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    G73JH LCD 1920x1080 quality? Contrast ratio?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Kyle, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    How is the G73JH LCD 1920x1080 quality? Contrast ratio? Are the blacks really black?
     
  2. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    One of the better LCD panels I've seen for contrasts. The gloss allows for some good black levels.
     
  3. johnnobts

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    I just upgraded to a 1920x1080p LG matte screen, looks great.
     
  4. kurtcocaine

    kurtcocaine Notebook Evangelist

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    contrast ratio ~ 1000:1
    Black levels: 0.17 cd/m²

    more info here


    please post comparison pics if possible
     
  5. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    picture or fake :p
     
  6. ericdawg

    ericdawg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hmm... how do you do that? How much? Can you do that with all laptops or just the ones you can find a screen for (I think I answered my own question).

    I hate the stupid glossy screeens. I get the whole pretty picture thang.. but I hate glare. :eek:
     
  7. adamski07

    adamski07 Notebook Consultant

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    there are few people who upgraded to LG 1920x1080 matte and they all said that it looks good and a little better from the Hannstar. They said contrast ratio is better too than the Hannstar. I'll receive mine this week and I'll find out if that is true. :)
     
  8. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    Please take quality picture before and after the replacement ;)

    (of the installation and also both screen working for comparison)
     
  9. adamski07

    adamski07 Notebook Consultant

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    I will, but the thing is I will replace an AUO 1600x900 not a Hannstar because I got the BB version of G73.
     
  10. johnnobts

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    I already replaced the screen, so can't do a before shot. it was a best buy glossy 1600x900 screen, wil have to look up model number later. I assumed I was being shipped a glossy screen, but I went back and read their listing, they ship glossy or matte, depending whichever they have in stock. But I bet you can call them or email and ask for a specific type.
     
  11. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    I often don't hear of matte panels having superior contrast/black levels to a glossy. Also, the 1080p Hannstar is one of the best I've seen. Beating it would be quite a performance (at a reasonable price of course).
     
  12. Ruckus

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    The G73jh screen tested with is from the G73jh-A1 Hannstar. So yep, I don't believe a word for even a micro-second that the LG or AOU being better. As you can see, the Hannstar absolutely destroys all competition when it comes to contrast. The Dell Precision is the same RGB display used in the Alienware m17x R2 which arguably has the best screen on a "gaming" laptop. As you can see even for color accuracy, the G73jh is about the same category as the Apple upgraded screen. Say what you want about Apple, but MacBook Pro with upgraded screens have always been known for the screens and some used for on the go designers who depend on color accuracy etc.

    Clevo has also chosen the Hannstar as their LED display of choice for their 17" gaming machines which like X7200 can cost up to $6,000. There is no doubt, a very good reason why Clevo chose the Hannstar to be used in their best, most powerful machines ever made.

    One thing to note, from reviews from both NotebookReview and Anandtech who both do measurements of the screens, the Hannstar brightness is not the highest. My guess, AOU is very bright, ultra bright LCD's used by companies like HP to give the allusion of quality. Just like music, the everyday person believe louder sounds better when in fact music with dynamics is better. Same for screens likely, brighter must mean better, when in reality that is not true. So regardless of personal preference, personally believe should go with the measurements to determine the quality of a LCD. But as a gamer, and you just want a really bright screen, then go with that one. If you want one where black is really black with high color accuracy, the Hannstar would be the best choice.

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    1000 : 1 for our G73. Isn't too low or just good enough for a laptop?
     
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    So which replacement one you got? LG? Did you see big difference from it?
     
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    What model number?
     
  16. Ruckus

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    Overall, from these measurements, the Hannstar for G73 is more than good enough for a laptop. It's unheard of, this level of quality has never been seen in 17" notebook under $2,000. The contrast is uncontested, black is truly black and white is white. The color accuracy is very admirable and very close to being of pro quality. Only a RGB LED or IPS would be better which increases price of notebook to close to $2,500-3,300 range.
     
  17. kurtcocaine

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    ^ this 1000:1 is the actual contrast, not the BS "dynamic" contrast that is marketed for tvs and lcds
     
  18. Keith

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    I upgraded my BB G73 to a aftermarket 1920x1080 panel. I too received the LG matte screen. I ended up removing it and going back to the original panel. Not because there was anything wrong with the LG, it looked fantastic. I just have this really strong preference to glossy.

