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    G53 Stuttering - I give in!

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by s00tie, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've finally given in trying to troubleshoot this myself - I've spent more time trying to fix this laptop than anything I've ever owned hehe

    The machine in question is a UK spec G53JW-IX162V and I have to say - other than this issue - Im in love with the damned thing!

    Firstly - thanks for taking the time to run / use this forum. Its been fantastic in helping me try different things - unfortunately none of them work so far.

    I have gone through the forum plenty - but if I have missed a killer 'how to fix this issue' thread, feel free to point it out - Ive got thick skin :)

    Ok so where to begin? How about the problem....

    When I play any game it seems (by any so far I've tried Rift, World of Warcraft, Mass Effect, Dragon Age 2, World in Conflict) I get stuttering during gameplay and often this manifests itself as a loop or break in audio too. It can sometimes be 20 mins before I get one, or it can be every couple of minutes.

    Before you jump in with "ah yes, this fixes that" let me give you a brief overview of how I've spent the last 2 weeks!

    - Restored base ASUS build from recovery disks
    - Clean WIN7 install then ASUS driver disk for non-bloaty install
    - Tried many (and I mean many) NVIDIA drivers ranging from stock to ASUS downloads, to Latest WHQ, to Beta, to Leaked 270 drivers
    - Updated Audio Drivers to Latest
    - Installed Intel Chipset drivers / Rapid Raid (normal install / forced install)
    - Adjusted WIN7 pagefile (none, double ram, seperate partition)
    - Disabled Superfetch
    - Disabled Aero
    - Checked RAM
    - Checked HDD
    - Disabled Nic / WLAN
    - Updated Nic / WLAN
    - Updated BIOS
    - Reverted BIOS
    - Disabled Core parking for i7
    - Adjusted HDD Wait3 timer
    - Tweaked all settings in Nvidia CP
    - Swapped Refresh from 120 to 60
    - Disable HD audio
    - Disable Nvidia HD audio
    - Updated DX9
    - Disabled AV
    - Minimum background apps

    and I'm sure some other things I can't remember yet.... If any suggestions are mentioned that I have tried come up, I will update this list.

    I've read that some people blame WIN7 for this, some blame the i7, a lot blame the Video card and Verde drivers, some blame the HD audio and the others like me are just running in circles with no joy hehe

    So.. I decided to finally register and perhaps get this issue solved finally. I an happy to try anything - even those things I've already tried if someone feels strongly enough :)

    Well this is me, asking you to help me get my little G53 ticking along nicely.

    Thanks in advance for any help or support.
     
  2. Amitosh

    Amitosh Notebook Consultant

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    Have you tried running your games in DX10?
     
  3. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the reply!

    I haven't done any kind of DX forcing - as far as I'm aware though - Rift, WoW and Mass Effect all default to DX9 - Dragon Age 2 defaults to DX11.

    Happy to try if you know an easy way to test :)
     
  4. myx

    myx Notebook Deity

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    Do you have a momentus Xt drive installed?

    If you think you have gone through everything software possible, you should take in consideration
    1. monitoring temps - high temps lead to throttling that induces stuttering
    or
    2. a hardware failure, such as the psu not delivering enough current to the laptop under high loads (thus throttling that induces stuttering)
    or
    3. psu/gpu going berzerk on you.
     
  5. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've monitored temps and they seem no higher than those others have posted. I have considered HW failure - but there seems to be far too many other people out there with similar problems for it to be that I think. Not ruling it out mind.

    The drive in mine is a WD - I've changed the wait3 timers at bios level on the drive from the default of 4secs to 5 mins.
     
  6. myx

    myx Notebook Deity

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    RMA in this case? As you said you are running out of things to try, which might lead to think that it's a hardware failure. Are you still under warranty?
     
  7. Xanderprime

    Xanderprime Notebook Enthusiast

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    I had the same problem in games with my g73. I had a WD drive also (Scorpio Blue 640gb 5400 rpm). I switched it to a WD Scorpio black and solved the problem.
     
