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    G73 with world of warcraft

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Warninglabel, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. Andrei Pavel

    Andrei Pavel Notebook Geek

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    No difference for me either...
     
  2. shoe3k

    shoe3k Notebook Consultant

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    As of Cataclysm, in Org, prime time, you will receive lower fps. That is the nature of the game and happens to everyone. That is what happens when there are a lot of people around on your screen.

    The 10mans and 25mans have been fine for me with solid 60fps. Even when I'm using the full water effects I have no problems. After my repaste my max temps were between 60-64C when doing our 10-man raid on Cho'Gall last night.

    * Some problems with WOW people should know about. If using quest objectives or tracking achievements you will get that stutter lag until you reload WoW or use /reload command.

    If anybody is interested my character is Fence on Laughing Skull.
     
  3. Networc

    Networc Notebook Consultant

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    Do you run any addons?

    Also, give this script a try: Leatrix Latency Fix : WoW Tools & Utilities : WoWInterface AddOns
    It adjusts the frequency of TCP acknowledgments. It just about cuts my latency in half.
     
  4. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    To prevent low FPS, this is what you do:

    - Ultra Graphics
    - Vsync OFF
    - Shadows MED
    - Play in Windowed Mode (Full Screen)

    ...voila, 60 FPS in 25 mans and up to 100 FPS everywhere else (minus big cities).

    The trick is the last step in order to achieve outstanding performance.

    Edit:

    The lag-delay is probably due to your hard drives. Since MMO's are hard-drive reading heavy, the hard drive will sometimes stop spinning and when something significant happens on your screen, it starts back up, causing a 1-2 second delay until the drive is fully active.

    Some users have fixed this by doing a firmware update, however it doesn't work for everyone. If you're unsuccessful with the firmware and have covered other bases, you may have to get them exchanged by Asus.

    It took me forever to find the culprit. Sadly, this problem was the beginning of the end for my hard-drive; only got worse (hence, the RMA).
     
  5. shoe3k

    shoe3k Notebook Consultant

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    Not at all. The hard drives themselves only lag when loading textures and they don't do this in a constant rate. The worst that happens is some textures don't appear or characters don't appear. If the hard drive is having hardware issues then it will cause serious stutters that are unplayable. The constant fps drops from 60 and below are due to the API used by WoW.

    The fps stutter is due to the API which can be caused by achievements tracking or viewing, quest tracking, quest objectives, etc. Also, addons can also create the same effect due to the API too. It stays like this until you /reload or restart WoW completely. Some addons will have to be disabled if it is a constant issue.
     
  6. Jody

    Jody Notebook Deity

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    Mine runs WoW great. I have the Titan Panel addon and it displays lag and FPS at all times. There are never any issues. I just started playing a few weeks ago and have never done a 25 man raid. I would think that if you have excellent performance all the time except when you have lots of other players on the screen then you have a lag problem related to your internet connection. There is no difference in what needs to be drawn by the graphics card in raids than outside of them other than it needs a big internet feed of where the other characters are and what they are doing at the moment.

    I run 1920X1080 Ultra with the water effects turned on.
     
  7. Andrei Pavel

    Andrei Pavel Notebook Geek

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    I have a problem while running WoW. It runs fine, but when I move the camera 90 degrees (for example while I am flying on my mount in open areas) I get a 1-2 second stutter-effect. What can be the cause? Textures not loading fast enough? Is this a gpu/cpu/hdd/low bandwith problem?
     
  8. Khaldum

    Khaldum Notebook Guru

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    Had FPS issues as well, Turning off "Reduce Input Lag" helped a great deal for me.
     
  9. Networc

    Networc Notebook Consultant

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    I remember seeing this, too. I tried several different things at once (poor testing, I know), but I think what helped the most was enabling DirectX 11 in the config. file.

    At the same time, I remember turning down sun shafts and shadows, so that might have helped. Experiment a little, it should go away.
     
  10. Skullbussa

    Skullbussa Notebook Enthusiast

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    I had the Best Buy laptop and I had absolutely zero FPS issues in raids. You guys either monkeyed with your systems too much or didn't run in DX11 mode as Networc above mentioned. There is absolutely ZERO need to OC processor or GPU to make this game run well in 10 & 25 mans.
     
  11. merka

    merka Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wouldn't going into DX11 mode cause even more of a system resource hit, in turn decreasing FPS?
     
  12. Networc

    Networc Notebook Consultant

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    Some sites say DX11 can increase framerate in WoW by 10-20ish FPS (some claim 30-40%). I imagine Blizzard put more effort into using DX11 to increase efficiency rather than squeeze out more effects - although one of the new DX11 features is water reflections.

    If Andrei is experiencing the same issue that I was, it's not a consistent FPS issue. It's more of a stutter/jump as you make large field-of-view turns. DX11 might have been what fixed it for me but, again, I made several adjustments to my video options, noticed that it went away, and never thought about it again.
     
