G73JH 6970M upgrade infomation

JW has different CPU on it so i would not flash it to JW.

 

No, its wrong,
Jh and Jw uses same CPU
but Sw uses diffrent CPU.
I got the full backup of my bios its 4mb. and if anything goes wrong, I will have to reprogram the bios chip with 4mb backup.
il be testing it in two more days,
but the gtx 560m card I got is blue , some say it will only work in Eurocom laptop , and many alienware users who bought blue gtx 560m didnt work in their system, and they chenged it to Clevo green card, and it worked, so I should flash the vbios to clevo card.

 

May bad. Forgot about the SW. Well you could try this...it might and it might not work if the mobo has a ati or a Nvidia chip on it. It might only be bios related and might not be that.

 

Nice :d !!!!

 

UPDATE!!!!!
3 day back I got my Dell hd 6970m .
yesterday installed OS.
and then hwinfo ,
Important!!
Behind all the dead Dell hd 6970m the reason is HWINFO reports false info.
here it is:
in hwinfo the temps of my card was 67oC.Then I used an external tool to check the real temps at middle of the heatsink, then it showed me 87oC , I was ! . I cant belive it, tried to 3 times , the temp shown on hwinfo is 20oC less than real. I guess this mite be the reason for deaths of this much cards. the reason why the card doesnt shutdown it self because its reporting a false info to EC . Im not that sure that this can be the cause for its death.
so at this point using an noterbook cooler is the best choice .
up for now Dionysius didnt have problem with hd 6990 because he is using an external cooler + have drilled some holes .

 

The info is not false. My M17 runs 10 c hotter then the G73 did and that had the fans on 100%. Mine died then i removed the heatsink and but it back. It might have been static as i was doing it in my workshop. First GPU died there to


The 6870m works so far but the capacitor i replaced seems to be different on the asus GPU and i get random shutdowns.

Ill just wait until the 7000 series comes out and ill get that for the AW and the 6970 will go into the g73

PS the top temp is higher yes as the heatsink itself removes heat....try to measure the temp on the GPU and not the heatsink.

 

OH , I didnt know that your Dell HD 6970m died because of static.
are you sure that , it died because of that?
because Im scared to keep this dell hd 6970m in my g73 because it may die.
as you said on the 1st post, does dell card have improper connection to the mobo?
up to now how many dell card's have died in G73Jh ?
is it worth keeping my dell card in my G73 ? or sell it?

 

Im just saying what it might be static. It can kill the GPU and the paste can also.

I got the 6970m working in the G73 all the time but the first time i did the swap in my workshop. Room temp was near 15c. Did it on a big desk so it would be easy to place all the parts. The GPU died right after it got load. It might have been the IC7 to as i did heat that up but might have not been enought and that crushed someting under the die as i got vertical lines (broken or bad solder under the core). Second time i did it on my lap on a sofa room temps 23c about. And that worked nicely. The thing that killed the GPU was that i wanted to get the temps even more down so i removed it mode the heatsink in the workshop again. After that no post. I did heat the IC up in a cup of warm water.

Strange part is all the GPU.s i have used IC 7 have died and have had a gray line on the core that looks like it is burned. The 6970 died in my M17x r3 in less then week the paste i used was IC7. It also had the gray line on it. Now after getting the R3 back from repair i did a repaste with MX-2 and it has been OK. Temps for a strange reason are better then before.

 

OMG Please to post this info to first post , many G73 owners who try to upgrade wont kill their VGA if they read about IC Diamond.I think you have found the real reason.
@tilla what thermal paste did you use?


@DH48 this is great info.Im going to repaste with Arctic silver , I think its safe. and i'd say the thermal paste killed your card, because your m17x r3 is running normally with mx-2.
+1 rep for info.

 

I'd either used Shin Etsu or MX-3. I guess the first one.
I wasn't hyped by this ICD.

 

Well the problem could be me aswell I did warm it up but still all the pastes i have used in the past 10 years on desktops and notebooks IC7 is the hardest to clean and really thik. Strange but sad is that all the GPU i used the IC7 on haved died in the end. It might have been low room temperature or i might have rushed to screw the heatsink on...all i know is i will be keeping away from IC7 for a while

My first IC7 repaste on the G73 lasted a good 5 moths after that started the 6970m saga.

 

THanks for info, Il also be in the safe side and avoid IC Diamond.

I think the reason why G73 lasted that long because the asus hd 5870m gpu has a cover over it like celvo hd 6970m/6990m . thats why ,until now we have not heard a single clevo card diying.So for dell/eurocom we have to use a small amount of thermal paste, then it may not kill our gpu.

