G73JH 6970M upgrade infomation

i'm assuming "itselg" means it's self?

"Warning the Dell GPU might end up killing itselg as some pins seem to control the fan that are not use on the g73"

if my my original card is bad how i would know the 6970 is bad and not the motherboard? if it is an issue with those pins will it die immediately?

 

Something to this day I can't figure out with my Clevo 6970m, even after I flashed the Dell vbios, I still can't get audio over HDMI to work. I have tried everything it seems to get it to function, but I can't figure it out. Tried a clean install, certain drivers, modded drivers, modded vbioses all flashed outside of windows and all kinds of other tweaks and nothing.

 

That's due to the HDCP signing required by the HDMI standard. If there is any mismatch at the firmware or driver level then it will cut the audio.

 

So how does one go about fixing that? Assuming it is anyways...?

 

You don't really.

 

The only work around I've figured out is plugging my speakers below my HDTV into my laptop's audio out, but I would have thought there would be a work around for the audio over HDMI and the extra monitor that doesn't actually exist in the CCC.

Seems some others here have posted success with getting audio over HDMI to work, but nothing I have read works for me, or maybe I'm just not doing something right. I'm rather tech savvy, but putting a gpu in a laptop that is not officially supported, with a different vbios that what it shipped with, etc etc, is something new to me.

 

The thing is the HDCP protection was designed to not work after fiddling, it's specifically designed to break easily.

 

got my alienware/dell HD6970m working but, on external monitor only. would flashing the modded bios help or does the vbios need modding?

Stock video card posts to internal and or external screen.

 

I see no mention of that in the op, system bios is the safest to test. Can you recover a bricked card?

 

Hi guys,

I have a Asus G73JH-TZ091V with a defective ATI 5870.
Now i search for compatible cards. The variety of cards in Germany is not so big. So i found:

AMD HD 8970M 4GB M290X GDDR5 for Clevo P150EM P170EM Alienware M17xR5 M18xR2 | eBay

NEW GENUINE ALIENWARE M17X R2 GRAPHIC CARD ATI RADEON HD 5870M 1GB RV546 0RV546 | eBay

GENUINE ALIENWARE M17X R3 M18X GRAPHIC CARD ATI RADEON HD 6990M 2GB MXM RDRGR | eBay

Wich card can i use?

 

For 6xxx series cards the OP answers that.

 

Hello
Can someone do this same mod, with a different video card? Like Alienware M17x M15x ATI Radeon HD 5870? I only ask because the ATI HD 5870, are cheaper on ebay, than the original asus video card. and my asus has a dead video card?

 

The only difference is the layout between the two and they are actually very close.

The original card would be a much simpler option.

 

night everyone, btw i need some advice, i have ASUS G73SW and GTX460M on it. and i've been thinking of for upgrading my gpu to the lastest model, like GTX 970M, or at leat 870M, but i didn't know if it would fit my chasis or not, anyone have advice for this? or maybe the lastest model possible to upgrade is just 770M? i'm interested on this model " http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-GeFor...item3ced3e125a " , is there anyone had successfull upgrade with newer gpu than 770M? like 8xx series or 9xx series? thanks

 

Your link is shortened with "..." so is broken.

I did some more searching and found:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...m/746050-g73jh-gpu-770m-upgrade-succcess.html

I would avoid the 8 and other 7 series GPUs as they can be finicky with non optimus systems, the 970M is perhaps worth a try but it is quite an investment.

 

Imo the 460GTX of the G73SW was soldered on the mainboard, so no option for an upgrade.


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So it is, sorry about that. I thought I had checked but it must have been pictures of the jh I had found.

 

Oh c'mon guys. Everyone knows that g73sw can be upgraded same way as g73jh. I have g73sw with 680m from dell for over 2 years now.

 

I really should trust myself more, it's the 560M G74 that's soldered.

 

ASUS believed that it's not practical to upgrade graphics on notebooks as people tend to buy the latest and greatest at the time of shopping. In addition, the saving of using BGA and waive the socket can provide savings in production costs.
Computer products' value depreciate so much at such short amount of time, yet new products improve much more at the same time.

 

Oh, yes. Sry for that false info.

 

Hello all, my 5870 finally died and I installed 6970m (Sapphire ) with proper mods. All seems to work fine except performance, when I run 3DMark11 I seem to get half the Graphics score everyone else is getting. Any ideas as to what could be bogging the card down. I am running latest AMD CCC from their website, temps never go above 73c, I am also running a 940xm.

