PS3 game.

    It runs great for me with stock vbios and 10.8. Maybe I got lucky.
     
  21. Krupp

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    Hello all,

    Tried disabling powerplay and this time I got a white screen crash testing it with ATI tool. :( After shutting off the laptop it too a few tries of shutting it off and on for the Asus logo to show up when starting up, otherwise it would just stay on a black screen. Now I'm really lost on what this cause could be.. o.o;

    Thanks for all your help and input by the way, really appreciate it!
     
  22. JoeWhee

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    Sorry, refresh my memory? You're on 211/new vBIOS/10.8 right?

    EDIT: Saw in another post where you said you had. Have you done a fresh Win 7 install?
     
  23. Krupp

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    I have not done a fresh Win 7 install. I had just bought this laptop last Friday.

    I'm on 211/new vbios/10.8, correct.
     
  24. JoeWhee

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    I'm not sure. I've also only owned the laptop a week. I did the 211/vBIOS/10.8 update and since FFXIV has been working perfectly for me. Hopefully someone else can help you with whats going on.
     
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    What settings did you set the clocks to??
     
  26. Krupp

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    The clock is set at 405/1000 and it goes to 700/1000 when a game is started. I'm using gpu-z to track it and the temperature. Usually 68-73 during a game.
     
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    i was monitoring CPU performance while playing the game, I have all setting on high , I dropped the res too 900p because menus were too small to read on my 52 inch tv, and im positive its the game. The gameplay is smooth no stuttering, but menus are laggy and so is the cursor. Im pretty sure this is game lag or something.
     
  28. JoeWhee

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    Cursor lag means you probably dont have hardware mouse checked in the config. I don't use my mouse to play but when I do use it its very smooth. Im talking official release tho. There was no hardware mouse support in Open Beta.
     
  29. Lozz

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    this. soooooooo glad they listened for once. :D
     
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    OOO MAN, are you serious, thats my biggest gripe right now with the game, everything else runs silky smooth, gonna go home and try this out thanks :). My mouse is usb btw. But I totally forgot to say this games a pretty big hog on cpu, stays at a constant 25-30 %
     
  31. MNDZA

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    Awesome! I was wondering why the cursor was so laggy. However, I am very disappointed in the game so far. I've only been playing for an hour, but I've accomplished NOTHING at all.
     
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    I haven't even left the starting area. Although It's sort of like XI in that you really want to learn all the crafting and gathering stuff so you're not spending 100K on some robe you could have made yourself if you had just kept up with your weaver skill. So you could really spend a few weeks just leveling all the various crafting skills in the very first area. You could even reach the level cap without even fighting a single mob which is a bonus though. So even when you're not doing something, you're doing something lol
     
  33. Krandor311

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    I'm gonna guess you never played FFXI, because spending hours in it and accomplishing absolutely nothing is par for the course.
     
  34. Lozz

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    ROFL exactly, that game was notorious for hours of grinding with nothing to show for it. At least now when you're crafting or harvesting resources you're getting EXP toward your base level cap.


    You almost *have* to craft in XIV. There's no AH afaik.
     
  35. MNDZA

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    I chose to be a blacksmith and I don't know where to start. I tried to do a simple levequest, but the only attack I have is "stone throw" which causes 1 damage and that's not enough to kill a squirrel in an hour. How do I start doing anything without any money or attack strength?
     
  36. tempuuura

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    So does anyone have any specs that they can share in regards to their performance in game? Mine can play fine but I expected better performance from the g73jh.
     
  37. Krandor311

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    The game is very poorly coded, it has nothing do with the G73 and everything to do with how horribly optimized SE code is (which is a little stupid since the Unigine engine is a pretty solid engine, yet somehow they managed to gimp it so bad).
     
  38. Lozz

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    you need to do some more levelquests to get some gill, which you can then use to buy a sword/staff or w/e battlecraft profession you want to be . *then* you can go kill a squirrel. The Crafting professions are not supposed to be used to attack mobs. It's easier to start the game as a battlecraft profession, just because you have more avaliable levelquests. Starting off as a crafter really doesn't make much sense unless it's a mule, although at a certian point it doesn't matter what you start off as at all, since afaik there's no bonus for creating a character off as a certian class. All the items you need to switch to a job can be bought for ~ 1-1.5K through the various NPC vendors.
    I'm not sure it's so much poor coding as them doing it on purpose to provide future support for graphics revisions or updates in the game. Granted, games today are not made like they used to be for sure. After the launch they specifically were caught quoting that the benchmark spits back low scores on extremely powerfull machines on purpose. They absolutely made it so you could not get a high score on a computer today. I'm very happy with what 1 5870 and a 720 is able to do, I believe the only stuff I don't have on @ 1920x1200 is AO/DOF and it's on standard shaders, no AA, high/ highest texture resolution. Still looks fantastic.
     
  39. Krandor311

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    Well, I'd say it's more that it's them stepping back from the standard they set in XI, where the game was being crippled by "PS2 Limitations." You can look at other games with a console release (from personal experience, I play Dragon Age, ME2, Just Cause 2, and as of today Dead Rising 2, so a decent spread of games) and they all play perfectly fine on this laptop.

    So it should stand to reason that since FFXIV is getting a console release as well, it should run in the same neighborhood as these games, but it definitely doesn't. So, I go again with poor coding. Just run a Unigine benchmark and see how much better it's going to run then XIV is.

    That being said, I was a long time player of XI, and am already accustomed to the words "Poor Performance" and "Final Fantasy MMO" being synonymous, so it's not something that bothers me. I'm just leaving that to the gameplay and UI lag.
     
  40. JoeWhee

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    I rather enjoy the game and think it runs wonderfully on the G73. The UI lag is a bit annoying but EVERY launching MMO has the SAME issues. The only people talking about the game on forums are the people complaining cause they don't like it, because everyone else is actually IN the game. The game looks fantastic and runs fantastic. Can't complain at all.
     
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    I get a lot of stuttering in the city, but seems to be smooth in the outdoor environments and the weather effects are great. Not sure if the lag is from the game or my system.
     
  42. JoeWhee

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    I get the stuttering occasionally too, from what I read its common on many different builds good and bad. I think its a server/game issue.
     
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    The performance overall in this game is crap. (From the beta experiance only personally)

    Ran it on 3 different systems and even my system which is the most powerful of the 3 (Q9550 @ 3.84, 4870X2,) ran the game iffy. It was playable but cities with a lot of people will still bring it to a studder. It's just not a well optimized game. I even think the graphics are subpar for todays game standards especially with the horrible texture fade in line that is blatantly visible as you walk through a city. Ugly. Not a MMO I plan on playing anyway.

    Just a personal view/experiance. I believe that the performance will be semi mediocre at best.
     
  44. Lozz

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    it's being ported on the PS3, so you can't make an AION out of it.

    If you want an eye candy game with no content and 0 endgame go play the before mentioned.