G73 GPU temps.

Well, I'm almost positive that I've got the GPU paste issue. Check out these stats:
Idling at 84c 0% load, 60% load goes to about 100c, 100% load crashes the computer within 45 seconds bringing it over 115c.

..so I guess im in for a repaste. Some quick questions before I get started...

1) Does anyone recommend Arctic Silver 5? I've got some left over from a build awhile ago and using that would negate having to buy something new...but if IC diamond is significantly better I'll just get it.
2) What other enhancements can I preform while everything is disassembled?
3) I found the thread about disassembling the G73, however, are there any step by step picture walk throughs or even better, a video?


Thanks!

 

Have you tried blowing out your exhaust vents?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/557625-video-using-air-can-your-g73.html

 

Those are very high temps 80oC at idle is the highest I have heard of in a G73.

Arctic Silver 5 is what I used and here are my results - Here

Try the above regarding blowing out your fans but they must be seriously clogged up if you are running that high.

Have you updated the VBIOS? BIOS? Drivers?

If nothing works a repaste will be required.

 

Clean your vents out if you have a chance. Also AS5 is ok but if you can get your hands on some ICD-7 it will be much better. For the video etc , look in the below thread.. has all the info you need for your G73!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...blems-useful-threads-read-before-posting.html

 

Just be very careful with the small things like the locks for the keyboard connectors. The pale yellow color clips because I have broken one of this because I used to much force, Just warning you to be extremely gentle.

 

thanks everyone! Will do. I've got alot of experience with hardware replacement and I've got plenty of desktops under my belt! I'm looking forward to opening her up and doing some manual labor

 

Well today was the big day. Tore everything up, did a thorough cleaning and went in with the sole purpose of repasting the GPU with ICdiamond 7. while I was down there I got too tempted and repasted the CPU as well. Put everything back together with success and booted up.. heres the results!

Before:
CPU: 65c idle
GPU: 81c idle

After:
CPU: 43c idle
GPU: 51c idle


When I ripped up the GPU I was appalled to see almost ZERO paste on it! Literally, it was almost reflective bare. When I pulled the CPU heatsink off it was even worse than the GPU... I'm pretty sure they put 1mm of the worlds worst thermal paste on each and hope and pray.

 

Sadly that does not surprise me your laptop was probably pasted with a tube that was near the end of its use and the technician was probably just about to go home and didnt care lol bless you Asus

Very good results for you and you surely saved your GPU from burning out and will keep it running for a good while now. When mine was done the Paste was dry and crumbled and the cpu only had the centre section covered its so worth repasting.

 

anyone who didn't pasted until he bought it?
what were your stock paste temperature when you've bought it and what are they now ?
my G73JH is around 6 months old and my current temperatures on the GPU are 52/58/58 at 400/1000 clock IDLE (before 1 week they were 10 C higher and i've made some blowing into the vents)

 

I use to Idle around 54oC in only 15oC ambient and now 48oC after a repaste so your temps are fine at IDLE probably push into the low 90oC at extreme burn like mine did prior to a repaste and im sure its hotter where you are.

 

yeah i think it can handle 6 more months without repasting

 

I think I dun goofed hard. I ran fur mark to bench it and 60 seconds in temps were 80c, so good so far. Then the entire screen began to bug out. Think white noise in technicolor. I quickly raced to force shutdown with the power button. Waited five minutes turned it back on and it's blank screened. I don't understand how the gpu could fry at 80c ?? This doesn't make any sense

 

Sounds like your memory pads didn't get re-set.

 

The padding over the memory modules on the gpu? The gel like stuff? I made sure to realign them and set them down perfectly before mounting the heat sink.

 

I repasted my gpu and CPU on my g73jh today. Everything went fine, all temps were down 20-30c. I played around some online and had nobproblems. Decided to use fur mark to see how hot it'd get...this is where hell started...

60 seconds into fur mark, gpu is 80c so not too high... The screen suddenly starts to freak out, pixelated lines and technicolor white noise. I rush to force shutdown and wait 5 minutes for anything to cool off. Redraft computer and the screen stays blank. Post occurs, drives are spinning but the screen remains dead. I'm having a real hard time accepting that my newly pasted gpu got fried @ 80c one minute into a furmark test....