 

@DH48 , I sold my Dell HD 6970m
but I took a video of it before removing it from Asus G73.
Here it is: Asus G73Jh with Dell HD 6970M

 

Im gone keep the 6870m in it with the 100% fan speed. I finaly got the right capacitor and no more randoms shutdowns....so far.

My GF need a new notebook anyway so she well be using the G73. She does not mind the fans. Better then the 10" HP notebook she had.

 

You have done the correct thing.
hd 6870 runs like a beast in Asus g73, and it wont be killed by g73 .
the best choice if your upgrading your Asus G73 is Clevo cards.

 

@DH48
I've found a fan control for MSI barebones here.
This works for my X7811 like a charm. It manipulates the right EC registers.
I have asked the author about support for G73 and he would look at it. But he needs the EC binary file described here.
My G73 is still disassembled.
Thx

 

By you wording, you mean you have removed the right capacitor or modified?

 

Would be happy to send it but im in the UK. Will be back home in 2 weeks. But good find @tilla this might solve our fan problem rep for find

@Hackness. I just looked at the board of the 5870m and 6870m. I cut the wrong capasitor(Should be capasitor as it is marked with a C. R is resistor) off ans just solderd it on to the 6870m but as the asus has no markings next to the components the first ones were wrong. Then is used a tester to find the right ones. I just used the same parts off of the 5870m.


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@tilla good job +1 rep .
it will help all Dell/Eurocom card users.
and im sorry that I cant dump that file because I sold my Dell hd 6970m recently, so atm I dont have a vga card on my G73, so I guess DH48 may help you.

@DH48
Did you get any random shutdowns with hd 6870m on your G73 ?

thanks

 

a bit offtopic but, the hd 7000M is launched

not exact numbers on prices, though my approximate estimate is ~$600 for HD 7970M and it looks more promising that GTX 675M that is costs $150 more

 

How you think? can be 7970M used in our G73JH ?
Who will try it ?

 

Yes It will work, because it works on M15x and all alienware laptop, and as we know Asus g73 supports ati cards, so most probably it will work.

 

Someone is willing to give it a try? (G73 Jh with HD7970M)
Still playing with thoughts to upgrade or to get the R4.

 

you should upgrade, and you will be able to survive for more than 2 years.
will run cooler than all other cards as well, if your trying to go with r4 I'd say its a total waste. because you have to spend more than 900$ after selling your g73 to buy it, you can simply buy an hd 7970m for 500$ and upgrade it .

on the side note: One of my friend has upgraded his Asus G73Sw from gtx 460m to gtx 560m , but it was a asus card from an g53.

 

The 7970M seems to be a monster, but are you sure that it is compatible with the G73JH? I also saw that it needs the double amount of power oO

 

no way man, didn't you read everything about it? it consumes less amount of power than a 6990m and run's cooler than a hd 5870m.
so this will be a great upgrade, and bricking stories are less for this card.
edit : here is a picture proof:

 

Thx for your reply.
But first im not going to sell my G73 anyway and second i need a 1080p screen (i5 Version)

With an AW i would have longer battery lifetime, new quad (+3x performance), new two years guarantee and still no WiHD >.<

 

There is a good chance that the 7970m is compatible with the G73jh, but it might be compatible with only the Clevo version if the EC protocol remains unchanged from the 6970M.

As far as consumption, the 7970M is starting to look more like a 75w card given pau1ow's experience when he installed a 7970m in his MSi system (MSi 16f2, which is a GT683 barebone):

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/659226-7970m-heatsink-modification-6.html#post8491347

 

Yeah sounds good. I have no heat issues with my 5870M.
But ive got one problem. The last repairguy broke my screwheads that i cannot turn. Three of them are broken...
And i forgot. I need a new power supply. So its gc, display and power supply.

Sry im Out.

Theres a special offer in Germany where the AW with 3820QM and HD 7970M costs around 1800€. Wish ya all good luck!

for G73Jh the GPU is 500€ display 120€ PSU is 100€ and BD-ROM is 80€ is a sum of 800€ and im still on Dualcore. Now i've got switching GPU and a good CPU which can feed the GPU with more information than the Core i5 520M ever could.

 

Hey Guys Check This Out...

Alienware M17xR3 6990m Running on G73JH with Great Temps Under Load.

I also did a Red LED Mod under the screen and on the button panel.

