G73 intel sdd 80gb windows 7 updates

Hello guys.

Here is my question I have benn using my 2 days old G73 and windows 7 is been installed on the 80 GB Intel sdd.

So far my free disk space is already only 32 Gbites left and must of the used space is been because of windows updates.

All my musique and films and games are on the second driver, any suggestions, because if this keeps on going on in day 10 i will be out space.

 

Sounds about right. I have 160GB SSD. But my computer only show it 148gb due to bits and byte conversion. I have 100gb of free space with 2 games install, hardly any major programs. That means I used up 48gb. Since you don't really have 80gb I say you used most of it up already.

 

MMM I never thought Windows 7 would use over 50 gb all by him self and when do the updates are going to stop ?

And if that is the case provably be wiser finding a lite version of Windows 7 or shrinking it in some way NO

 

well like I said, I have 2 major games installed. Windows takes like 30GB (don't quote me on this). Many people reported that after some games installed left them 10gb of free space. They usually non-programs (like movies, pictures, installers) to their second hard drive.

 

I have a Intel 80GB SSD and use this method. Works fairly well with two drives. You can also install programs and games to the normal 500GB drive. Everything still loads super fast. I'm very happy with it.

 

Mine's close to that- 160gb SSD, have about 110gb or so free with Crysis, Borderlands, Steam and Torchlight installed. Make sure you guys have moved over your My Documents/Temp folders /etc over to the second drive. That'll free up a lot of stuff.

I still load my games on the SSD- if you're ONLY loading the OS on it, what's the point?

 

Try running Disk Cleanup (Start/All Programs/Accessories/System Tools) to get rid of temporary files, recycle bin files, etc.

As others mentioned, your disk usage is about normal. It's not going to fill up from Windows updates.

 

That sounds good >>>> Make sure you guys have moved over your My Documents/Temp folders /etc over to the second drive. That'll free up a lot of stuff.

Some one out there knows how to do this ???

Looking for a step to step in How to mouve must files to second hard driver !!!

 

I squirreled this away in my gmail, and forget who originally took the screenie. Credit goes to them:




Do this with your temp folder also.

 

I think that was for xp, I dont have that option (move) under W7

Besise when ever I want to mouve a files related to the system, it says you dont have permition... I input all permitions to me and I cant do anithing.

I was trying that lastnight, because wanted to mouve a folder of my intivirus and got same problem.

Under xp i was free to mess with the files , with W7 it seems is not so easy or even worse not posible.

 

You'll probably want to disable System Restore, and remove the archived history of drivers and such.

 

The option is definitely there for Windows 7- you can see the screenshots are from Vista or 7. I would turn off UAC- that gets rid of a lot of the problems you're experiencing.

I leave system restore on, but keep it to a bare minimum. Supposedly it affects TRIM's abilities, but I haven't seen it really slow down when doing manual TRIM.

 

I have the 80 GB SSD too. I am using almost 14 GB of total space on the C: drive. That is with these conditions:

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit OS
Updated Catalyst Asus DVD Blueray viewer is on C:
Installed MS Office Pro 2010 on D:
Only stuff that gives me no choice is installed on C: everything else is on D:
System Restore is turned OFF ( I use ERUNT which is better anyhow)
Hibernation is turned OFF. (make sure there is no option to hibernate in start menu.)
I have all of the .NET framework versions and their updates on C: (no choice)
I have all of the current Windows update files on C: (no choice)
I use AVG antivirus. ( Use delete temp files in CCleaner, or in AVG tools )
Use CCleaner
I have an HP Laserjet printer installed
Very little is EVER found by Windows "Clean up disk" (a couple of k at most)

System Restore can use many GB of disk space and is difficult to control as far as how much maximum space can be used (there's no option to enter the number directly, only using a very inaccurate slide button.)

Hibernate will use as many GB as you have in System Memory (8)

Page File will also use double system memory on C: drive (16 GB) so I have that moved over to the D: drive (although it is rarely needed.)

When I got my Computer it already had more than 30 GB in use, before I even installed anything of my own. Now with my stuff all on board, all of the Windows updates received, and the settings adjusted I am way down.

BTW, Intel has a Defrag tool available for download if you have the Intel SSD.

I should be ok with the 80 GB SSD for the next couple of years (I hope) so I can upgrade when prices get more within reach.

P.S.

I moved the entire USERS folders over to the D:drive (very tricky thing to do) and only gained 200MB so that is not really worth doing, plus it can cause problems with Windows stability down the road. (I reverted back to default)

However, as was suggested, it is worthwhile moving all of your own User Folders, i.e. "My Documents, Photos, etc. etc. over to the D: drive using the move option in each folder.

P.P.S.

I feel your pain! A couple of days ago I was only using 12.8 GB on C:, Then I installed the HP printer, updated the Asus DVD blueray viewer (which uninstalled the version I had on D:, and put it on C: ) and the latest Windows update pushed me up to 13.8 GB on C:

But don't despair, as Windows files age, the "cleanup disk" option will start compressing old files which will recover space for you. So keep checking that option too.