  8. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    Only had it 2 weeks.

    In my opinion RMA will be pointless as you actually have to be a gamer and play the games to see the fault - it won't show on a benchmark or burn in. I will be without the machine for a while and then have it sent back to me with no fault found and a bill for the courier for my trouble.

    My money is on there is something I'm just not doing or a combination of things that need to be done together - I see on the ROG fourm they have a list of recommended drivers for the G73 ( G73 Series Driver and Application Reference) - would this be a good list to follow for the G53 too? Although Chastity's sig states its G73/G53 the thread itself seems to be just for the G53. Is it the fact that the machines are almost identical?

    Appreciate the suggestion buddy - but seems a bit extreme to get a gaming laptop working. I do have another notebook I could swap drives in - think its a Hitachi 5400.
     
  9. manu72

    manu72 Notebook Consultant

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    I would swap the internal drive to a 7200 rpm HDD and then throw the WD in 2.5" usb case.
     
  10. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well it does make sense that it would be the drive - I dont see any such stuttering in my other laptop even though its a lower spec - so I think I'll try swapping the drives and reinstalling as a test first and then if sucessful - I'll be going for a 7200 as suggested.

    Any other recommendations than the WD? Don't really want to give them my money if they have caused my frustrations! hehe

    I see the Seagate Hybrid is getting rave reviews - just not sure I want to throw another £100 at a machine thats already cost me £1300 :)

    What about two smaller 7200's and run them together in a stripe? I know I'd need another caddy but I assume the onboard controller can handle that - other than the extra battery drain are there any real issues or bennefits?
     
  11. manu72

    manu72 Notebook Consultant

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    Try a Seagate Momentus 7200 rpm drive. I personaly would not spend the extra money get the hybrid version (Seagate Momentus XT).

    Edit: To mount a secondary drive you need a cage which Asus doesnt bother to deliver and you have to order it separately. Apparently those mountings are rather scarce.
    I was lucky to find in a old/dismantled laptop a mounting that almost fitted and used it to mount the SSD since it doesn't tend to overheat nor it vibrates.
     
  12. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    I'm posting a new Win7 Hotfix that MS posted. It's not on WU yet.
     
  13. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks again for the replies :)

    I've bought a 7200 Seagate and am just about to do the update.

    Hey Chastity - what is the hotfix for and where have you posted it please?
     
  14. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    check the threads, it's current
     
  15. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm not going to get over excited just yet - lots of testing still to do but to the guys that suggested upgrading my disk to a 7200 - I may well owe you a beer!

    I'll report back once I'm sure but early indications would suggest that it was indeed the WD 5400 Scorpio Blue that was causing the problems.
     
  16. antisniperspy

    antisniperspy Notebook Evangelist

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    I would say that the 7200rpm drives are the standard now. So it was a good choice to replace that 5400rpm drive.
     
  17. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    Still testing this in depth but I haven't seen the stutter yet, fingers crossed :)
     
  18. forever

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    I think I have the same problem with my new SW-3DE. It came with 2 500G Seagate momentum XT hybrid drives. I knew there was some lag issue with this drive and some report said the new SD24 firmware fixed it. I flashed both drives from SD22 to SD24. But I still experience some lag or stutter in game. I'm still thinking what to do now, it seems the Asus support won't do any good and I don't think it's a real defect that I can prove to the seller (Amazon) to return it with full refund. So worst case scenario, I have to change the hard drives. Just need to confirm the hard drive is the real problem.
     
  19. antisniperspy

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    I don't have the XT drives but you would think that a 7200rpm drive with 4mb of ssd space would make this thing a really good drive. I would check for other factors as to why you get stutter/lag
     
  20. s00tie

    s00tie Notebook Enthusiast

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    Please don't hijack this thread buddy - create a new one.
     
  21. ALLurGroceries

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    If you can use wired ethernet it might be worth trying to disable the wireless adapter and see if the stuttering continues.
     
  22. Chastity

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    what he said :)