G73-BBK (Best Buy Model)

I picked up a G73 from best buy today, it was the last model and it was on clearance so I was able to get it for $975. I'm just wondering if it was supposed to come with the gaming mouse and the carrying case/backpack that I thought it did. The G73 did not come with the box and it did not come with the mouse or carrying case so if someone could let me know if it was supposed to like it would have if it came with the box it would be MUCH apreciated. Please give me a link for some evidence that I could show the sales rep at bestbuy, when I told them they said if I could find something that said it was supposed to come with the mouse and carrying case then I could get a discount. Thanks in advance!

 

that is correct you should not get a gaming mouse or backpack with bestbuy models.

you only get them with the A1 (and A2 )series of the laptops, which is normally much more expensive and have higher specs.

bestbuy laptops is cheap because they , gimp the screen , gfx ,ram and a bit of hardrive space sometimes , and excludes the extra's.

 

I know they "gimp" the G74 GPU but do they do the same with the G73? From all I read it seemed the only thing that was different from other G73 models was the screen resolution and maybe the ram, both of which I was okay with because of the price but because I am still in the 14 day return period I would like to know if the 460m that is in the best buy model is any different then the other 460m's in the other G73's. Thanks for the reply.

 

yes the gtx 460m is gimped to 128bit and also missing a few ROP's.

 

What are ROP's and how much of a performance decrease does that have? I'm thinking about going and getting the G74 but I'm not really looking to MAX out my games on high I just want to have them be playable at a decent FPS. I bought Starcraft 2 and have yet to open it but I would hope that it could run that decently on high and the same with bad company 2. Would it be worth it to go for the G74. I will most likely buy it from best buy because I'm not really looking to spend more then 1200-1300 and as far as I know these are the best deals I could get for the price(correct me if I'm wrong).

 

a g74sx bbk7 "best buy" model runs for $1,199.99 (u.s)

 

Right, I'm just wondering if there is that much of a performance jump in the different GPU's going from the 460m to the 560m.

 

i heard that the 560m is better. but i know that the 560m has 2-gb, and its the 128 bit.

 

Well I have 14 days to return it and go and pickup the G74. If someone could please let me know if it is worth it to go from the 460m to the 560m that would be great. I plan on running battlefield 3 and if the 460m is incapable of doing so it would be greatly appreciated if someone would let me know ahead of time.

 

Also, Is the non-"gimped" 460m going to perform better then the "gimped" 560m that would come with the G74bbk?
I just now saw that newegg has the G53 on sale and I could get that with the non-"gimped" 460m for cheaper then what I got the G73 for. Is the G53 from newegg gimped at all?

 

Afaik nope, the g53sw comes with a full gtx460m.
The g53sx comes with gtx560m but it's gimped.
So if the cheaper newegg model comes with 1,5gb gtx460m in his specs you know that it's the non gimped version, thus the best performer in this range.
And yes although it has 1,5gb of VRAM (that hardly you will use) the full card will always performs better than a gimped 460/560.
You may want to consider however that gimped 560m usually goes with a 900p screen and clocks are higher, thus it overclocks better.
It starts with 775mhz and 900mhz is easily achievable (much like gtx460m, which starts from 665mhz, it has an average oc around 800mhz, so their oc potential is the same).
So at that resolution you'll get a pretty performance.
When it comes to 1080p however the less rops and bandwidth practically puts the gpu on his knees.
I would aim for a g53sw due to his specs, plus portability if you can't find a full g73sw (not gimped).
It's really the best compromise of things plus awesome performance, you will not be disappointed.
Ps: to easy check if the card is gimped or not, look at the gpu VRAM.
1,5gb means full 192bit not gimped gtx460m.
1gb gtx460m means 128bit bus and it's gimped.
As for gtx560m if I'm not mistaken, 2gb and 3gb means a gimped card.

 

Thanks alot, that information really helps. So as a recap just to make sure I have things correct before I go and get a refund:
The G53SW-XN1, with the 460m, will perform better then the gimped 560m G74, even though the G53SW-XN1 has 1080p resolution and the G74 has a 900p resolution?
I just want to make sure I have everything straight before I order the G53 because originally I was looking for a G53 but had to settle for what was convenient.

 

Yep you recapped the points correctly.
G53sw have 1080p and a full gtx460m.

 

560M gimp has 40gb/s bandwidth at stock 460M full has 60gb/s at stock.

Hence why it may not be they perform that much different but the 192bit version will be able to handle 1080p much better, bandwidth intensive games much better, and yield better results when overclocked and you will have more chance of being able to run graphic intensive games later in the year at higher settings.

900P screens are nice but trust me I own one and its not a 1080P screen people think its not far off but when you do the math 1980x1080 vs 1600x900 is 68400 pixels.

 

You only missed a thing, 3gb gtx560 is not a gimped card (its the full one). 1gb and 2gb gtx460/560 are gimped (although I think that 2gb gtx460 does not exist).

 

Yeah you're right since 1,5x2=3 which means 192bit bus.
No the gtx460m sports only 1 or 1,5gb of ram (128bit vs 192).
2gb is gtx560m, I was referring to that, which is 128bit bus (1024x2).

 

Well thanks everybody for your advice, I'm going to return my G73 and order a G53.

 

Really? I just read my post to make sure I didn't recommend this to you.

I personally wouldn't recommend you swapping 192bit for 128bit when it comes to Nvidia. Your are dropping 20gb/s on the bandwidth.

It upto you of course.

 

I thought switching the Gimped gtx460m in the g73 with a 900p screen for the 192bit gt460m in the g53 with 1080p screen was worth it?

 

Maybe I am getting confused from your original post are you swapping your laptop for the G53SX or the SW?

EDIT: My bad that is what comes from talking on two posts at once about similiar models. LOL. Yes go for the G53 192bit it will be a good upgrade.

 

Alright sweet, thanks.

 

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So I don't mean to necro but I also don't see the need in creating another post regarding something similar. I'm about to pull the trigger on buying the G53sw-XN1. The question I have is, because the G53SW-XN1 comes with the 460m, I'm wondering if:
A) Is the GPU upgradeable?
B) Will the 460m be able to run games on high such as bad company 2, starcraft 2 and even battlefield 3? Is the 460m a good GPU?

 

192bit 460M GTX is fine. Dont expect amazing results similiar to a desktop unless you pay double what your planning too.

A. No (this has been attempted and resulted in failure) there is no upgrade that would work that is worth it. i.e 560M is only an overclocked 460M.
B. Yes most def starcraft and BC2 will run fine. Results are unknown how it will run on BF3 but it will work 100%. 460M price vs power at the moment is good.

 

Anything dallers said is right, I just want to add that bfbc2 performance at 1080p/dx11/maxed out/NoAA hovers around 38-45, average 40fps+ when oced. There are situations which boosts the fps in the higher 50's.
As SC2 some fellow users runs it at ultra @ 1080p with outstanding performance, being from 38 to 70+, with average in 50's.
Gtx460m is still a tier 1 gpu card so don't e worried at all..and when games in the future will be demanding, drop the res a bit (1600x900) or lower a few details without bothering too much.
As an example Crysis 2/dx11/high res texture pack/preset Extreme keeps framerates from 38 to 55 at 900p.

 

Alright sweet. 1080p is not big deal for me, I could honestly care less as long as the game looks alright and is running smoothly.