  13. Andrei Pavel

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    I believe I am experiencing exactly exact the same issue as you did. Thing is I run in DX11 since this option became available. I will fiddle around with the video settings. Maybe I can make this disappear without losing quality or performance.
     
  14. josh22

    josh22 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello fello G73 owners and gamers.....on a whim I just signed up for a 10 day trial of WoW and am finding it too be quite fun.....I have heard about this game for years but never showed interest because it seemed really involved.My question is did I get myself into a crazy addiction here or am I overeacting?...lol....I would like too hear from other players of this game and hear your thoughts.The trial is based on cataclism I think so I know if I get into this I will have ALOT of catching up too do....thx for any replies... :)
     
  15. tigerhooligan

    tigerhooligan Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello everyone. I just recently became a member of the Asus G73JH family. I had to go with the Best Buy model for the financing.

    My main game is Warcraft which I know a lot of people say has crap coding. My problem is I get a 1-2 second lag every few minutes as people said in other threads. It's not really an fps issue. It seems like when the game has to queue the server for something (check mailbox, raid warning, attacked by a rogue, looting, etc) is when it lags.

    I've read that it may be the hard drive and I may need to replace it. Just wondered if anyone could shed some light on a fix for me. I've searched through the forums and can't really find a fix so I thought I'd start a new thread.

    Thanks for any help you can give me.
     
  16. Networc

    Networc Notebook Consultant

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    Try the settings I reference in my signature and the Leatrix script, as well. Let us know how things work afterward.
     
  17. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    Not sure if I already posted in this thread, but you'll want Vsync Off and play in Windowed Mode (Full Screen) ...oh, and shadows @ medium.

    This will give you 60-110 FPS anywhere in the game except for the Org mailbox area and maybe a graphic intensive boss (I haven't raided end-game cata, just entrance so far since I'm casual).
     
  18. Networc

    Networc Notebook Consultant

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    Like I said in the other thread, I respectfully disagree with having Vsync Off... but it's largely a personal opinion. Yes, there is an FPS drop, but that's kinda the point.

    I'd much rather operate in the 40-60 FPS range and have smooth screen refreshes rather than suffer any tearing.
     
  19. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    I thought I was not addicted after one week

    After 3 years my own guild with 200 members nightly gaming, skiving off work to do dailies, losing my girlfriend, gaining 3 stone, lack of sleep and huge amount of caffiene. Emotional and massively engrossing raids...I thought I was not addicted. :D

    I quit bout a year ago lost 4 stone got a new job and a new girlfriend.

    Was it worth it? HELL YEAH! :D Its a buzz like no other for a good few years.
     
  20. tigerhooligan

    tigerhooligan Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm at work at the moment. As soon as I get home I'll try those settings.

    It doesn't really seem like a latency thing. I hope this works as I've just been running everything on ultra. I do have directx11 enabled as well. I guess lag is a bad word to use... it's more of like a pause where everything just freezes for a few seconds then suddenly jumps back to real time.

    I'll update as soon as I get home and try it out. Thanks for the prompt reply!
     
  21. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    Haha. I definitely agree with this statement. It had the same effect on me. College grades plummeted to 50's and I nearly failed everything, but after I quit (or played casually), my social life turned great and my grades skyrocketed to 85's.

    It's very easy to lose track of RL when playing MMO's. They can be quite dangerous to some.

    @tigerhooligan
    I've seen this issue before. It could be that your hard drive is playing "catch-up".
     
  22. tigerhooligan

    tigerhooligan Notebook Enthusiast

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    @Voodooi
    Yeah from what I've read it seems to be the general consensus. Do you know of a program I could run to keep the hard drive up to speed or do I need to install a 7200 rpm hard drive or SSD?
     
  23. Voodooi

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    Firmware updates tend to work for some, but others are forced to RMA it or replace it with a different drive.

    SSD is not required for WoW, but it is nice to have. A friend of mine is in the top US raiding guild and the leader requires their players to have an SSD.

    A 7200 rpm is perfectly fine for WoW. If you're going to switch, just avoid Seagate products since they're one of the main causes of gaming lag spikes.

    Someone in the 3DE Preorder thread had posted software to "adjust" hard drives, but the name escapes me. It did help some, but the problem was still there. Either someone is going to have to chime in with the name of it, or you can dig through the thread (think it was January 2011 posting).
     
  24. tigerhooligan

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    Luckily my laptop was still under the 14 day return policy at best buy. I just took it back and got the g73sw-bst6 model. They told me the bst8 model is on like a 2 month back order and I didn't really care about the 1080p. The bst6 doesn't even show up on their website but I was under the impression it has a 7200 rpm hard drive.

    I'm installing wow now and will see if its better. I hope so.
     
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