I'm not sure if there's any fix, or even, what's exactly occured. If anyone can help please chime in!


Thanks

 

External monitor work?

 

Not sure. I don't have one where I'm staying currently.

 

Try to get your hands on one if you can. It will tell you if your computer is putting out a video signal. Can you hear Windows sounds on booting? That will offer some information too.

If I were you I would be hoping for a video cable which was not completely inserted into is socket.

 

Dont think it can be that. The laptop didn't move during this time and I had it on for 2 or 3 hours before I ran the furmark test:/

 

Well, you need to do some investigation into the problem before you assume the worst. What I've mentioned is what I'd do at this point. Good luck with your problem.

 

Like I said in the other thread, you probably cleaned off your thermal pads or misplaced them... so the GPU would be fine, until you pushed the memory ... and paaaf. No more onboard gpu vram ... no more gpu.

But try it with an external monitor plugged in. If it doesn't load, try a blind flash.

 

Still, the problem you describe is the usual process for dying vram, sped up from several weeks into about 30 seconds. Maybe you shorted the gpu? What paste did you use? Also, check out the PSOD, maybe that's what happened - and that's a weak solder joint issue.

 

This is sorry news indeed DCX is right though it might only be one part of the GPU that has caused it and the symptoms do sound like the memory if one section of the memory is missing its heatpad or its moved or slipped that you didnt see when fitting the heatsink that can cause it to fry.

The temperature you mention is probably the Diode or Display temperature only certain programs GPU-z/Hwinfo display each section of the card's temps.

Open it up and have a look if its all ok repaste again and check nothing has come loose or dissconnected its worth a try and lets hope PSOD has not occured or its game over and repair time.

Are you under warranty?

 

Roger. I have the returned best buy version. I plan on going and trying to exchange. It's been 100 days since purchase. The warranty is 90 but with enough complaining hopefully they'll take it.

I tried hooking it up to external monitor but there's no signal coming from the gpu. Guess it's time to run a magnet on the hdd and try a return on manufacturers defect.

 

Just return it on the basis the GPU is fried dont sabotage it or they might know and not replace it costing you more money. As long as you have only repasted the GPU and not broken the CPU seal you will be fine.

 

Another note, it boots all the way to windows screen I presume (can't see anything) but numlock and caps lock turn on etc..

 

Have you opened it up and checked everything is connected? It sounds as if the GPU is not working at all but it may be fried and need replacing. Send it in giving the symptoms and they will replace it.

 

That wouldn't work. They would just replace the hdd if it was under warranty.

 

Yep, everything is in right. I'm going to just bring it directly to best buy. Iirc the warranty is through them.

I mean to protect and erase my data. Nit under the pretense that it's an hdd issue.

 

I looked up psod...it wasn't that. The entire screen went wacky with colored white noise.

Another note, when I originally opened the heat sink most of the gel for the VRAM was out from underneath it on one spot. Looked like the factory placed it off center originally...this could be compounded failure because of the usage without that coating on a few modules for the entire lifespan of the computer. Damn my luck.

 

I would also try removing the AC and battery and hitting Power on a few times to discharge everything.

 

Just got back from best buy. They refused to take it because it's a few days out of warranty. Only option I had was to pay $35 bucks to send it in and get a repair estimate. I said forget that and now I'm back to square one... So my options are attempt to somehow fix it or part it out.

Brought it to best buy..it's a few days out of warranty so they wouldn't take it. Ill attempt to fix it myself. If I can't I'll part it out I guess.

No signal to the exterior monitor. It loads up to windows login because all the function keys lights and fans are operational

 

I merged your two threads together, there were duplicate replies so I figure it's less confusing this way.

It's possible that you can find a new video card, it sounds like you may have fried your VRAM from what others have suggested.

If you find a 460 you might be the first person to try that swap.

 

Thanks allurgroceries. Where would I go about finding a raw mobile 460? I would totally attempt a swap.. I love projects.

 

I think you would need a new heatsink for the 460 too... I'm not sure where else besides ebay. Keep in mind it needs to be an ASUS card because of the non-standard mxm card (the connector may be standard but the card layout is not). If you found it at a parts store it would probably cost a million dollars..