 

Right click on your documents folder. Follow the logical steps. For me, that includes "Adding" the D:\ as an additional library and then making it the default spot.

There is an excellent resource on the topic (and step by step instructions) right here.

 

I don't even have a horse in this race and I got bit by that again.

Personally, I don't keep anything in My Documents, and if it wasn't needed for some hard coded operations, I would delete it. It's like a huge target. It's like putting your valuables into a safe and then leaving the safe on your front lawn.

 

First of all big thanks & congratulations since you did a grest job reducing your sdd space to only 13.8 GB

I immediately when on my sitem and fallow your precious advises

Never the less I am stock with this 3 points :

1 ERNDT

I did install it and made a back up with it, but after restar my system i got this message, then I ignore that message and went ahead to try the new back up, and i got all kind of scary message saying that some files were missing and so on, so i desintal it

Error mesage

windows erdnt auto back up registry backup will continue but no restore information for the erdnt program be saved

2 Page file

I love the idea of it but i cant find Page file on my system
Can you provide me the target ?

Page File will also use double system memory on C: drive (16 GB) so I have that moved over to the D: drive (although it is rarely needed.)

BTW

could not find that program on the Internet

Intel has a Defrag tool available for download if you have the Intel SSD

 

Hello Solrac13!

I think I can help you with your 3 points.

About ERUNT: That program will backup your registry automatically everyday, when you first start your computer.

HOWEVER: Erunt must be run as Adminstrator, so what to do?? Well, you must create a schedule for it to run at system startup. here is a good step by step explanation. I have that done on my system and it works great. It is actually better than System Restore. See here. There are many more links about all of this, but these are the ones I found really quick. But I would also recommend thinking of a way to clone your system disks to an external hdd. That is the safest bet. I recommend Clonezilla, it is a free download.

About the Page file and moving it to the D: drive see here. The main idea is to have '0' space on the C: drive, and move the size you used to see on the C: drive over to the D: drive. Some people might suggest not having a page file (virtual memory) at all, on our G73's because with 8 GB of ram, you will rarely need it. But some programs might want to use it nonetheless, so I have just moved it to the D: drive (I have mine set to 16 GB since there is plenty of room there.)

About the Intel utility: check here.

Hope this helps!

 

Keep in mind, if you move the Pagefile to any other drive than C:, you will not be able to create dumps should you get a BSOD. So, if you use a program like WhoCrashed, it will not work.

 

billyray @

Thanks brilliant instructions,I feel very lucky to find you as with a new system I consider all this modifications from day 3 are essentials.

So far I did the Page file move and will try the rest tomorrow.

 

C:, you will not be able to create dumps should you get a BSOD. So, if you use a program like WhoCrashed, it will not. WHAT?

What is this story of dumps mean?
& whoCrashed........!

 

A Blue Screen Of Death or BSOD, or Stop Error, is a critical system error. It takes the form of a blue screen with white text that suddenly appears and stops the computer to prevent further damage. Windows has the option in "Startup and Recovery" to either do nothing, write a minidump or write a full Kernel memory dump. Depending on the size of your Pagefile, the latter two options contain information about the critical error.

Unless it is different with Windows 7, the Pagefile needs to be on the C: drive for the dump to work. Later after rebooting, the dump file can then be used by programs like WhoCrashed to analyze the contents and help you diagnose what may have caused the critical error.

 

If you are really worried about getting minidumps, then just add a 50-100 MB pagefile on C: and keep the large one on D: Problem solved!

 

@ Kalim Thank you very much for your instructive help
@billyray I must admit I almost had a heart attack when I read Kalim message lol

Any way for the pageFile I did fallow the instruction exactly as they describe it, so I wrote 1000 pagefile on C: (That is what was writing on the example of the link)

For the rest i haven't had much time I will do it on an empty head cause I did got some scary message last time lol

 

I have an 80 GB Intel SSD too. Programs I install on the SSD. Steam and games go to the 500 GB harddrive.

I have 49,4 GB still free. Pagefile fixed on 1 GB and hibernation disabled since it's pointless. Office Home User installed.

 

That sound good, I have almost same configuration that you and , with the difference that I did install Steam on C and have one game on it that takes 10 GB

Must of my programs on the 500 GB hard driver with some exceptions like inti virus and Adobe reader left unfortunately on C.

And at the present time after doing the pagefile i only have left 35.3 GB and i still have one more update on hold because is weight is 500 MB (Net Frame 4 update)

I hope one for all after i accept that update, windows update is going to leave me in peace lol.

As soon I figure out how to make work the program ERUNT I will deactivate the system recovery. Hoping all will work fine and my hard driver space worries leave me alon, so I can concentrate in other system worries

 

You're on the right track, Solrac13! I think the biggest space wasters are Hibernation, System Restore, and the Page File. Once you get those handled, you only have to be sure to install any program (that lets you) on the D: drive. I have Net Framework 4, and 3, and all their service packs, MS Office 2010 Pro, Adobe Acrobat and Reader, an HP printer and all of the other programs that were preinstalled on the Program File x86 directory -- these are all things that gobble space, and give you little choice on where they go (although the office programs can be installed elsewhere, they still have a lot of overhead on the C: drive) I even have Creative software installed and working. I updated the Asus DVD8 Blueray player so I could play the blueray version of Avatar, and just doing the update moved the installation over to the C: drive (no choice.) With all of that I am currently at 14GB on C: with 60 GB free space. I have 100MB pagefile on C: just in case I ever need to see the minidump file (THANKS KALIM!) Although in all of the years I have been using Windows, I have NEVER tried to look at or interpret a minidump. But you never know....