 

Man this is great!!!! your seriously rep'ed.
how did you do the red led mod?
and your paste jobs doesn't look good , but how is your temps that low ? ambient temp ?
what game were you running when you took a picture of the temps ?
can you run furmark for 5 min and report the temps ?
thanks mate

 

Ambient Temp is only 59c. And its not a paste job I doubled up on the thermal pads for the Ram Chips. Used Kapton tape to protect the other components from the heat sink. I also used Arctic Silver Ceramic just to test it, and it seems to be running good, but will be upgrading to ic diamond 7. I also modded the posts and used new screws to hold heatsink in place. The red led mod is my specialty did it by desoldering each led and replacing them with red ones. Also cleared out bottom bezel under the screen. I used rubbing alcohol to remove the blue tint. I replaced the entire case with the sw case. It also has the upgraded touchpad. In order to do the full 5 minute burn-in test, I need to further mod. However I was able to do a 2 hour crysis 2 gaming session just fine. Gaming works perfectly but furmark is a little too much right now. Its either that or my power supply isnt good enough.

I will keep updating as i progress with furmark



- The boneyard lol.

 

omg you have many cases ,
and how did you mod the palmrest to fin in the pch ?
the place where the pch of sw and jh is different ?

 

Well thats hard to explain I had to do a lot of cutting and fitting, maybe one day I'll make a tutorial on how I fit the sw case.

 

ConXept how was the fan control with the dell card?

 

yep... i'm very interested with this info too !

(but we already know the EC on G73 tells dell cards to run @full about 50% if i understood correctly the thread.... hope this won't be the same with the 7xxxm cards... answer in a very few days...)

 

Take your time and be very careful. Do it right the first time and you'll get the results you're looking for.

 

Thnks cheeseman... a big part of modding is already done... the motherboard support, the heatsink modded for my 6970m i already have (and oc@ 850/975 btw ), my PSU from dell modded (240w), the 213 Bios is modded also !

note : My actual vantage high score with a 920xm @4x3.2 and the 6970m @850/975 is above 15k points... hope I will reach 20k new card inside

 

I'm either putting a 6970m or a 6990m. I have found a 6990m for I think it's a clevo model (the seller hasn't replied yet). My question is will the 6990m run as well as the 6970m. Will the fans work properly (like the clevo 6970m and unlike the Dell card)

Thanks guys. I did have a look through the thread and didn't find my answer.

 

yes all clevo card's in asus g73jh has fan control ,
but make sure you upgrade the powersupply , because you could expect shutdowns .
death rate of hd 6990 is less than 6970m
so it should last long , or you should spend a bit more $$ to get a way more powerful one , like hd 7970m.

 

I do need a new ps. I even have a 920xm in mine at 95w. I was aware that the 7970m was confirmed to work yet. I may grab one if they do. Have they been tested? Will the same heat sink work

Edit: the 6990m does come with a spreader. It is the same one that was used in the clevo machine it was from. Will this be compatible with my heat sink? I have heard a few stories of wrong screw sizes

Edit2: as it turns out the 7970m is too expensive for me. I don't have much money at the moment and as my 5870m died I need a new card asap. I'll go with the 6990m. My only question is about the screws.

 

It was confirmed by Dionysius that the HD 6990M works in the G73JH. The above quote should also apply to the HD 6990M. Just use the ASUS screws instead.

 

If the Asus screws are too big and the Asus backplate is too big how will I use the Asus screws? I heard of someone drilling the holes out. I don't want to do this.

 

I used the stock X plate which came with the dell hd 6970m for hd 6970 + with asus heatsink , all fitted perfectly , and its was fully working.

 

The diameter of the x-plate nuts is a bit wider than the stock (Clevo) cards/srews.
I described it here.

Sry to hear, that the Dell 7970m doesn't work as it should till now.
I bet, a Clevo one would do it.
Good luck.

 

Is there any technique involved in removing the heat pipes from the 5870 heatsink and attaching it to the M17x R3 heatsink? How fragile are the pieces?

 

Don't know if this is against rules (admins, please delete if it is)

*Redacted*

 

You may want to post that in the NBR Marketplace

 

Removed the against the rules part, but as Heihachi said, you'll want to post that in the marketplace, make sure to read the rules specific to the marketplace as well before posting. You meet the min requirements to be allowed to sell in the marketplace, so if you fill in the form, you're good to go.

If you are unsure about something, you can always pm a moderator, any of us will gladly answer your questions.

 

Would be interesting to hear from people like ConXept their long-time experience with the 69xxM GPUs. Nobody got a 78xx/79xx GPU working yet, but If I see it correctly then the 6970/6990M is faster than a 7870M.

Is there any easy way btw to upgrade the stock cooler? Most of the described ways here look quite complex.