 

Dang... It's weird too because i had a bad feeling about the thermal padding on the VRAM. When i pulled off the heatsink the bottom VRAM edge closest to the back of the case stuck onto the VRAM and not the heatsink so I had to move it over onto the VRAM so it would sit correctly because it slid half off. Any other options to try?

 

Just to be clear, you've tried removing the battery and AC power and let it sit for a minute?

If you get nothing through the VGA output, then your video card is definitely not happy.

If the VRAM has failed, I can only think of a few options:
-replace the card (I can't find one on ebay right now)
-have someone replace the vram (may be expensive)
-cut your losses and part out the rest of the machine

None of these will have you back up and running very soon, unfortunately.

 

If you manage to fit the 460m GTX into it you would become a bit of a legend on the will this reverse engineered mxm chipset fit in a JH thread

OP Did you not say earlier that you were under warranty? If you only bought it 100 days ago then RMA it and get ASUS to give you a new card.

 

:/ yeah nothing out the VGA. I did pull out the battery and the ac and pressed power a few times to try and defuse the machine to no avail...no change is apparent. I may go down and attempt to pull off the heatsink again to see if there is any visual damage.

I'm not too knowledgable on what's worthwhile to part out on the g73, so aside from the ram and the hard drive what else is selling?

 

Woah woah before you go pulling and selling if you bought it 100 days ago you should be under the ASUS 1 years manufactuer not BB warranty!!! Send it into ASUS, RMA it on the website listing the problems you have and make sure its all back together properly before sending it in. Whip the HDD out if you dont want to lose your data.

 

Yeah it could be worth trying to reseat the GPU, take it out of the slot and put it back, and make sure that the heatsink is on correctly.

If you want to go really far with it, you can try removing the CMOS battery for a minute. Sometimes that has cleared up strange problems for people, but it's not easy to get to. I suppose if your system is half dead it could be worth the effort.

You can part out the entire machine on ebay or something, either as a whole lot or piece by piece, depending on how much time/patience you have. There are plenty of people who are always looking for odd bits and pieces for their machine. I'm not sure how much of a return you'd get on it, but it's better than throwing it in the trash. Every piece of it is worth money to the right person. Especially the odd cables and bits like that. Your motherboard should be OK too, that's worth a bunch right there.

 

Just to let you guys know I did check the rma warranty and because I bought it refurbed the warranty is only 90 days. they wouldn't cover it under warranty because it's been 100 days.

Murphys law

 

That's brutal. But you do take that risk when you buy a refurbished machine - it's not much of a warranty.

 

Oh its a refurb dang! Well before you sell it off try to find a new 5870m first you will end up probably losing a lot more by porning it off.

 

Also, someone mentioned blind flashing the VBIOS earlier. I'm not sure if that's your problem, but you could try it. I'm not sure it would *hurt* anything at this point.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...lp-i-bricked-my-g73-vbios-16.html#post6647309

 

I figure down the road someone else may have this problem so I'm going to document and attempt every solution and make a guide post if it works it works. If not, its a learning experience.

 

Might be an idea to have a chat with the boys at:

MXM Upgrade Home Page

They will be able to sort you out with a 5870m ready to go into your G73 and you will probably get the best price for it.

 

If you take the CMOS battery out make sure the main battery and AC are both disconnected too. I'm really not sure it's going to help, but as I said, it could be worth a shot in the dark.

A blind flash is also worth a try and will take much less time, so maybe try that first.

 

Though, I read an article ... where? okay, it's anecdotal evidence until I can find the link, that shows that a computer is most likely to require warranty work within the first 60 days of purchase. I guess it makes sense, if you don't have a problem right away, you probably won't get one for awhile.

 

Yeah, it's probably true DCx, as long as you really stress the machine in the first few weeks that you have it. The first thing I do on a new system is stress test & memtest it until I feel like I've really tortured it. But there are always physical things that can go wrong, so it's not entirely assured.

I try to only buy refurbished stuff when the budget is the main concern and I'm willing to take the risk for whomever I'm buying the machine for (I never buy refurbs for myself - lol except for the Das Keyboard I'm typing on).