G53JW - Getting TDR while GPU is NOT under load! - Insane!

Hi guys,

I have a non-used-too-much G53JW containing a Nvidia GTX 460. I usually do Nvidia Verde Driver updates using clean installtion and Driver Sweeper with no major problems, that's OK. But one thing is REALLY driving me crazy. I get random and quite frequent TDRs since i've updated my GPU drivers to 301.42 while working with hi-res images in paint, browsing web with Firefox, Word etc...Really light tasks. No TDR i got while gaming so far which is interesting. Prior to getting TDR, the Aero extremely slows down and TDR gets triggerred by itself.

I checked the system stability during 1080p games (like F1 2011) with no problems, but getting irritating TDR while i'm working with such simple tasks (paint, word, firefox)....

I get another problems with older drivers such as PSOD in 296.10, black screen in videos with 285.62, those have been fixed but now i'm facing TDR with 301.42.

Also i'm not hearing good things about 306.97. Note that i have NO overclocked parts on my system, everything is stock.

I'm really lost and sorry with my gaming rig. Any confirmation or solution is GREATLY appreciated!

Cheers!

 

No reply? Please...

 

Sorry, what is a TDR?

Could it be as simple as a slow Hard Drive?

 

Timeout Detection and Recovery

If i were you i would roll back the drivers and see what happens. The older set of drivers for the gtx560m in my machine caused flash apps and videos to freeze and i thought it was flash itself. Updated to the latest drivers and that solved the problem.

If you can't roll back the drivers grab the driver from the asus support site and see if that causes issues.

 

Hi,
What driver and version are you using on your G53SX? I get occasional TDRs since R300 Verde drivers and i bet that was due to agressive and unbalanced power management of Nvidia drivers. Before 3xx.xxx drivers, i used to work fine without a single TDR.

BTW, i found some info to get more stable power environment rather than keeping it `adaptive`, and i set `power management` setting to `maximum performance` but my idle temps went mad!

See thread here:

GTX 460m, 63 degrees IDLE temp When "Prefer Maximum Performance" is Enabled!

Any hint and observation?

 

Posted the same problem here and got NO answer:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ers/tdr-between-the-rock-and-the-hard-place-/

 

It's likely on the intel driver side by the sounds of things, setting max performance forces the dgpu active.

 

Intel driver? What do you mean? It's all about Nvidia and its crappy drivers that causes poor voltage fluctuation. I never had this problem before 3xx.xx series.

 

I forgot asus don't use optimus, you could look into tweaking the 2d clock profile using nvidia inspector.

 

That's the problem. Nvidia inspector won't able to maintain VDDC (p-states) unless i flash VBIOS which has already the stable one, Vbios version is "70.06.0E.00.12 (p1069-dd10)".

Plus using 2D clocks causes TDR, that's why i mentioned in my first post. If i don't use 3d clocks (setting power management setting to "maximum performance"), i got random TDRs and poor Aero performance. I never ever had this problem before R300 driver series.

When the GPU is idle, the lowest p-state, my VDDC is: 0.8120v
When "maximum performance" setting is active and running at 3d clock profile, my VDDC is: 0.9620v and it's perfectly stable.

Any hints?

 

You could get the vbios modified by svl7 perhaps to raise the 2d voltage a tad.

 

Yep, that's the only choice and probably it still will result in higher temps like i mentioned, too. And i'm hesitating to do that (Vbios flash) coz my notebook isn't covered under warranty any longer, and i bought it from abroad. Also, i read somewhere that my current VBIOS version should be the optimum (already modded) one.

The problem is, why did Nvidia decide to screw up my GPU stabilitiy after 3xx.xx driver series?

 

Well you could maybe just lower the 2d clocks a bit, should not impact performance much apart from gaming on battery.