My 3Dmark 11 Graphics score 1700 Averaging around 7-12fps in most tests

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Updated to reflect it's a Sapphire Card

 

Post up pictures of the graph produced by MSI afterburner over time showing clocks and usage levels.

 

Will try and get it posted tonight...thanks

 

I ran this log while running 3D Mark 11. I noticed that the core clock speed never exceeded 400mhz. I noticed when I took the screenshot of the desktop at idle afterwards there is on spike of 680mhz.

Gui by Hydren posted May 12, 2015 at 4:15 AM

Log1-3 by Hydren posted May 12, 2015 at 4:15 AM

Log1-4 by Hydren posted May 12, 2015 at 4:16 AM

Log1-2 by Hydren posted May 12, 2015 at 4:15 AM

Log1-1 by Hydren posted May 12, 2015 at 4:15 AM

 

What about GPUZ?

 

After seeing the log results I was leaning towards a clock state / flag issue in the vbios. I opened in RBE and found the clock state that is active at 400mhz and the flag was labeled uknown. I changed the value to 680mhz to match high performance flag. I ran 3d mark 11 and ran half way through and pc shut off, suspecting I am now exceeding 180w power supply. Rebooted lowered processor multi. and ran a full 3d mark 11 test with a 3100 graphics score. Now the issue is what the hell is going on with these clock states / Flags. I don't recall anyone having to do this in their g73 when upgrading to 6970m.

thoughts?

 

Do you have a power meter to measure the actual power drain from the transformer?

 

It certainly looks like a clock state issue, what vbios is on the card? It's likely causing an issue. Also as Kevin mentions a wall meter should help judge the consumption. Remember to take power supply losses from the wall draw to get system draw.

 

Watt meter showed 175watts full load. I switched to 230watt supply just incase. It still shuts off randomly when running 3D Mark 11, I know its not a heat issue as the temp never exceed 74c on GPU or CPU. On the bios front I figured out how to get it to run stock clocks 680mhz. The problem is I cant overclock, if I bump to say 750 and reflash. AfterBurner and GPU-Z show that max is 750 but looking at logs it never goes past 680 subsequent benchmarks also same score. This is a Sapphire card and currently running a modded version of the original bios. I also tried the two bios from here http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?did=1002-6720-174B-E188

Thinking about force flashing a Dell vbios.....thoughts

 

If the card works too hard in a low power state it can cause issues, you really need the card to be in the high performance state.

 

I there something else that can limit the card maybe something in registry?

 

How can I force it into a high power state?

 

I think you need a different vbios.

 

Perhaps the BIOS/EC is also designed to draw power within controlled range so even if you have a larger power adapter which won't still power the system fully.

 

I have not seen reports like this from others and have seen cards behave that way before though.

 

Ok I figured it out, I flashed a Dell bios on the card and now my power states work correctly and I am able to overclock on the fly with AfterBurner. The powering down issue is directly related to the Ram frequency. If I leave it at the stock 900mhz it powers down 3 out of 4 times, I dropped it down to 800mhz and started working my way back up. I manged to get back to 875mhz and now no power downs. I am pushing the GPU to 820mhz and stable. I also tried going way high with the ram in hopes that it just did not like the 900 and it shuts off almost the instance I start running 3D Mark 11.
don't understand why this card will not run stock ram clocks. see attached benchmark, not a bad score for having lower ram clocks.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9819163

 

Glad that it is mostly working. Could be some strange interference issues causing noise on the memory bus. Did you cool all the VRMs around the card?

 

I would suspect that dell vbios has timings for different vram chips than ones you have on your 6970m. Remember when I had troubles with my 680m from dell on asus g73sw and had to lower vram clocks 300-400mhz under stock to get card perform without crashes/reboots. Eventualy I found changing just one byte of code was enough to fix problem.
Though it took me almost a year to figure it out

 

True the different brands used on different cards will have different recommended timings.

 

Especially when interbreed with asus remembered now that card showed 1gb vram instead of 2gb that card has. Figured that one to after a year of scratching my head

 

Yes AMD cards do have the memory amount stored in the bios so if you flash the wrong one it would show less. More and it would just crash over and over.

 

Well it looks like I am going to do it all over again, I picked up a Clevo 7970 V1.2 enduro. Going to try and get it installed in the next few days. I will let you guys know how it goes, I am hoping will will be less of a pain then the 6970. I need a bios that has enduro off, any one have it?

 

It should be over at tech inferno somewhere.