G53 vs Rivals

Well for the past few weeks I've been glued to the Asus G53 tread because; as I'm sure we all know It looks quite impressive, but other than this and it's brother G73 I haven't heard of any other near as impressive machines being talked up at the moment. Me personally being an Asus lover would probably stick to pre-ordering this laptop anyway, but my question is simply for other enthusiasts, what else is there to look forward to for those who may not be interested in these machines of a nearer standard.

 

The rumored 460 GTX would be nice, though, I worry about the fermi.

 

Why didn't you just ask in the g53 thread? Anyway the I suspect the usual contenders will get updated accordingly; G53, clevo 880cu, dellware m15, envy15 gen3 ect. If you mean is anything coming out sooner that has the new 460 chips - answer is probably not.

 

My favorite part about those specs
*3D functionality optional
That's one option I do not want (#^o^#)

 

Opens a different debate rather the G53 thread is mainly containing discussions over the parts, regardless and in answer to your question; no not necessarily before the new chips but rather any laptop which could compete against this laptop (when it arrives). They probably will be updated but I was seeking those who had confirmed they were to upgrade. Thanks

Tell me about it, I think it's great they've been able to develop it but I'm not the one who's going to appreciate it enough to get it. Don't even like 3D that much anyway

 

Closest competitors are from CLEVO and ALIENWARE, you can add MSI into the mix but their 15" laptops look dated and cannot compare to the others in style.
I would group these 3 15" laptop makers as the cream of the crop

 

Which CLEVO? I havn't really looked into their laptop because i've never actually heard of them before here. As for the Alienware, I'm not a fan of the whole Beastly Alien machine look it has, regardless of it's specifications and they can get a little costly when customizing them.

 

The clevo(sager) 870 gets updated to the 880, in fact I think they are taking preorders for it already. And ikas is right I forgot the msi 760, the first lappy to leak the 460m

 

Why would you worry about fermi? hell i want fermi in my laptop because the new Fermi got the best specs and it's the best graphic card design for a very long time.

And yes this is the desktop GTX460 not mobile but so what? the point is GTX260m and GTX280m were based on 9800 and so does other nvidia cards (The horrible GTX480m was based on the previous GF100 Desktop cards though, the new Fermi is much better overall and top tier)

 

Where can you view the 880? Don't really know which one I'm looking for when I google it or check their website

http://www.lpc-digital.com/store/3302695/product/sa-221-10 ?

 

Yes, that's the one.
Sager NP8850 (Clevo W880CU) 17.3" FHD/i5-520M/NV GTX 480M 2GB GDDR5/4GB DDR3/320G/DVDRW: GenTech PC Store

It is quite a bit more expensive than any asus models, that's just how clevo rolls.

 

That's 17", for 15" you are looking at clevo W860CU. Which has a 5870MR currently, and almost definitely it will have the 460M option when it's out. Though the 5870MR can already OC by 30% easily if needed from Clevo's cooling system, and if anyone already have a 5870MR, unless they desperately need physX and Cuda, I don't see much point in changing to a 460M. Though for new buyers, if they like the nvidia driver (ATI driver is working perfectly on clevo though) etc they might want to choose the 460m option.

 

What if the Video driver wasn't the main objective and rather a quality laptop that provided (of course not solely) but straight up great performance - Like the G53 presents itself with the large RAM allocation and the SSD availability and those little things like USB 3.0.

 

Well, the thing with Clevo is that their cooling is always top notch. Better cooling would mean more headroom for overclocking, and overclocking means better performance. There's tradeoffs, of course--from what I hear from people who've owned both a 17-inch Clevo and the G73, the Clevo was much louder--but in the end Clevo tends to give more for raw performance.

 

Is Clevo solely an American based company? Haven't heard of any in Australia. (where I live)
Even so without even configuring the NP8850 it's already a pricey computer but hey that's the price you pay for better performance.

 

The 8850 is 17", so it's not a valid comparison in the first place, also, it's costly because of the 480M, the 5870MR version is a lot cheaper, a W860CU with 5870MR on stock config is only around 1100. Which brings us to another point - how much the 460M will cost, since the 480M already cost more than double of 5870MR.

The build quality and cooling of Clevos are already top notch, and port options are almost everything available when the technologies are available, express card, firewire, e-sata etc even a line out port for external amp, only thing lacking is USB 3.0 because it was not available then, but you can always use an USB 3.0 express card.