    I've attached a picture of the back of the LCD that shows all of the info about it, for those that are interested.

    The most "fun" part about putting the LG in was the fact that the connector on the back of the LCD is on the opposite side of where the connector is on the original stock screen. I had to reroute the video cable to the other side of the laptop to get it connected.

    Part of the barcode is covered up with a "compatible" sticker, so not sure if this will be of any benefit to anyone or not.
     

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  19. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    How/why are people upgrading to an LG screen?
    Does the G73JH come with a Hannstar 1920x1080 screen, and people are swappng that on their own to 1920x1080? Or is an Asus tech ddoing it for them?

    1000:1 is indeed unheard of in laptop screens.

    PS: Thanks kurtcocaine and Ruckus for the concrete data :)
     
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    Sorry, I just posted a separate question and maybe it should have been in this thread. Does the jh/jw use LED backlighting? No mercury warning thread? I'm asking because a recent Anandtech review for a Clevo x7200 implies the G73 also uses florescent lighting.

    Having just ordered a jw, I'll return it if it's florescent...

    It's PHENOMENAL for a notebook. The 100-300 range is probably almost universal for notebooks.

    Like Ruckus said, the only things you could do to improve it would be an IPS panel (which AFAIK no notebook uses) or 3-color LED backlighting (which hardly anything uses). The panel itself is close to as good as it gets for a notebook, and is literally multiple times better than anything below $1000.
     
  21. Chastity

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    The panel is a LED backlit unit.
     
  22. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    1. HP 8740w has a "dreamcolor" IPS 1920x1200 screen option :D

    2. G73jh costs less than $1000?????? Where????????
     
  23. Wolfpup

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    Thanks! :) Darned article confusing me :lol:

    Wow! Did not know such a thing existed. So probably it has the best display of any notebook? If only it had Geforce options (though I suppose as long as you can update drivers the Quadros would be okay.)

    Well, I sort of picked $1000 semi randomly since I think Dell's Studio XPS 16 is supposed to be pretty high quality (it's definetly much better than the norm) and there are some other Dell models that aren't much more than $1000 and can be configured with high quality screens I guess, so I just semi-randomly picked that number.

    At any rate, the G73's panel is among the absolute best. I mean there might be what, a couple or a handful that are better still, but hundreds of notebooks that are worse. (And MUCH worse.)

    Probably that everything uses those "dynamic" contrast ratios confuses people, since by that 1000:1 sounds bad, except of course in reality it's absolutely amazing by notebook standards :) It's competing with stuff that's like 230:1 or whatever.
     
  24. Ruckus

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    That notebook costs around $3,300 with that display. Also FirePro is the best card available for laptop workstation GPU. Nvidia doesn't have a Quadro equivalent yet, probably a 480M variant later in the future. Seems Nvidia wants to use GF100 still for Quadro, so unlikely to be a 460M/470M variant.
    - There was a thread on NBR that showed that FirePro is the best for the $$. The newly released Fermi Quadro costs $5,000 while a FirePro a mere $1,500 gets 85% performance of the Quadro and actually beats the Quadro for real time rendering. For less than one Quadro, can get two FirePro for a 12 screen awesomeness. Yes, TWELVE. And then, with two FirePro stomp the $5,000 FERMI Quadro with money left over.

    But for design work, the FirePro EyeFinity is quite amazing.


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  25. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    Thats what I gather :)
    Check out the screenshots in
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/notebook-news-reviews/503121-hp-8740w-review-full-metal-jacket.html

    Unfortunately, I have not been able to find it in Europe in sub 3000 euro range. :(



    TBH, todays screens contrast ratios for $1000 laptops are more like 400:1
     
  26. Ruckus

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    Yep. But really for this thread, the Hannstar on the G73jh, W870CU and the X7200 is the best LED LCD available for contrast with very good color accuracy. That's all the OP needs to know. He wanted to know about contrast, the G73's Hannstar is uncontested, no other LED LCD comes close.
     
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    They've got a few. Best right now is:
    NVIDIA Quadro 5000M