I really think this is the best you can do. It is just crazy to look into moving the User Directories and Program Files directories, as they are integral to the System, and although I know from personal experience it CAN be done, It really isn't worth the risk of destabilizing Windows sometime down the road when they issue a service pack.

The most I have to worry about now are system and program updates, and I feel I have enough room (more than enough room) to handle those. Everything else I add can probably go on the D: drive.

If I were you, I would install Steam on D: and definitely move that game over to D: too. 10 GB is too much to leave on C if it doesn't need to be there.

Learn about Erunt, it is a good little program, and much better than system restore (safer too) The thing to remember is that it has to be scheduled to run at system startup with administrator privileges. Also learn about the switches when running Erunt, so you have a few days worth of backups. This will go in your Windows directory, and eventually will use a couple hundred MB, but still nothing compared to system restore. Did you know each system restore depends on the one before it? With Erunt, you can restore your system registry to exactly how things were when you first booted up, before everything got fubared. I have used Erunt many times (Erndt actually) to restore my registry when things got weird. There's a little more work to using it, and it requires that you understand a little about how it backs up and restores, but it will give you peace of mind, and free you from space wasting system restore.

Keep us posted Solrac13, and let us know what you get your free space up to! REMEMBER make system image backups before doing anything crazy or anything you are not too sure about. That way you can always bring back your system to its stable working self.

 

just installed the 80gb intel ssd and everything seems to be up and running but I just have one problem. All of my games and data are stored on my second hdd, I can access steam and my games but it seems whenever I start up a game it wants me to start a new save game file

 

@Billyray: what ASUS Bluray viewer update are you referring to?

 

I was using Asus DVD8, and when I tried to play Blueray movie Avatar, it said I had to update the software to watch. So it automatically re-installed itself on the C: drive during the update. But then it worked very good.

 

+1
I have my Intel drive in the desktop and an Indillinx 64G in the G51...

Didn't remember seeing these here in this thread, but if you really want to save some more space:
1 Turn off system restore and use the image facility in the backup and restore section in Win7. ( A few gig depending on options...)
I've used it to restore my OS from an image of the "old" the Indilinx drive to the Intel drive, then used computer management storage manager to resize the partition on the Intel to utilise the extra space left from the smaller drive image... All good with preserved alignment on the newer SSD...
2 Re-size your recycle bin, this little sucker defaults to about %5 from iirc.
( Could save you a couple of gig...)

Dave

 

Curious why folks are picking the Intel drives over the other brands. Is it just a price issue or does it our perform the other models? I am also wanting to make the switch to SSD.

 

Intel drives have an application to allow for a manual TRIM.

 

The Intels used to have a marked advantage in 4K threaded read/write, but some of the newer Sandforce controller drives have given the Intels a very good run for the money. If not beaten them speedwise.
Most of the drives with Indillinx controllers are TRIM capable too, though the Gen 2 Intels have an optimizer application (which can be scheduled) that reads and re-conditions the 'empty' space ensuring the drive retains it's first use capabilities...

Have a look at Anandtech, particularly here if you have the patience

Also, the OCZ forums are a pretty good source of info.

Even the Most Popular SSD Articles here on NotebookReview...

 

Gen 2 Intels have an optimizer application (which can be scheduled) that reads and re-conditions the 'empty' space ensuring the drive retains it's first use capabilities... Hello I have an intel SSD driver but dont have that software Can you tell us where can we get it ?

 

Manufacturer support page> Latest Downloads> select Intel® Solid State Drive Toolbox

Don't try using it on ANY other drive, don't think it even supports G1 Intels....

 

thanks i run it now great!

 

Just FYI...I don't usually buy stuff like this from Bestbuy. But they have the intel 80gb ssd drive on sale with $30 gift card.

Intel® - X25-M Mainstream 80GB Internal Serial ATA II Solid State Hard Drive - SSDSA2MH080G2R5 ssd&cp=1&lp=1

 

Is gen 2 drive...

Sandforce looks good...

 

Most of the post was good billyray, but are you sure about this?

Why would anyone defrag an SSD? Defragging requires multiple read write to the same drive to "stack" the files so they are accessed more quickly(?), with a much smaller seek time from SSD's random access abilities defragging has been negated on Solid State Drives. Secondly, the read writing during defrag dramatically shortens the life of the SSD because the NAND have a limited number of write cycles...

Just noticed this today whilst re-reading your "optimise SSD" link shown in later post...

@Solrac13; If you have 8G of RAM, why the hell would you bother with a pagefile anyway? Install a small RAM monitor and take a pic if you ever use over 60 percent of installed...

Would be interested to hear of people's maximum RAM utilisation anyway...?