Clevo is a Taiwan company (actually almost all brands of notebooks are built by Taiwanese companies), Sagers are rebranded Clevos.

 

So the updated models should have USB 3.0 you reckon? Also the cooling system on the G53 is said to be really good. Can't remember where I read that though. What about the warranty and assistance if I ended up with a Clevo? They don't even sell them here in Australia in retail stores.

Edit: on http://www.affordablelaptops.com.au they have "pick up and return" warranty on the Clevo's. But I still think I'd rather not go with a Clevo, It hasn't really convinced me yet.

 

Nope, I doubt W860CU will get any USB3.0 update till sandy bridge, because it's not really that important with the express card slot.

Warranty depends on whether you have a local reseller, if not, then tough luck.

 

Yeah there is noone who sells them around here so I'm pretty set on Asus as they've picked up my laptop from my doorstep as apart of warranty before and are generally just a good computer. By the sounds of it Clevo do give you the better computer but in my case it won't serve me well as I tend to damage computers easily

Still thinking the G53 is my next toy unless there's another suitably good laptop to come.

 

Clevo is definitely a good brand. Easily upgradeable, top-notch cooling and general build quality. Compare temperatures of a Clevo to a similarly-specced Asus, any size. As an example, my slightly overclocked GTX 260m (580/1450/870) got higher temperatures that Soviet's 17-inch Clevo, which had an even higher overclocked (percentages, anyway) GTX 280m which was also overvolted.

That being said, I do like the bang-for-buck quality that most Asus performance machines have, and, of course, Asus has much more to offer in the ultralight and netbook departments. As much as acknowledge Clevo's great qualities, I'm sticking with Asus for the moment.

 

Sounds a fair statement, maybe if i had that extra money to spend with the leniency to be able to buy a computer without the guaranteed security that you get with big companies like ASUS then I may have looked into Clevo but for now It's far to say that the G53 is looking the goods.

 

It sounds like you already had made your choice.

 

Oh gawd, you maniacs made another G53 thread?!

 

Wait till its out, probably will be like G73 smashing half the threads on the asus section .

 

Only if it has "problems". I'm not saying the g73 was perfect, but for every "FAQ ABOUT GSOD and how to fix them", there were 4 that said "MY CMPUTR IS ON DRUUUUGZ HALP PLZ FIX FOR ME"

 

... and 10 that said "I just got my G73jh-xx and I uninstalled XXX and installed YYY and now ZZZ doesn't work"...

 

ZZZ was just bloatware anyway, so who cares

 

May be Sager NP5125, aka, Clevo B5100M (dual core i5/i7, 1 GB GT 330M, Optimus, Full HD, USB 3.0) will be a rival to G53 or if Dell comes with a complete refresh of SXPS 16.

 

Rival to the G53 that is projected to have a GTX 460m? I don't think so. It could be a rival to the N82JV, (quad i7 + 335m), but the N82JV is a 14-inch ultralight.

Now I'm wondering what niche that Sager is looking to fill.

 

Yes that is a good computer but I don't think it would be counted as a direct rival. The G53 imo is designed for the Quads with the dual availability. This Sager doesn't even have the quad cores and is more mobility friendly but regardless it is decent computer for it's type.
Also what are the Sager screens like? Even with the FHD LED ones. "Super Clear Glare Type Screen"

 

It's full HD LED screen on a 15.6" which makes it a very high pixel per inch screen. I think G53 will use the same screen as well, since it's currently the only 15.6" screen with FHD resolution, and Asus is from Taiwan as well same as Clevo, their G73 also uses the same screen as Clevo's 8760. Even G53's core concept is similar to Clevo's 8690, smaller size but very thick, and having the same hardware as the 17" version.

 

Sounds good, by reading your sig it sounds like it's not far of a step down from the G53 and rather sounds quite reasonable. Can you give us a summary of your laptops performance.

 

Well, the CPU and GPU options are exactly the same as G73, so performance-wise, there's really not much to add on to. Though if you are talking about operation temperatures, a screenshot speaks a thousand words.

 

That CLEVO has hands down the best temps and best performance of any 15" laptop out.Build quality is top notch, you cannot find a laptop that out classes this in any performance category.
End of story

 

Sorry, little off topic.

What you will suggest between Asus N82 and Sager NP5125 (Clevo B1500M ) ?

 

Configured to about the same levels, it's really whether you want a 14-inch or a 15-inch.